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I just need to vent.
Our wedding is NEXT WEEK and our response date was June 3rd. We invited everyone over the age of 18 with a date. FI's youngest brother is 15 and FMIL just informed me that he is bringing a date. He wasn't invited with a date due to his young age and we have finalized everything - our linens order, the number of place settings, the number of entrees, the guest list/ seating chart is already with the calligrapher and only now I find out that not only is he bringing an uninvited date, but he is doing in with one week until our wedding.
I am ready to pull my hair out. If we had found out even a week ago, fine. We added 4 extra seats in case of non responders showing up, but those people have finally RSVP'd and I am not going to push one of them out for some random 14 year old girl who none of us has ever even met to come.
To make matters worse, she is going to be driving across the country with FMIL and FI's baby brother so now she is going to be stuck at the hotel all by herself ALL day. I don't think a 14 year old who is traveling without her parents should do that. I'm not her parents, but I told FMIL to please let them know that she will be alone all day to make sure that they are comfortable with that. Aside from baby brother, there will be no one else under the age of 25 at the wedding, so it won't be as if we are having a babysitter for children. I realize 14 isn't that young, but I wouldn't want my (if I had one) 14 year old daughter at a hotel ALL DAY by herself while she is traveling away from me.
I have seriously just had it.
Sounds like an issue for the mother to deal with. If you told her there will be no seat (and being that it's a week away, I can't see how she would think you can magically make another seat and get another meal) and she chooses to bring the girl anyway.. that's their own issues to deal with. Don't worry about it, not your drama to deal with!
That is REDONKULOUS. A 15 year old first of all really doesn't need a date! I totally see what you are coming from, that would irritate me especially when you guys are this close.
Are you doing round tables or banquet style? 8, 10 or 12 per table? Could you squeeze her in at the table? Noone will notice that she isn't on the seating chart. Just tell FI's youngest brother that she is to sit next to him. If plated meal, give her the same meal as him. My friend recently had this happen at her wedding (but she found out the day of the wedding), and squeezing in an 11th person at a 10 person round table worked out just fine. No one noticed, I promise.
Wow, thats nuts! why do people think things like that are OK. My parents would have NEVER let me go out of state without them unless it was with a school trip.
Edit- There is no reason for a 15 yo to need a date. He prob wont even be with her in a week.
Just to add. Caterers will always have an extra meal on hand that they can serve (just in case a guest sends it back, finds a hair in their plate, etc), and if your place settings are through your caterer, then they should have extra as well. You will still have to pay for her, but most caterers can handle this situation.
I don't think it matters if the tables can fit her or the caterer can make an extra meal. She wasn't invited, period. A 14 year old does NOT need a date, and I've never once heard of someone under 18 getting a +1, he would have received his own invitation instead of an & family one if that were the case!
I don't understand why she will be by herself at a hotel all day. Why wouldn't she be with FMIL and her son? Are you talking about during the wedding? I'm sure you can call to get one more place setting and squeeze it in to whatever table the boy is at. Don't worry about the seating chart, just tell her ahead of time to sit next to the boy. Although this is annoying, I don't think it's worth getting too upset about. It might even be a good thing since the boy will now have a companion to keep him occupied.
Very inconsiderate of your FMIL. It's not like he'll even show the poor girl a good time. 15 year old boys are a bunch of pukes for the most part!
On the plus side, if you don't want to make it an issue with her I bet your caterer can whip up an extra meal and a 14 year old girl should be able to squeeze in anywhere.
I'd have FI call FMIL and baby bro to say, sorry, we just can't accomodate her, leave her at home! What in the world are they thinking?!
That's INSANE. How did FMIL even come about to tell you? She HAS to know what a planning nightmare that would be!!! Did she think it would be 'no big deal???'
Wow that's horrifying. I hope they don't bring her, how rude of them to both you and this girl.
What is their deal?! Obviously they are acutley aware of everything already being settled, they are FI immediate family after all! I would have FI call and talk first to little bro, then to mom and say its not gonna happen, end of story. If they b and moan and in general cause more of a fuss then you want to deal with, then I would contact the caterer and let them know of the situation. I ditto that she should just be squeezed in where the bro is sitting.
How frustrating!
If you said you can't accommodate her, why is she still driving across the country with your FI's family??? Um... hello? Leave her at home.
Your better than me, I'd tell them BOTH can't come. WTF Wow I really pray I don't have deal with this nonsense next year.
I would flip-- and I could totally see this happening to me-- FMIL just said last week:
Me: She's not bringing a date correct?
FMIL: Correct
Me: Good
FMIL: But you should just plan on everyone bringing extra people despite what they say. You know they will.
aaaaaah
This is why is gets tricky - we are renting linens and fancier place settings through an outside vendor and not using what the reception location has. Even though we have already included some extra places for random people that show up, we think that they will all actually be used by those we think are going to come.
I also don't really want a random 14 year old girl there either. FI's baby brother is very well behaved and while I haven't met this girl, I have heard she isn't exactly the most mature to put it nicely, although I wouldn't expect her to be at 14.
The only person she will know is FI's baby brother and the table that he is sitting at is where all of the groomsmen will be sitting.
The biggest problem is that I'm just overcome by how rude and inconsiderate this is. I didn't get any sort of warning and I also chose to not have children at our wedding. Obviously FI's little brother is an exception, but typically, 15 year olds are not allowed to bring dates and this girl is even younger.
In terms of her sitting alone at the hotel, I am referring to her being alone for the whole day during the wedding. We are having a full Catholic ceremony, which will last 90 minutes and then the reception will begin shortly thereafter. Since FI's baby brother is in the wedding and his parents are in the wedding, there will not be any time to either drop her off after the wedding at the hotel or check on her. I can't imagine that her parents would be comfortable with her being on the other side of the country alone at a hotel for 11 hours.
Aside from that is the additional expense. We are at close to $200/ plate, which my parents are very generously paying for and I really don't want to go to them and tell them we are going to have some random 14 year old girl that no one has ever met.
I had an extra uninvited guest added to my group at the last minute too--a man I had never met and whom I had clearly stated was not invited (when invitations went out).....The only way I found out was b/c I took a quick trip to my parent's home to get a few things taken care of....and it came out in conversation. Otherwise, I would have found out on the day of!! Anyway, at that point, I was annoyed, but didn't let myself get all worked up over it....just wasn't worth it anymore with all that was going on in the days leading up to the wedding. I was welcoming and gracious to the guest when I met him, even though, inside I was annoyed.
@nona49: Yeah, I hear you. That is how I feel if they end up bringing her. If she shows up, there is really nothing I can do, but I just can't get over how inconsiderate it is. I know FMIL means well, she really does, but a week before the wedding?! She even knew that we weren't inviting children. (Sigh)
it sounds like you really need to explain the situation to FMIL (or have FI do it) and tell her that you absolutely can not fit her in. its not like she is a second cousin that you forgot to invite...shes not even related to the family!!! id be pissed.
Wow, that's completely outrageous. I would be totally cheesed off even if they had given you more notice! There is NO REASON a 15-year-old needs to bring a date to a wedding. I actually think you're quite generous in inviting all guests over 18 with a guest, as even that's becoming more common. FMIL is a bold, bold lady to do this without even asking you before telling him it was alright.
@Soon2BeMrsCLW3: I am letting FI take care of this. We'll see what ends up happening since it sounds like this girl is still making the trip out here, but it has been really helpful for me to just be able to vent to you guys. I am feeling better already. I just don't want to have to deal with this stuff the week before the wedding.
I can't believe that a 14 year old girl's parents would let her drive out of state with her "boyfriends" parents!!! Man, I am liberal and don't think I'm too old fashioned (maybe I'm wrong lol), but that blows my mind! My mother would have LAUGHED, and laughed hard, if I asked her to allow me to do that when I was 14!!!!
I don't know what the solution is - but I would be MAD if I were you!
@gabrielleelise1981: I wasn't even allowed to go to mall by myself at 14 let alone drive across the country with a boyfriend's (I also wasn't allowed to date then either) family.
@Mrs. Louboutin: via email?! UNREAL. Has she responded to you asking her to talk to the 14-year old parents about leaving her alone all day? I hope they leave her at home!!!
@oracle: I didn't respond to the email. I let FI handle it by calling her. FI told her that the girl cannot come to the wedding. We just don't have the room for her and we don't want to have to order an additional place setting from the linen's rental place. It's just too much hassle. He said that FMIL said that it's baby brother's fault for not finding out sooner if she could come (still, she wasn't ever invited, but I guess that point is moot), but I don't think a 15 year old who doesn't understand wedding planning should be responsible for this.
I am really hoping that she just doesn't even come on the trip because I will feel really bad if she is stuck at the hotel all day and will probably have to figure something out to just let her come.
We'll see. This sucks.
I just read this post and wanted to say sorry- this is unbelieveable. I've never heard of 15 year olds getting a plus one! What's wrong with her parents? If it were my daughter the answer would be no. I wouldn't want my daughter at an event where there were strangers and alcohol (my daughter wouldn't be dating at 15 though..)
Keep us posted!
Wow, this is beyond weird!
Oh and congrats on your upcoming wedding - it is sooooo soon!!!!
Big hugs. Unexpected surprises like that totally suck but you handled it in exactly the right way.
There is something to be said for having employees of the venue as Ushers. Name not on the list, no getting in. PERIOD!!!
I was 16 when my sister was married. I wasn't even given the option of having a date, it wasn't even a topic of consideration
Thanks ladies! Well the random little girl drove across the country with FMIL and FI's little brother. She is not coming to the reception. The decision is final. We have already spent so much money and given FI 2/3 of the guest list that adding on another is just not going to happen. Especially because she is a little girl, I have never even met her and she WAS NOT invited! We aren't having kids at our wedding other than FI's brother. We also aren't paying an additional $200 for her meal and changing the linen and flower orders (each place setting has a matching rented napkin, charger, and a fresh rosebud). No, no, no more. While I am sharing with you ladies how I really feel, FI took care of this and told FMIL that it is too late. He didn't get into specifics (although sometimes, I really want to since this is so inappropriate).
Good for you! We had this happen the week of our wedding too. An invited guest who not only didn't respond to the invitation, but also our follow up attempts informed us the week of our wedding that not only was he coming, but bringing a friend who wasn't invited and who we had never met. I was furious, but calmed down quickly when I realized that two other people had just backed out, so it was an easy swap.
Still, very rude and inconsiderate. That said, good luck and congrats!! :)
so glad you two put your foot down on this one. . .you say the little bro is 15? Give it a week, maybe a month, they won't even be dating anymore.
@ktisthatbees: They aren't even dating! FMIL wanted to bring someone to entertain him on their week long driving trip!
@Mrs. Louboutin: Good for you for standing your ground!!! I can't believe the girl's parents and your FMIL for her lack of logic and common manners! My FMIL is already making noises about cousins needing to be "entertained" (we're doing the same as you- no kids, with the execption of a random 15-16 year old).
I don't understand how people can have NO IDEA how rude that is! Or they do know and just don't care...
Either way, good luck!!
@PinkPinstripes: Thank you :) We'll see how it goes! If I get the guilt trip over this girl, I am going to go cookoo bonkers apeshit all over everything, but I hope that doesn't happen.
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