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    I saw this on the front page of MSN today so I had to click and read it. It's interesting, humorous and insightful.

    Here's an excerpt:

    <p class="articleabstract">You've been to a few weddings yourself, so you know there are just some things that can rub you the wrong way. Here are a few helpful reminders about what guests can't stand.

    You may think your wedding is all about you and your groom (or maybe just you) but, hello, you're hosting a party! If your guests are miserable, your wedding will be remembered for all the wrong reasons. So we talked to dozens of frequent wedding guests — from always-a-bridesmaids to recent brides to guys in their 20s and 30s — to find out what they hated about the events they've attended. We've kept the guests' names secret just in case they're coming to your wedding!

    For the entire article, go to this site:

    http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articletkt.aspx?cp-documentid=20816186&GT1=32023

     
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    flamingred    June 19, 2010  

    I agree with akk of these to some degree-however if a wedding had one or two happen-i wouldn't be upset. sometimes our budgets can't make everyone happy.

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    Well, they have a few good points! Glad to see I avoided every single "don't do" at my wedding. I don't see how a few of them can't be avoidable...but boy, can you imagine a wedding that included ALL of those? That would suck a little. I think most people go to a wedding not expecting for everything to be the way "they" want anyways nowadays. At least the sensible ones...=]

     
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    Ember78    December 15, 2012  

    I agree wholeheartedly with some aspects they mentioned and I strongly disagree with others (which are actually personal preferences of the writers and those interviewed, and not true breaches of etiquette). No matter what you do, there will be someone who isn't happy but you can't realistically cater to everyone's personal whims and preferences. Be a gracious hostess to the best of your ability and if the guests still complain, that's out of your hands.

     
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    El Capataz    November 2009   Malvern, PA

    If a guest expects all of those things to happen, maybe he/she shouldn't get an invite.

    Things like the time between the ceremony and reception some times are out of the bride and groom's hands.

     

     
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    KateMW    8.30.03   Birmingham

    I agree with the whole list. I'm so glad somebody else wrote it! :)

     
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    amysue    6/6/09  

    Yeah, I agree with it, too.

     
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    I agree with most of it. Some of it is just "ok it happened, let's move on!" but I have experienced some of those situations mentioned in the past. I also don't think anyone really avoids weddings because of those reasons but hey, some of them are bad enough to cringe at.

     
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    cheerful    September 2009 - eloped  

    I agree with the list too.

     
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    peaceluvinbride    6/12/10   Virginia, MN

    I agree with most of it.  Some people are on a strict budget and just cannot afford an open bar though.  We talked to our reception venue and they're willing to let us purchase two kegs from them that we will have hooked up at the bar.  Beer's on us but if you want a mixed drink and/or shot it's on you!!

     
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    professorbee    8/8/09  

    I agree with the article - and I think the point on the open bar is that if you are spending a lot of money on other things (like flowers or a couture gown) then people are going to be annoyed at being asked to pay for their own drinks.  I understand that church schedules can cause gaps between the wedding and reception, but it is inconvenient for guests.  As a bride, you have to make tough choices that won't always please everyone but it is helpful to understand the ramifications of your decisions before you make your choices. 

    I'd also like to add - please provide food for the bridal party during the day.  I knew exactly where to find the bridal party  at the last wedding I was a bridesmaid at to round them up for pictures - I was starving since there was no food, and knew I would be able to find everyone at the buffet table for pictures.  People were not thrilled at losing their first opportunity to eat all day, and it didn't make for the best pictures.

     
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    KateMW    8.30.03   Birmingham

    Yes, as far as open bar goes, the point was that if you've spent thousands elsewhere and can't buy me a drink...shame on you.

     
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    ATLBelle    8-8-09   Atlanta, GA

    Ugh! I agree with the list, but it's making me feel really bad right now because we have a 3 hour time gap at our upcoming wedding . . . we're having a Catholic wedding, but we didn't want an afternoon reception so there wasn't a way to do it any other way!  Oh well, hopefully people won't let it ruin their day . . . we don't have any of the other "bad" things at least! 

     
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    Bamboo    June 2010   Midwest

    Since when is super bowl sunday a holiday? If I was getting married that day and someone complained about it, I would just ask "then why didn't you rsvp NO". Seriously, that is one thing about attending a wedding that you have absolute control over. 

    (END rant). haha

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    I agreed with this whole heartedly.  I'm a believer if you're going to have a wedding, you need to think about your guests.  If your budget doesn't allow for some sort of a bar (it doesn't have to be full) or food you like (because food you like is always good :)- you need to either cut the guest list or some other aspect of the wedding.  I attended my first cash bar wedding a few months ago, and it was a joy kill.  The centerpieces and  lighting were beautiful, but I would have prefered a few tea light candles and beer/wine (or possibly a full bar) instead. 

     The one thing i'm iffy on is the time thing.  Yeah, for the guest it sucks- but sometimes I realize couples can't help this.  Personally, I would switch venues- but many brides have emotional connections to the place where they are marrying so it's totally understandable. 

     
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    Jessie516    May 16, 2009   Ann Arbor, MI

    I actually agree with all of these and I'm glad we didn't do them! :) 

     
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     I agree with a lot of what was said, but I completely disagree with others.

    The problem I have with gripes about the gap or having the wedding on a holiday, is that this is information that guests know before hand.  If you have that big of a problem with the gap, don't go to the ceremony!  I'd rather you don't go to the ceremony, than roll your eyes and complain about it, if that's how you feel.  And if you are invited to a wedding that is on a holiday you'd rather spend doing something else, then RSVP no.  Either the bride and groom are important enough that you wouldn't miss their wedding for anything, or they aren't that close, (and you shouldn't have a problem declining.)  Brides and grooms should be prepared for a higher decline rate, if they are going to have their weddings on a holiday.

    I can appreciate the rest of it, as it's mostly stuff the guests can't control.  (ie, lousy food, or that feeling like the bride and groom spent all kinds of money on the dress and the rings, but no money on their guests.)  But if they just can't afford an open bar or +1s, I get that.  (Although "afford" can be subjective.)

     
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    ggsb    June 13, 2009   Atlanta/North Georgia

    I agree with these actually....and I'm glad we didn't do "most" of them.  Does an outdoor ceremony in 80 degree weather count if it was only 20 minutes long?  ;)

     
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    Miss Hot Sauce    3/13/2010   Cypress, TX

    I agree with most of these. However, my wedding is the weekend before Spring Break which might be considered a holiday as well, but it was convenient for us that way as well. So, if anyone that gets invited to our wedding has a problem giving up one of their "vacation" weekends then I have to agree with one of the posters above, "Then RSVP NO". Simple as that.

    Another one that hit a nerve with me is "You're boring us". I'm getting awfully tired of everyone including MY GROOM putting more emphasis on the reception and partying then the ceremony which IS the entire reason for the day. I'm glad that friends and family are gathering to witness our special day, but if you graciously accepted to come enjoy a free meal and drink the booze that we provided, you can give us 30 minutes to an hour of the day so we actually have a reason to celebrate! 

     

     
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    mowi322    October 3, 2009   flagstaff, az

    ATLBelle, I wouldn't worry about your time gap, especially if most of your guests are Catholic. I'm not, but my FI family is, so nearly every wedding of his cousins' had the gap in the middle. And NO ONE cared - they totally expected it & even had plans in place for where people could go until the reception.

     I think that's the problem with lists like this, especially the tone. Yeah, they have a lot of good points, but it sounds like it's written specifically to shame people who have any of these aspects in their wedding. Mostly, it just makes guests sound whiney: "I don't want to come to your weekday wedding/wait for the reception to start/buy our own drinks/come without some random person you never met!"  Well, if those things are going to ruin your time at the wedding, reply with "No". Eeerg, it irritates me.

    The whole "focus on the guests" thing is getting out of control. I totally understand how all the things on the list would bother people & that's it's very important to consider guests when planning your wedding. I've even been to weddings that have those so-called mistakes, but I've never thought "Wow, what a crappy wedding, I wish I hadn't gone - they were totally selfish!" I've always been more happy for the fact that those two people were getting married & wanted me there to be part of it. If someone comes to my wedding & is irritated that we chose to have more people we love there instead of paying for them to have drinks all night (we're having a partial-bar), then I probably won't be seeing much of them after the wedding.

     
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    GaBGal    September 25, 2010  

    I agree with a good part of the list. However, as someone planning a wedding, I think i UNDERSTAND the challenges better now.

    One thing that bothers me is that it is one-sided: gripes only toward the couple. My biggest wedding gripe (as a guest) deals specifically with guests - I can't stand the clanking of glasses every 5 minutes!

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    I would NEVER cut my guest list in favor of an open bar...NEVER!  My friends and family are far more important that free drinks.

    I am so tired of this open v. cash bar sh*t...seriously.   If daddy was paying then I would brag too!  Some of us are struggling here.  What can't we all be more sensitive?  seriously?

     

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    Not all of us had daddy pay for our weddings and it all turned out just fine; I don't think anyone was stating that their parents paid for the wedding so they had to have certain things. I think the previous posters are just commenting that if you spend $7,000 on a gown and then offer a cash bar, basically you look bad and THAT is not being very courteous to your guests. Most guests do appreciate a cocktail or two at a wedding, anyways, as weddings are celebrations. Hey, if someone wants a drink that badly, they'll purchase their own.

    It's one thing to be budget-friendly in general, it's another thing to be lavish in some arenas and yet not a good hostess. Although what one person's opinion of lavish is not another's. I believe this has been described as cohesiveness on other boards.

    Don't request black tie attire and serve pizza, ultimately...not that I don't like pizza Laughing

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    Actually the original article said cut the guest list.  The more realistic people on here are saying cut the designer gown.  Gown I would cut, guestlist I wouldn't. 

     
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    latoya    August 8, 2009   Brooklyn

    My only gripe at weddings is when the food is yuck. Other than that--I've been invited without a plus one, I've been to some dry weddings, long ceremonies, I've had to work, etc. etc. And honestly even though I remember those things--that's not what I really remember about the weddings. It's usually the crying I do during the ceremony--the bride and groom speeches, it's all the sentimental stuff that comes up for me.

    But, I'm also the kind of person that thinks a lot of things are just not that serious. I've never been to a wedding with a cash bar before--it's either been completely dry or only a champagne toast. The only thing about a cash bar is as long as guests know it's a cash bar beforehand. I do agree that it seems kind of weird to spend a ton of money on a venue, dress, etc. and then have a cash bar, though.

    We have a lot of people working--and that's because my friends and family keep asking us for stuff to do, they want to help out so much. I don't let lists like these affect my wedding planning because I know my guests and what they really care about.

     
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    MissGreen    July 2009  

    As a guest the only thing I expect is a simple Thank you. I take time, sometimes even vacation time, bring a gift and show support to you.  I was raised to be gracious and always give thanks for the simplest things. However, I guess my husbands friends don't feel the same way. We have been to 2 cousins and 2 best friends weddings in 2-3 years and none of them ever said Thank you or sent a card. I find that completely rude, inconsiderate and so on. This irks me more than anything.

     
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    ggsb    June 13, 2009   Atlanta/North Georgia

    I guess I don't see the article as providing "rules" but more thoughts to ponder. We were under a budget, and daddy wasn't paying but we still found ways avoid most of these (although I'd never seen a list of things to avoid during planning).  I don't think it's about anything in specific...like cash bars or even having a bar for that matter...but more in just putting yourself in your guests shoes a bit while planning so they really are celebrating WITH you.  I agree with ejs4y8 in that it's all about cohesiveness. 

     
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    ggsb    June 13, 2009   Atlanta/North Georgia

    and I totally agree with you MissGreen. A simple heartfelt thank you goes a LONG way :)

     
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    sminerva21    September 26, 2009   Chicago, IL/wedding in Upstate, NY

    I agree with most everything, but I don't think some guests have the right to complain about WHEN the actual wedding is (as in a holiday weekend or not) because they can always decline the invitation if they'd rather have a vacation (and I don't think any bride with a head on her shoulders would be upset).

    Honestly, I would rather attend a wedding on a holiday weekend because then I won't have to take more time off work (since I'll already have it off). But if I DID want to take a vacation instead, or already had something planned, I'd just not go, and wish the couple all the best! You can't get peeved about when the couple chooses to celebrate, only that they treat the guests right once they get there :) Most of the time, the couple knows people won't be able to come because of the holiday anyway. Maybe it's there way of pre-emptively cutting the guest list :)

     
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    oyster    July 2010   Dallas

    I read this article with my fiancé and I found it to be unbelievably snarky. Sure, it's bad to have a 3 hour gap at a wedding... I was one of those guests and it's awful. But the tone of the article was mean and angry... it seems like this person has been to too many weddings.

    If you're going to complain about every single thing a wedding has to offer, if you don't want to spend the money, if you don't want to give a gift, don't! Better yet, don't go! Gifts are always optional, and wedding invitations can always be declined.

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    I understand why guests want an open bar, and I agree that one should be provided if at all possible. We can't afford to host cocktails, and they won't be offered, but no one will have to open their wallets for beer and wine and sodas. But for a guest to suggest cutting the guestlist in half just to accomodate an open bar... that guest would probably be in the half that got cut. ;) Having important people present is way more important than just letting half of them get sloshed on the bride and groom's dime.

     
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    mhirni    September 12, 2009   Oakland, CA

    Mitla, you said exactly what I was thinking.  I have been to too many weddings to count, and they came in all shapes & sizes.  Did I have a fantastic time at all of them, no.  Did I regret not taking the time to watch my friends/family start their marriage? Absolutely not.  While some of these points are well taken, and worth giving thought tom I felt like the people in this article were the type of guests I wouldn't want at the wedding! 

     
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    amp0166    12/31/09   Carrollton, TX

    Mitla, I completely agree with you! My fiance's mom sent him this article and he was completely offended by it.  The tone of the article was extremely snarky. 

    Maybe I'm just not a big fan of this article because I'm getting married on New Years Eve.  Anyone that has a problem with this won't come to my wedding and I am 100% OK with that.  This article makes it sound like guests HAVE to be there.  If at any point someone wants to leave my wedding, they are more than welcome to leave.  It's not like I am locking my guests in a jail cell and punishing them or somthing.  There should be no obligation to come to the wedding or to stay for the entire time. 

    This article is completely ridiculous and negates the fact that this day is about the BRIDE and GROOM, not the guests.  Yes I will be providing food and drinks to my guests and do everything possible to make my wedding a fun New Years Eve celebration, but my last concern is that my great aunt's cousins friend isn't happy because I don't have the kind of food she wants at the wedding.  If I spent my entire wedding day worrying about everyone else, my day would be ruined.  You will NEVER make everyone happy, no matter what.

     
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    stine_white    April 9, 2010   Houston, TX

    I think this article was good for throwing some of these ideas out so people will think about them, but the tone was very snarky (as Mitla said) and if people get that upset about some of these things, then I would rather them not come.  Most couples do their best to throw a great party for their guests, but everyone has their own limitations (be it monetary, time, or other resources.)  Ultimately a wedding is supposed to be celebration of the couple's love for each other, and for those close to them.  Why do we all get so caught up in the rest of it?

     
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    peanutlovespumpkin    9-18-10   Los Angeles

    I agree with every one of those points!  Many of them (good food & music, open bar, every guest gets a +1) I placed as priorities above the stuff that brides may care more about than guests (fancy invitations, extravagant flowers, interesting "details").  People just want a good party - they're not going to remember how many peonies you have in your centerpieces if they have to shell out for a vodka tonic!

     
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    Mrs. Starfish    03/27/2010   Myrtle Beach, SC

     I agree with Marigold. My family and best friends should care more about seeing Mr. S & I celebrage our marriage vs. getting drunk. I understand wanting to not pay but I am sure they will understand. As of right now we picked the location that fit in our budget but keeping it what we dreamed of (I had almost given up on finding it affordably). Our guest list was made by who is related to us and then filled with our very closest friends. I do happen to have a large family and hope that they can all make it. If they all do I will not be able to provide an open bar. I have to be realistic a four hour reception would cost $5000 more. That's equal to half of our budget.

     
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    amysue    6/6/09  

    Well, for us, our wedding was honestly not about getting all our friends and family to watch us get married. It was about throwing a good party and enjoying peoples' company, and having a great excuse to see lots of people we haven't seen in a long time. The marriage could have happened at the courthouse. So we did everything we could to make our guests comfortable and happy and to act as hosts within our best capacity to do so.

     
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    mouse    September 11, 2009   Austin, TX

    I do agree with most of this list, but it seems like it's written from the point of view of someone who has never planned a wedding.  Trying to thank every single person for coming during the reception?  That sounds stressful!  Isn't that what parents are for? 

     
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    miss mandamar    March 19, 2010   Ft Worth, TX

    I hope that my sincere wish for my loved ones to be with us on our special day will redeem our random Thursday night wedding in the eyes of our beloved guests.Tongue out

     
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    RecessionistaBride    January 28, 2012  

    My FI and I discussed a list of what we hated about other people's weddings so we could avoid it.

    This list should come with your e-ring!

     

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