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    Miss Chocolate    July 24, 2010   Texas... Married in California

    Hey there!

    How is everyone doing with the book?! I have to say, I finished it pretty quickly! I just couldn't stop reading :]

    Let me know where you are all at and we'll go from there!!

    Happy Wednesday!

     
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    angela2011bride    March 19, 2011  

    I'm finished as well! :)

     
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    tbk041710    04-17-10   Augusta, GA

    I also finished.  I couldn't stop either!

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    I finished

     
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    Miss Chocolate    July 24, 2010   Texas... Married in California

    Anybody else? Still working on it?

    <3

     
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    RoddyBride09    September 5, 2009   Bethlehem, PA

    I didn't know you were doing this reading but I was actually reading the book as well. Saturday I was at the half-way point but ended up finishing the book. I just couldn't stop. I love NS books :)

    Now my question to you. Did any of you cry?

     
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    OctoberBee    October 9, 2010  

    I read this book last night! Yes, the whole book! Being sick doesn't help my ability to sleep, so I decided that reading would help. Plus, I wanted to read the book before seeing the movie (although, I usually tend to like the book more when I do that).

    And, I'm not going to lie... I cried during one part of the book :).

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    Oh yes, I cried!  I cried when he sold the coin collection. 

     
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    angela2011bride    March 19, 2011  

    I cried through so much of it!

    Is any one ready to fully discuss it?  There weren't many check ins, but @Miss Chocolate, what do you think?  There's so many points I'd love to get your thoughts on!

     
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    Miss Chocolate    July 24, 2010   Texas... Married in California

    @Roddy- I absolutely cried!!! There were a lot of parts that were sad :[

    @Angela- I'm definitely ready to discuss the rest of the book if everyone else is!! Sounds like we're all done reading it :] I'll start!

    There were so many things happening in this book! I kept a notepad with me so I could make sure to bring them up!

    *Knowing what we know now... It broke my heart to understand John and his fathers relationship. How different they both were but for what reason. Do you think that if John would have known that his father was autistic when he was growing up, he would have treated him differently?

    *I haven't seen the movie yet, but did anyone else picture the characters to be exactly what the actors look like? I had a hard time getting their faces out of my head, so I just ended up going with it. Otherwise I think I would have had an easier time visualizing them myself.

    *In Ch. 5- John had made dinner for him and his dad. Remember how his dad got all dressed up for that? Do you think maybe in his mind, it was a big deal for his son to be making dinner, so he felt like he needed to dress up because it was a special occasion for him?

    *I thought that Randy was going to play a bigger role in the book, but I'm glad that he sort of dwindled out of the plot. Did anyone else think that maybe he was going to stick around? Did you think that Savannah married him?

    *Did anyone else find Savannah too good to be true? Was she annoying for you? Was her optimism overbearing or too much?

    *I found it funny that Susan was threatened by John. Do you think Savannah's housemates felt the same way? Do you think maybe Tim did as well?

    *When Savannah gave John the book on Aspergers syndrome, do you think you would have reacted the same way John did? I know I would have. I would have been offended. I think he handled it the way that anyone else would have... Did you think Savannah was over-stepping her grounds even though she was just trying to help?

    Let's start there... I know that's a lot! Sorry, ladies!! I will slow down on the next one ;]

     
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    Candy_Nee    May 1, 2010   Raleigh, NC

    Ahhh!!!  I'm a horrible book club member!  I totally forgot to go out and buy the book. I thought I had it, and then I realized I didn't and then forgot to buy it!

    Since it looks like everyone's about finished, should I start coming up with potential books for March? 

     
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    Miss Chocolate    July 24, 2010   Texas... Married in California

    @Candy- I laughed out loud at your post!! You're too funny ;] Yeah, go for it!! Are you hosting March?! I can't remember who said they wanted to host... I'll go back and look through the posts!! But yeah, start coming up with March ideas! We need a genre and then we can go from there ;]

     
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    Miss Chocolate    July 24, 2010   Texas... Married in California

    It IS you!!! @Candy- I'll be looking for your polls ;] Let me know if you need any help!

     
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    angela2011bride    March 19, 2011  

    I think John defnitely would've treated his father differently!

    Savannah's character was annoying!  She was too good, too nice, just too much. 

    Where you surprised to find out that Tim was who Savannah married? 

    What about the fact that John continued to re-up knowing he didn't have Savannah to go home to?

     

     
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    Miss Chocolate    July 24, 2010   Texas... Married in California

    @Angela- I have to admit, when I find out it was Tim, I wasn't really all that surprised. I figured it would be either Tim or Randy. I was hoping more for Tim...

    John re-uping... was so sad. Why didn't John and Savannah just get married while he was in the army?! I think he re-upped knowing that he would never have Savannah again.

     
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    RoddyBride09    September 5, 2009   Bethlehem, PA

    @Miss Chocolate - I definitely cried but only when Savannah broke up with him in the letter. I think I was sad because she didn't do it in person. He was out at war, risking his life and I think when something like that happens it can really tear a person up. She was his support system while he was out there.

    So here are my thoughts:

    #1 - I do believe John would have treated his dad differently had he known sooner. I don't think it would have been a sympathy relationship but he may have been able to understand his dad more and maybe have a closer bond with him.

    #2 - Haven't seen the movie yet either. Can't wait!

    #3 - Somehow this is a tough question for me. I'd like to say yes, but there is something else that tells me no. I'll get back to you on that one, lol.

    #4 - I definitely thought he was going to stick around but I am glad he didn't. When I saw that she was married, I had a slight feeling it was going to be him because of that small time where she got to know Randy personally but it didn't take long for me to start thinking about Tim.

    #5 - I didn't think she was too good to be true, I have seen people like this. I think the only annoying part was when he was at UNC visiting her. I just wanted to shake her to wake up. I am not sure if I ever got the feeling whether she thought she was truly wrong or not.

    #6 - I think the housemates reactions are pretty typical towards an "outsider". Tim probably felt the same way but he was a less judging character. I am sure he just didn't want to pick up the pieces had John been a real jerk.

    #7 - I know Savannah was just trying to help but it did feel like she was overstepping her grounds by the way she approached it. It is hard for someone to point out the flaws in a close relative without offending someone. I see that now with my FIL. He is a complete and udder mess and my hubby knows it, but somethings I choose not to say because I don't want to overstep my grounds, especially when you can't change someone. If he wants to talk about it I do with no problems. I am his rock for sure.

     
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    Rosie Girl    September 18, 2010   Montana

    Ok, I totally suck! missed first review, but I'll chime in now! :)

    I cried. I really didn't see that ending coming! I was so angry that John re-upped. I was really pissed that Savannah didn't just marry him anyways, even though he was in the Army.

    I haven't seen the movie yet, and I think I want to, but I'm not sure! Since I know how sad it ends I don't know if I want to!!!!

     
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    angela2011bride    March 19, 2011  

    @Roddy - I totally agree with the point of how Savannah acted when he visited her at school.  At the same time though, I don't blame her.  I've been in a "military relationship" previously and I know exactly how she feels.  It makes sense to want to soak up all that time with the person who's about to leave and spend every last second with them since you won't have that time once they are gone.  But, you aren't thinking sensibly in the situation.  The EASIEST thing to do while you're in Savannah's shoes is pick fights, stay out late, not come home, keep yourself busy with school, work, activities, whatever.  Be mad at them when they leave so it doesn't hurt as bad once they go.  It's stupid, but it's life.  It ends up hurting even more though, because you beat yourself up that the last days you spent with your honey were days being upset.  But in the moment, THAT'S what makes sense to you.

     
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    angela2011bride    March 19, 2011  

    I'll give you all a warning, because I've seen the movie.  It doesn't end quite the same as the book did.

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    I do think John would have treated his father differently if he had known.  He would have been more patient and forgiving.

    Like I mentioned last week, Savannah was almost annoyingly perfect.  The thing I realized is, the story is written in John's point of view.  That was how he saw her, flawless.  The only part that seemed unrealistic was when she told the guy on the beach to watch his language.  Unfortunately, in the real world, a typical frat boy would not be so respectful to the little religious know-it-all.  Don't you think? 

    I was definately not surprised she married Tim.  I was also very surprised by his diagnosis.  But in all honesty, when Savannah got in John's car to "go see Tim,"  I thought they were headed to a cemetery!

     
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    RoddyBride09    September 5, 2009   Bethlehem, PA

    @Angela - point well taken! I haven't experienced a "military relationship" before but I was in a LDR for nearly 5 years so my POV was from my experience. And thanks for the heads up on the movie ending. Sometimes I am not fond of what they do to the movies. Like Message in a Bottle when they changed the character's names and parts of the story. I think it ruined it for me. I know movie makers are strapped for time in getting as many of the book details in but I do not like when they change the story. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of making a movie off of an existing story?

     
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    Miss Chocolate    July 24, 2010   Texas... Married in California

    @heath- I thought that they were headed to a cemetery, too! I actually kind of hoped for that so then Savannah and John could get back together. That sounds terrible!!

    Anyone ever read My Sister's Keeper and see the movie? It was COMPLETELY different from what the book was. I was so disappointed!!! I hate it when they switch things around from the book to the movie... So frustrating.

     

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