(Closed) Was this racist? I dont think so but I could be wrong.

posted 4 years ago in The Lounge
Post # 3
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3260 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@TexasSpringBride:  The only thing I’d say you could have done to be more racially sensitive would be to have offered to find someone to translate.  But no, pointing out that you only speak English is not racist.  Obviously, if they think it’s appropriate, or safe, to let their guest be drunk and disorderly in the pool, they don’t have much of a grasp of reality.  It sounds like you ran into some very difficult people who happen to speak Spanish.  From what you’ve written above, I would not describe anything you said as a racial slur.

Post # 4
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

I don’t think asking someone to communicate with you in a language you speak that happens to be the primary language for the country can be considered racist. I assume that the resident signed documents in English when she bought her condo, therefore one of the party spoke English well enough to communicate with you.

Post # 5
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11760 posts
Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

Culturally insensitive maybe but not a racial slur.  In this situation, I would say it would be up to you to find the translater, not the resident.  At the end of the day though they were just being difficult assholes.

Post # 6
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

Ugh, they make a bad name for people who truly have difficulty with English. No, you are not a racist. Yes, they are spanish speaking, english speaking a**holes.

Post # 8
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

@TexasSpringBride: From your description, it seems that they were clearly not following the rules of the community. Asking someone to speak in English because you do not speak Spanish does not mean that you feel your race is superior to theirs; it means that you wanted to communicate with them regarding the issue, but could not. I would just explain to your company that this is how you respond to this particular situation (removing a disorderly resident or guest), every time.

Post # 9
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@TexasSpringBride:  Yeah so they’re just jerks.  Unpleasant people exist everywhere, and in every language, and culture.  What can you do?

Post # 10
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

 @MrsWBS:  In this situation, I would say it would be up to you to find the translater, not the resident.

 In many, many settings I’d agree with you (hospital, court, polling place, etc.) but here, the residents were breaking rules that they had acknowledged and agreed to when signing the contract to buy the condo. That is, the responsibility lay with them to follow rules they had already acknowledged. Why should the condo association bear the obligation to explain the rules to them again?

To speak to the OP’s question, no, I don’t think this was racist behavior, and I don’t think it was culturally intolerant, either. Cultural intolerance, to me, would be targeting and banning particular activities strongly associated with particular cultures (like, say, banning the use of small oil lamps on Diwali). Enforcing a ban on the consumption of alcohol by the pool does not target a practice specific to certain cultures.

Post # 11
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

while I don’t agree that it would have been their responsibility to find a translator, I can’t see one single racist thing that occurred in this entire story. And I tried too, lol. Take heart. These people sound like jerks. 

Post # 12
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778 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

I don’t think you did anything wrong. There’s probably a way to phrase the translator bit more politely (not that I think what you said was inherently rude) but based on how you’ve described these folks, no matter what you said they were going to fall back on the racist argument to get their way.

 

Post # 13
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4375 posts
Honey bee

You’re not a racist. These people were trying to take advantage of the situation by using race, as evidenced by what the police officer overheard about the mom telling the daughter to not speak English even though she could. They are the assholes. 

Post # 14
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3697 posts
Sugar bee

In this context, your request was not racist.

However, unfortunately people do frequently use “speak English, you’re in America!” in racist ways when they hear other languages spoken and, equally unfortunately, sometimes people develop a knee-jerk reaction to it. It’s still wrong of them to do so – I’m just saying I can understand how it might have played out that way.

Post # 15
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

No part of your behavior was inappropriate.  You had a drunken fool by the water, who chose not to abide by the condo rules.  He was asked to leave the area, and refused.  His friend also refused to abide by the rules that were posted and signed by her.  Rather than allowing the situation to escalate further, you called the police.  That’s exactly what you should have done. 

It wasn’t “culturally insensitive” to say that you don’t speak Spanish, particularly when all parties involved have been publicly seen speaking fluent English.  Luckily, your maintenance guy was there to witness what happened, and the police report will back your side of things.  They’re just being jerks and trying to pull the race card to make you look bad.

Post # 16
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

Not at all racist. How in the world are you supposed to communicate if you can’t speak the same language?

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