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I can't say no, so I am not a good person to ask; however, if you make a rule, as long as you use it across the board, you should be fine.
It's hard to use the budget excuse when they offer to pay for themselves! It's still rude though IMO.
Could you just tell them that you want a gathering of people who are important to you and that you have only included significant others of people who live together, are engaged, or are married?
I am not sure I agree on sticking hard and fast to the rule though. For example, I know many people who don't live together before marriage due to religious beliefs. I would then look at how long they have been together versus whether they live together or not.
I like the suggestion about strict space limitations.
I would first start off with your budget - if they then offer to pay for their date, just let them know your venue has space limitations, and you would hope that they would respect your wishes and not bring their guest.
I know this will happen to us too! I've already prepared a "blanket statement". "We would LOVE to include everyone.....but we are on a very tight budget, and really want this to be a personal day with people who have supported our relationship. Number of guests is a big issue for us, but I PROMISE if people RSVP no, and the numbers drop, I will call you and let you know! I hope you understand :-) "
Thanks Bees! This makes me feel better in holding my ground. I feel like there are other people that I know that I would rather have there than his date that I have never met. I like the strict space limitations idea ladies!
A friend of the fiance who asked me via email if he was getting a plus one. As far as we know he is not dating anybody. Consequently, I responded with the following. He did not write back, so I assume what I wrote was adequate.
"To keep the wedding economical and intimate -- for we have invited only our closest friend and dearest family members, we kept our guest lists to adults of eighteen years and older and refrained from the “and guest” option. When we were aware that any of our friends was dating somebody seriously, we included the name of the partner on the invitation as well."
Absolutely hold your ground. Really at the end of the day, do you want strangers at your wedding?
@stacycats: I just stole that and am e-mailing it to myself for a reminder. Great wording.
I have had a couple of people ask me already. I sent RSVP's to singles with ONE line for ONE name and they have still asked. Bascially what I told them was that we have limited space, but if you want to hold on to your RSVP a little longer if a space opens up I'd be happy to allow you to bring a guest. It's not going to bother me on way or the other on our day. I know I won't be sitting around going who is that person and why are they here plus my guest will have much for fun with someone to dance and hang with for the night. All of my most important people will def be there so that is what's important. We only have a handful of singles anyway...
Definitely talk about the venue's space limits and say that the guest list is currently at capacity. And then tell them about the other people that will be there that they know, so they won't be alone!
@lilacwire: Two weeks ago I collected all of my 'explanations' and made a cheat sheet for an acquaintance of mine (and NO we are not expecting to attend each other's weddings for we are not good friends.)
I'm so glad to see that other girls are experiencing this same problem! I have gotten SO irritated by some of our invitee's that have assumed they are allowed to bring a guest even though the invitation was only addressed to them and said nothing about "+ one". Ughhh it's soo rude and annoying! I've told them the same thing, we're way over budget (which we are) and there is limited space. I wish people could understand how expensive weddings can be :( Ok I'm done venting lol.
I just got a reply email, a minute ago, from my cousin's wife, who has a teenager son from her first marriage (I had to email her because she is one of the two people who haven't replied yet and the wedding is in 2 weeks)
Her answer:
Yes, can I bring __*_ ?(teenager's name)
We talked about it when I gave her the invite! We are having a small wedding(under 50) so only close friends and family, and we are not having kids.
Does she have short term memory?
Their wedding had over 200 people and kids were running around during their first dance, that's why we are not having kids and a more intimate celebration.
Space restrictions however if these people know NO ONE, I suggest allowing a guest. I think it would suck big ones to attend a wedding where you don't have a clue who anyone is... and you're not permitted a guest to accompany you... but it's all good if the single person knows a huge group of your friends (completely different).
@bride313: You see, this is where it becomes useful to have been following all those "hilarious" and silly etiquette rules. Because fair is fair, and if you have been restraining yourself within the bounds of propriety, you can expect the same of them:
Etiquette, for example, says that you shouldn't discuss money in any social situation. That means that you don't mention "the budget excuse", and just let it hang there by implication as the unmentioned elephant in the room. If you don't mention it, they can't argue with it, and they can't offer to pay without violating the bounds of propriety themselves.
Etiquette also says, that the only people who come to a social event are those who are personally invited by the hostess, by name, on their own individual invitation. So all those people who are asking if they can "bring someone" are asking to violate propriety. In fact, Etiquette goes even farther and says that you should NOT invite anyone unless you are personally acquainted with them and know them by name. (Yes, I know that "plus ones" and "and Guest" invitations are almost the norm, but that's an example of how the common practice of ignoring etiquette is causing problems.)
So, when someone asks if they can bring a guest, I would simply feign embarrasment and confusion: Have you forgotten a name you should have invited?? Oh, you feel so bad! But, you were certain you had sent invitations to all your close friends and family! Who did you forget? They must tell you, so you can right the situation! ... and then, when they say it's someone you don't know or it's some casual acquaintance, you look confused and relieved and say, oh, you thought they'd said you'd left out someone. No, you had invited everyone you intended to invite. Such a carefully planned guest list, you know, and every guest an intimate friend! So important, to you, to be surrounded exclusively by people who are so precious to you! Such a good friend as the person asking of course understands that an intimate wedding is no place for a casual date! ...thus, you see, you mix flattery with misdirection and deflect the question. You use the same kind of confusion, along with selective deafness, when someone offers to pay(!) As IF you would consider selling tickets to your wedding as though it were some public event: no, you were sure that your friend was not suggesting such a thing!
I think you should practice a stock phrase. My favourite is "I'm sorry that won't be possible", it doesn't give them anything to argue about, doesn't force me to discuss finances etc.
They are the rude ones for even asking to bring an univited guest.
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Hi Bees,
We are way over on our budget and the number of people that I wanted at our "small" wedding. As we are getting closer, friends have been calling/emailing and asking if they can bring a guest with them. I originally decided that unless someone is married, engaged, or living with their SO (and we know them personally for the latter) then they are not to bring a guest.
How do I handle those who are specifically asking to bring their girlfriends, etc? One even offered to pay for her plate!
Is this a bad rule to have??
Any thoughts
THanks Bees!!