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Sorry, I've been super busy lately and haven't had anytime to get it together. Plan on compling the entries tonight and getting the hostesses to vote on them. You should know in the next few days. Thanks for asking.
@pixiedixie862: Hi, We are finishing up the voting by the hostesses. With Thanksgiving being last week, i wanted to give us Hostesses enough time. I'll get them tallied and posted for the whole hive to vote. I do apologize for taking so long. We are a group of volunteers so unfortunately I got super busy and didn't have the chance to turn this around quick enough.
I feel like a lot of things are falling through the cracks on weddingbee these days. I totally get that the site is growing and there is a lot to be done by a few people. Maybe it would be better to cut your losses on some of the extra things instead of promising things that don't get done. Waiting for the results from a Halloween contest past Christmas is pretty absurd to me.
It's kind of like the post in the middle of the boards. Very few bee's like it and it rarely get's changed so it isn't even really serving it's purpose. Also, the leaders board has been broken for probably over 6 months. Just cut your losses. It seems like we continually hear from the Admins and Mods that you are on a volunteer basis and that is the excuse as to why things aren't getting handled in a timely manner. If you're not keeping up with things that the bee's are inquiring about, my logical thought would be to stop offering extras until you are caught up or cut out the things you can't keep up on. It would be a lot less of a disappointment to the users of the site if things just weren't offered rather than them being put together with half the effort. Just a thought.
@MsBrooklynA: I completely agree. It's December, voting on a Hallowe'en contest now seems a bit ridiculous. To be perfectly honest, I gave up on it after a couple of weeks because I figured this would happen.
I don't think any of us would object to sacrificing contests and extras so that the mods aren't stretched so thin. I'd rather see them be able to address more current matters and keep the site running smoothly than spend time catching up on a seasonal contest that was started nearly two months ago and is no longer relevant.
Let's just give all the entrants a participation ribbon and call it a day!
@MsBrooklynA: I agree.... I also think the leader boards have been broken for longer. They were broken when I joined which was January this year... so that's almost 12 months...
@.twist.: I thought it had been that long but I couldn't remember exactly. It's frustrating because that was something I looked forward to.
@linguo42: Agreed!
@MsBrooklynA: If you have a better way to run things, do it. Organizing something like this website with the many volunteers is alot more difficult than you even realize. Honestly, this kind of negativity is so frustrating because only one side is being looked at. These women (and some men) do alot... and for YOU. If you don't like how long something like a contest takes to turn around, don't participate. That way you wont be disappointed when it isn't "perfect".
@Ms Hedgehog: I actually didn't participate in the contest. But I know the community looks forward to the results and I think those people should see results. I offered plenty of suggestions in my post about cutting out the excess so that they have more time to focus on other things. I think with Bakerella stepping into DG's position, it is very fitting for us to share our opinions on what different things we would enjoy seeing happen to the bee. The site in and of itself is in a time of transition and offering my own opinion on what direction I would like to see the site move isn't negativity. It's constructive criticism.
@Ms Hedgehog: I don't see MsBrooklynA's comment as anything but constructive. I've heard the phrase, "We are a group of volunteers who are often busy with our real lives," about a hundred times. Logical solution, make what limited time they DO have to spend on this site count.
Think of the Bee as if it were your home. Which would you rather have: a bunch of half-finished decor projects, a leaky faucet and a broken radiator, OR a tap that doesn't drip and working heat, but a few bare walls?
On behalf of the hostesses, I'm sorry that the Halloween contest results have been so delayed. It's not fair to the community, but we're already talking about ways to make sure delays like this don't happen again.
In terms of things like the leaderboard being broken -- that's something that is unfortunately completely out of the hands of the hostesses and moderators. We miss the leaderboard as much as everyone else, I promise. :) It's on our list of things for the site's technical team to fix/address, but that's pretty much the extent of our influence as we're not actually WB employees.
We work hard to serve as advocates for the members of the site and their wants. We appreciate suggestions, and feedback from the hive is absolutely taken into consideration.
At the end of the day, Weddingbee is run like many other sites, and sometimes that means that fixes aren't instantaneous. But that doesn't mean that the matter is ignored. Issues that are critical to us being able to use the site are the tech team's priority, and we often see those issues corrected very quickly so that we can at least continue to participate on the site as intended.
@Ms Hedgehog: She's not being negative or asking for things to be "perfect", she's being practical. If it's becoming overwhelming, focus your time and energy on the things that do matter. If she didn't give a shit about the site she wouldn't have posted any suggestions at all.
Thank you ladies. I do care about the site and would like to see it functioning at it's best.
@Gemstone: I appreciate your response and I'm not demanding that everything be fixed instantly but I feel that if something hasn't worked for over 12 months then it is probably time to eliminate it or fix it. I know you ladies and gentleman all see and read what we have to say and I hope you are right in saying that you are not intentionally ignoring our requests or suggestions.
As in any relationship, I think the best way to keep the member's happy is to keep the communication flowing. Maybe a preemptive strike would be a better tactic next time. If you know the results of a contest are going to take longer than expected, let the group know. Tell us that you are working on things and that it will be up by such and such a date. Or possibly you could share with us what is going on with the site and what ya'll are working on so that we understand those things take time. I would really like to know what is in the works for the site so that we can have a better understanding of what's to come and when some of these technical issues and time sucks will be over. I appreciate you listening and will continue to share my thoughts and feelings on the site as long as a Mod or Hostess is willing to listen.
@MsBrooklynA: You've made some really great points, I hope that the mod team actually takes what you have said to heart. I agree with everything you've said
@MsBrooklynA: You've made some really great points, I hope that the mod team actually takes what you have said to heart. I agree with everything you've said
@Ms Hedgehog: wow, not sure who pissed in your wheaties today, but I really don't think that was called for. Some really great things were brought up, and I think that the mod team being more transparent with updates/changes would help, since if we know what's going on (or why things are being postponed) posts like this wouldn't even need to happen
@MsBrooklynA: Thanks for your response! I agree that communication is essential to any relationship, and it would be really helpful for the hive to be in-the-know about things. We will definitely try to be more upfront about things as they arise in the future.
We could use a little help making sure we see suggestion/feedback/constructive criticism. I happened to be on this post so I saw your messages, but with so many posts on this site every day, we can't guarantee we'll see everything. We encourage you and any other members to flag posts that have content you'd especially like us to see. I know that "flagging" is usually seen as a negative thing, but it can also be a really helpful way to put content right in front of our faces. :)
You can also feel free to PM us if you have a particular concern that isn't being answered on the boards. We really don't ignore things; we just can't keep up with every single post.
Thanks again!
I would just like to chime in here. I take full blame on dropping the ball on this contest. I've organized these decorating contest in past and love doing them. Which is why I was the one who suggested and organized this contest. Unfortunately, things have not been well in my personal life. Not to get all in to it but my husband's health has declined and there were somedifficult changes at work that occurred about a week after I announced the contest. I thought this task was simple enough to handle. It wasn't. I had to take screenshots of every submission, place a caption, upload them onto a site that the hostesses could vote on. Oh, I had to organize them into logical categories too. It was about 50 pics I had to organize. Also, there were some technical difficulties with the upload site. Yes, I know all of this is just excuses. Yes, we are volunteer. So yes, we have to juggle our personal lives and WB. Also, I'm a mod. There have been a lot of resident trolls and we have to take care of them quickly.
So there are certain things that take precedent over others. Which is why I'm apologizing for the Halloween contest. I'm deeply sorry and embarrassed.
My commitment to WB is still as strong and I am still happy to be a part of this site. It gives me a distraction from my personal life. I'm here to stay.
I 've decided that I won't be organizing any future events. I'm hoping to pass my involvement in WB contests to another hostess.
As for the contest, we will be announcing the winners soon.
@yrret107: I don't think it's anything to be embarrassed about or put a self-ban on future participation for some events- we all get swamped by life at some point or another. I hope things calm down for you in the near future.
But I think@MsBrooklynA: has a good point - sometimes you just have to cut your losses. I've been a volunteer member for several clubs/organizations and this has happened to me too - you have so many things that people want done, plus the normal day-to-day, and you finally have to say x, y, and z would be nice, but just can't happen right now. I can see with all the changes going on mod-wise right now, that there are things much higher on the to-do list (and rightfully so).
Could some of these types of things be passed on to non-mods/hostesses? In the way that a waiting bee takes care of the waiting list? That's something that that group wants, but would take a lot of time out of a mod's week to pull together. Maybe for things like this that are non-essentials to the upkeep of the board, could be put together by members who want to participate. It's more likely to get done if someone who's really interested in it is heading it up vs. someone trying to get to it somewhere on their to-do list.
Didn't this happen last year as well? I recall some bees who won the contest mentioning they never received their t-shirt/prize.... did they end up getting them?
Perhaps it would be easier if Bees just posted their pictures in a thread and Hostesses could skim through it after the due date and pick a winner.
@hisgoosiegirl: In the way that a waiting bee takes care of the waiting list? *waves* That's me! Hehe
I just wanted to say I agree with you and @MsBrooklynA.
@MissBoPeep: I read it to see the new proposals, and I think you do a great job! And that's my point, maybe some of the non-technical stuff like contests and such can be handled by someone who really wants to take charge of it the way you have with the waiting list or some others have with weight-loss threads.
As for the waiting list, I don't think a hostess or mod is in charge of that list.
Im not sure, what else you are talking about for responsibilities to pass down to non-hostess/mod? If its any contest or swap related, a hostess has to organize so we can check for trolls and distribute prizes.
@CanadianMermaid: As for last years contest, I forwarded all of the addresses to eharmony and I thought it was taken care of. I did all I could on that end. We didnt realize until this contest was announced that the prizes were never sent. We plan on sending late prizes to last years winners, too.
@yrret107: no, I know it's a non-mod doing the waiting list.
I don't know much about swaps, but for contests that are pic-related, do like CanadianMermaid said, and have everbody post in the thread - make separate threads for separate categories if needed. That can all be run by a non-mod. Just have a mod make it a sticky if needed and then close it at the deadline. If hostesses need to vote, they can do so at that time and distribute prizes accordingly. It might not be as 'pretty' as organizing everything perfectly and having a separate gallery or the like for all the pictures - but it would get it done without a mod/hostess having to direct a lot of their time toward it.
@hisgoosiegirl: I was fully ready to take on the Halloween contest. Like I said above, I've enjoyed doing it in the past. I thought it was fun. I thought it was a great idea.
I'm not sure how many times you want me to apologize. I thought I could handle it and I'm sorry I was wrong.
@yrret107: I have never once said you needed to apologize. In fact, I said there was no need for you to be embarrassed about it. Life happens. I was only trying to offer suggestions that might help take some of the weight off your back going forward.
@yrret107: I don't think anyone is looking for an apology, we understand that your life got busier than anticipated and real life comes before the internet. @hisgoosiegirl: is trying to suggest a way to make it easier for the mods.
ETA: What @hisgoosiegirl: said.
@hisgoosiegirl: I've done the separate threads in the past. Also, I wasn't sure what kind of entries we would get. Would I get 4 in one category or 50 in another? I thought leaving it in one big thread would be easier in me and the hostesses. Plus, I didnt want 5 sticky threads up at the top since we try to limit the amount of threads stickied. There were many factors I have to consider.
@yrret107: Hey, your personnal life and your husbands health come first, no need to appologize. If you need any help, just PM me. I am SAHW now so I am totally free. I hope that your husband is feeling better and that your job is on a smoother track now, but I will still keep you all in my thoughts.
@tksjewelry: Thanks, I appreciate that. The Halloween contest is pretty much done. I just need to announce the winners and coordinate the the prizes. It was a simple task that I forgot about.
@linguo42: I understand what you all are saying but I also think you guys believe they have mor control over things that happen on this site than they do. The site is glitchy? That is tech. The annoying and, I agree, stupid add in the middle of the page we would all like gone? Admins. Mods and Hostesses are here to support us and help us with non crutial elements. How the site functions is for those that are being paid to maintain and keep the site running.
I don't see anyone blaming the mods and hostesses for anything, so not really sure why people are getting so defensive. Mods are our link to Admins and tech, as users of the site who devote time to being here. No one is saying "You guys suck, get your shit together!" or asking for apologies and groveling, again, not really sure why it's being taken that way. If no one ever spoke up we would not have new boards, new rules, new ToS, alternating weekly tips...
It's better to speak up and offer constructive input than complain all the time and have no ideas to back it up, right?
Any idea when the winners will be announced? I know you said it's pretty much done and you just have to announce the winners, so I was just wondering when that would be happening.
I'm writing the post as we speak.
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Just wondering lol because I havnt seen anything about it.