Wedding photo frustration – we have been tangoed

posted 2 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 2
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

Your photographer should be working to make sure you are happy. I don’t think it should be unreasonable.

I am fair skinned myself. I hate when people think my skin needs to be corrected. I love that I’m pale. It’s who I am. I don’t need a tan.

One of my photos got edited like this, only for my album. I was really uncomfortable with it, and tried to get them to fix it, but they did it partially because a shadow had fallen across my arm and they were trying to even everything out. They wouldnt really fix it back to the original color. Whatever – it was just one picture, and yes I suppose it looks better without the shadow slicing my arm in half. But I still look unnaturally dark. Thing is – I’m the only one who would ever notice it. The edited picture you posted doesn’t look unnatural at all – that’s someone’s skin color. It’s just not yours.

You deserve to have pictures you are happy with.

Post # 3
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Worker bee

Imho I think the edited picture looks better.  The unedited one looks the colors look too white washed.  However, I do hope your photographer can do whatever he can to please you.  

Post # 6
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2014

I see what you are saying about the orange.  Have you talked to him about not being happy with the color and/or asked him to re-edit?

Post # 7
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

tails:  Is your screen calibrated? I’m a professional photographer and I’m looking at your images using a calibrated screen (what I see is what will show up in a professional print), and you do NOT look orange. Your unedited photo is the wrong color – too blue and too cold – and the edited photo – while a tad warm for my taste – is actually more accurate. 

Post # 9
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

tails:  you’re in a stickier situation because the photographer you ended up having is not the photographer you originally hired. While that has not happened to me, I have it in my contract that if I am unable to photograph a wedding, i find a replacement and then *I* am responsible for editing so that I still have control over the quality of the images. Unfortunately that doesn’t sound like your case. And because I’m very confident in my color abilities, I never send out unedited photos, but I would invite the bride over to my home so that we can look at the screen together and I adjust it off of the RAW files. If the photographer gave you JPEG files, then your files will continue to lose quality as you keep editing them. 

 

I use a combination of tools to adjust color. First I go over photographs in lightroom and I use white balance. However, many other things affect color as well – the amount of blacks, contrast, brightness, and exposure in the photographs. For example, your edited photographs have more contrast to them, which also adds to the warmer colors. Then in my fine editing I open things up in Photoshop and I handle most editing using the Curves tool. If you really can’t figure things out, I recommend you get professional retouching done on the photos you love the most. 

Post # 10
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Buzzing bee

tails:  I see what you mean, I’d hate that. The edited picture will look normal and very nice to strangers but when you see it you know it doesn’t look like you. I’m very pale and I’d be PISSED someone edited to make me more tan *assuming* that’s what I’d want.

Make sure you let him know what about the editing you didn’t like.

Post # 11
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

I am upset by the person that says the second photo is more accurate. Some of us really are that pale.

But he or she brings up a good point. OP, you never specifically say you want to share these pictures online – you talk about not having an album or pictures on your walls. Perhaps you should see how they look in print? Maybe it won’t be as bad, since the professionals seem to think they are correct. Since it’s already been a few months and a lot of stress, it probably wouldn’t hurt to pay to have a few of them printed.

Also – I really think you should get in touch with your original photographer on the phone and see if there’s anything he can do to help smooth out the communication between you and the replacement photographer.

Post # 12
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

koi424:  I said the 2nd photograph was more accurate, but it’s not correct either as it is too warm. The first photograph is a tad too cold. Also, without seeing OP’s face, it’s a lot harder for me to judge because usually the face is the best used for a color reference point. More technical details below on why people see color differently…

 

tails:  The way we see color on a computer screen is different by person. If you’re sitting in a room flooded with artificial light from a lightbulb right now, most photographs on your screen will appear warmer than they actually should be. And funny thing – when women are on their periods, sometimes they see colors differently too.

The best thing for you to do is to print one of the photos through your favorite printer. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter HOW the photo looks on your computer screen, it’s the print that matters. And since *every* printer is different (CVS, for example, prints things wayyyy too over saturated), our screens may be “calibrated”, but mine is calibrated with one particular (and fairly accurate) professional printer in mind. Every good photographer would continue to recalibrate their screens by the printer they are using, which means that sometimes I have more than one calibration profile handy as I switch between one printed product and another.

All technicality aside, make one print. Then calibrate your computer screen so it looks exactly like the print, and then continue to make your edits. 

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

melonseeds:  I understand that you are giving OP some really great advice. Thank you for being so helpful. Your advice is what OP really needs.

I just want to give OP some emotional support. Even though your words, and most likely her photographers words, are entirely professional – it just really strikes a nerve. It hurts when people imply that your skin color is not the right color. But OP doesn’t really need commiserators, so I’ll shut up now.

Full disclosure: I am not currently on or near my period. But that’s a fun fact! I’ll keep that in mind when choosing paint colors! lol.

Post # 14
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: August 2013

Ugh. I’m with you. I prefer people to be their natural color! If you’re naturally darker, that’s fine, but people don’t need to go out and tan or have their skin photoshopped just because they’re pale! I’m glad you like the ones that you got that are unedited and hope you get the rest unedited too! All that being said, if I didn’t know any better, I’d think the edited picture was nice. And I guarantee that nobody with notice the coloring like you do. We’re all hyper aware of ourselves. But when I first looked at the picture, my thought wasn’t “wow – they’re tan” it was “Wow- what a great ring!”.

Post # 15
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2014

tails:  The original is a touch too cold, but the edited photo is way too warm.  You need somewhere in between.  But might be worth printing one just to see how it would look.

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