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    fizicsGirl    8/1/2009   Michigan

    Okay, I'm kind of at my wit's end...but I want an outside perspective in case I'm contributing to this somehow.  Basically, I feel completely unsupported by my BFF/MOH and on top of that I feel like she's making everything harder.

    This started early on when we went dress shopping.  We met up in a city close to where she and my sister live.  The first thing she did when she arrived is complain about how she was in a bad mood (not even hello).  But then she called me a few days after and apologized.  She kind of freaked out b/c she broke up with the guy she thought she'd marry (but over a year before).  Anyway, everyone deals with emotions differently, and I definitely felt like her apology was sincere.

    Fast forward, and we're looking at BM dresses.  One of my big criteria was that it not be too expensive.  I picked color and fabric, and let them pick the dress they wanted.  She got first dibs on the style b/c we looked together.  The dress was under $150 which isn't cheap, but far less expensive than any other dress I've ever had to wear as a BM.  But she just complained about how all BM dresses suck.

    My uncle (who I'm very close to and who actually was staying with my parents when I was born) passed away a few weeks ago.  MOH knows him.  But she never said a word (not even are you okay, I'm sorry, anything) to me about it.  I'm almost past the stage where I randomly break down in tears about it, but it's not been an easy time and it's hard to feel unsupported.

    Now my B'ette Party is this weekend.  Planning it has been a nightmare, and I know at least part of it is my crazy schedule.   I have repeatedly said it's not necessary, but she insists that she wants to throw one.  Anyway, we decided to do it in my hometown (not where I live now, though) which means that flights are cheaper and that we can stay with another BM.  My sister and godmother are also having a brial tea thing for me beforehand.  Well now MOH wants me to pick her up and drop her to airport.  It's about 50 mins each way.  And as I said, I don't live there so I don't have my own car...and this is the only weekend for me to see parents etc before wedding.  My mom and I actually have a lot to do...I bought a ticket that leaves pretty late so that I can do this stuff.  Cabs are not cheap, though, $70 each way.  But I was hoping she could share with the other friend flying in.  She says this is still too expensive.  I'm not sure what to say since this w/e is way cheaper than other B'ette ideas she put forward, and she earns more than me and FI combined.  I don't have a right to tell her how to spend her money, but we've been in a wedding together and this is way less expensive that was.  And at any rate, I did put out there that if anyone was having difficulty they should let me know and I'll try to help out.  I guess I feel that I'm already asking the bare minimum (dress, show up, I even said she asked her to stay with me the nights before the wedding).

    But right now I'm just getting a constant negative vibe about our wedding and it's draining.  I really feel like asking her not to stay with me during the wedding...I'm currently concerned that she will ask me to take responsibility for getting her places.  I don't know.  Everytime I've been a BM (not even MOH), I've always asked what the bride needed and tried to alleviate any stress they may be feeling...whether that's wandering the city to find shawls for the BM's an hour before the RD or just making sure she is in calm happy place before the ceremony.  I feel that in this situation I would rent a car and ask if I can help picking up/dropping off people and things.  But instead I feel that she's expressing how much of a burden this all is (not directly), and asking me to alleviate this for her.  I don't really believe in asking BM's to step down...and she's been my best, best friend for 14 years!  I feel like I'm losing her at the most important time in my life, though.  I'm just trying to understand what's going on.  And I'm having a hard time figuring out how to address it with her.  I know that I've been a bit pre-occupied in the last few months, but I've tried really hard to continue to ask her about her life etc. 

    I just don't know what could be going on for her or what to do about it...I guess part of it is that I don't want yet more drama in my life (it's been horrid for the last few weeks), but I'm not sure what else to do....

     
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    soontobewalsh    09/18/10   Boston

    If this isn't normal behavior for her than there may be something going on with her and unfortunately she is taking it out on you and your wedding. Maybe she is starting to feel sad or upset that she doesn't have someone she is close to marrying. Maybe she is starting to look at her own life and where it is going and she may not like what she sees. I dont know your friend so I am just guessing at this.

    Regardless of why she is acting like this you should probably sit down and talk with her. You could phrase it to her in a way that she knows you are concerned about her and the way she has been acting rather than coming out and telling her what an awful MOH she is being. Maybe she'll tell you what's going on and more importantly maybe she'll realize her bahavior and change it ASAP.

    You'll have enough going on without needing her to add to your worries. Talk it out with her.

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    mechiebaby    June 4, 2010   Malaysia / Washington DC

    I don't have any great advice, just wanted to send hugs your way. I would agree with soontobewalsh that you should try to have a heart to heart with her... you are both stressed out, but for different reasons... fand if you've survived 14 years together, you can survive this :)

    Sometimes I find that the bf and I just get into a fighting rut... and then we make ourselves talk about it, sometimes cry, and then its over and we're ok again. Just invite her out for coffee or something and just ask to get everything off your chest, and then you can talk about it together. 

     

     
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    Tanya123      

    "She kind of freaked out b/c she broke up with the guy she thought she'd marry (but over a year before."     DING DING DING DING DING!

    Even though this was a year ago, if she hasn't found a new man, she is still dwelling in her own loss.  In a perfect world, we all would be nothing but happy for our friends, and their successes and good foturne.  Unfortunately, most of us have periods of self pity and self centeredness, particularly, if it's regarding something bad.  (Isn't it so much easier to harp on bad feelings/memories/events, than good ones?)

    In giving you some discomfort about all this wedding stuff, she might be simply preoccupied with her own troubles, and not realizing she's putting you out.  Or maybe it's a passive aggressive thing.  Could be that she's trying to cut your happiness down a bit, to make herself feel better.

    I would actually try to eliminate, as much as possible, wedding talk around her.  I know as MOH, you should rely on her.  But it soundsl ike her friendship is important enough to you, that you can navigate around her.  I think she'll come around after the wedding stuff dies down.    I don't know that I would talk to her about all of the things bugging you, or her behavior.  However, I think it's OK to be honest that you don't have the time/money/etc to fulfill her requests of you.  I also think it's OK to talk to her about how she is doing lately, and how her life is going.  (It might be a good way to delicately say... "Hey, ya been kinda stressed lately?)

    Good luck.

     
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    Kittyachi    August 2010   New York

    I agree with Tanya123 that it is probably related to her own situation re: her break-up. I can imagine it would be difficult to be involved in your wedding if she is still not over the situation with her ex, but this of course doesn't give her the right to make your life difficult. She probably doesn't know it's bothering you so much. I'd say definitely tell her you can't give her a ride, etc. because you have too much to do - that's just the way it is and she needs to deal. And, sorry, it costs $$$ to be in someone's wedding. You're being really gracious and trying to minimize your BMs costs, but you can only do so much. It comes with the territory and she's been a BM before so she should know that. As for having "a talk" with her, I don't know. It might just cause more drama. I don't know how your friendship is with her and if you've had issues you've talked out before. If you have and it went smoothly, I'd say do it just to get it off your chest. If not, then try to just let it go. ignore her compaining, and focus on what YOU need to do.

     
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    fizicsGirl    8/1/2009   Michigan

    Thanks for the advice gals.

    yeah, I'm sure that bad feelings about not being married is a lot of it...but it's now been two years since they broke up (longer than they were even dating).  She has a pattern of falling head over heels for guys who turn out to be kind of jerks, being "sure" they are going to get married, and then moping for an extended period of time after they break.  This is just the most extreme case of it.  I've tried really hard to be there for her over these two years.  When they broke up, I was in the midst of writing my PhD thesis and developed severe neck and back problems (which persist  to this day and still prevent me from doing most the things I used to do on a regular/daily basis).  I really tried to be there and not burden her with my own stuff, but it was a horrendous, horrible time for me (I worked round the clock with 45 mins of working, 1 hour of lying down in agony...FI and I really struggled also b/c it was such a major life change for us, there was a time when we weren't sure we could make it but we did and are better for it).  And now I'm getting married and she's not here for me either.  I haven't asked her to do anything w.r.t. wedding planning.  I suggested she join my sister and I for dress shopping, but not in a way that I think she'd feel obligated just for fun.  I haven't asked her to do a thing for the wedding other than show up (and she did just inform me that I was holding the rehearsal too early so she probably won't be able to come until later which is also fine, whatever).

    I guess I'm just trying to figure out if I'm expecting too much from a friend, or...It hasn't always felt this way.  There was a time when we were both really close and we could both be there for each other.  But lately I feel like a combination between a therapist and an unwanted burden and expense.  Definitely not a friend.  I just don't know what to do...and maybe I'm afraid that if I address it she won't really be able to respond in a way that feels good.  And I'm not in that place where I can address it and not care about her reaction...

    I know life happens, but how long is a person supposed to just be patient and understanding and still put in effort to maintain a relationship?  And I don't understand why even if she doesn't want to deal with my wedding she couldn't offer me some condolence or something about losing a family member...I just felt really abandoned.  And should I surround myself with this so close to my wedding?

     
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    ES123    April 25, 2009   Laurel, MD

    I agree with kittyachi - we hear so much advice to make things easy on the bridesmaids, keep the dresses cheap, don't expect any parties....I'm sick of it! It costs money to be in a wedding. A bride gets stressed easily and has a lot going on, she doesn't need to deal with your drama too. When you say "yes" to being a bridesmaid, you have to be prepared to accept these things as fact. If you are not willing to put in the time, effort, money to get a dress, throw some well-planned parties, and support your friend, than tell your friend that and say no!

    Can you tell this gets me worked up? In the past year, I've been a bride, and a bridesmaid, and I happily paid for expensive parties, gifts, ran around doing errands, helped her pick out a great BM dress, dealt with the crazy MOH, etc. Because she is my friend and that's what you do when you are in a wedding. If you agree to be a bridesmaid you are agreeing to get over yourself. UGH!

     
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    Tanya123      

    No, I don't think you're expecting too much.  It's that she's rather...impaired about your wedding, right now.  I understand it's been two years.  And sure she needs to get over it, or she might just be pouting herself through each day, missing the man of her dreams walking right by her.  But I'm sure there are plenty of people who just get devastated and cling to the past.  It could also bethat she was on a kind of plateau with regards to her love loss, for a while.  But with your impending wedding, her feelings have deteriorated.

    And as for condolences, I don't know.  Sometimes I get anxious telling people "I'm sorry for your loss."  I just don't want to say something that will make them breakdown, or say it at the wrong time.  My son and I were a b-day party for one of his friends.  I wanted to offer my condolences to the boy's father. (His brother died.)  but didn't because I thought the party was the wrong time to say something that was a bummer.  But it is hard to know in your friend's case.

    I suppose you have to take care of yourself first.  If she's toxicto you, maybe you can reevaluate how often you see her. Or how deeply involved she will be in your life in the future.  I'm still hoping she comes around eventually.

     
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    Kittyachi    August 2010   New York

    You know, the more you tell us about this friend, the more she sounds like a friend of mine who I am not involving in my wedding party for similar reasons. She hasn't felt like a real friend for a while, she is selfish and self-absorbed most of the time, she's negative, etc. She assumed she would be my MoH, too. It's a bad situation but I'm just not going to cave and do it because I don't want to end up in a situation where I regret it and I know I would. I think she's really upset with me, but honestly I don't care. Now maybe she knows what it feels like to have a friend let you down.

    You can't drop your MoH from the wedding at this point, but what you can do is just sort of ignore her nonsense and not let it affect you. Maybe she really isn't a good friend to you anymore - I mean, not having ANY words of consolation for you after a family member dies? That's just horrible. So maybe just ignore her drama and get yourself in a mindset where you can not let it affect you. I feel like because she's not being a good friend, she really doesn't deserve any sort of sympathy or concessions from you.

     
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    fizicsGirl    8/1/2009   Michigan

    Thanks Tanya, I think it's a good point about maybe my wedding pushing her off a plateau.  I hadn't considered that.  She had started doing a bit better (she found out that he had been cheating on her for the latter part of the relationship, which I think helped her see past feeling that he was "the one") so I just thought maybe things were turning around.  But it could be that she's going through something new.  It's weird, several other friends and my parents have made comments about how she's acting (even without my telling details, just observing).  I feel that I'm defending her actions a lot of the time.  And I do feel, though, that right now she's making the wedding stuff really hard.  So maybe you're right and the best thing is to just do what I need to do, and hope she comes around.  I still can't decide if anything good will come of addressing this with her...I might just feel it out a bit more.  I do need to decide whether I want her to stay with me before the nights before the wedding...I already asked her b/c I thought it'd be a fun slumber party type thing, now I'm not sure.  I suppose it's telling that her immediate response when I brought it up was, what if I'm dating someone?  Kind of a joke, but still.

     

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