Post # 1
What does it mean to you to be a femimist?
I had a conversation with a friend of mine about Beyonce. Random I kmow, but my friend was disgusted by people calling beyonce a feminist idol. She said that all of her songs are about being feirce and stuff, and she did that pepsi commercial. I dont even know what any of that had to do with femimism, but it got me thimking.
Femimism to me means that men and women should be equal. I still believe in chivalry, I like to look pretty , II wear high heels. I dont think femininity needs be be sacraficed.
How about you? Ehat are your veiws on the subject? Is there anyone in the media who you feel takes feminism back to the stone age? Anyone who is too crazy abouy it?
Post # 3
I have no idea. So many women who label themselves as feminists have opposing views and it makes my head spin. Men and women are very different creatures, so I don’t think they should necessarily be equal. Should they have equal rights? Absolutely. Should I be treated exactly the same as a man? No, I don’t think so. Admittedly most women in the western world get away with a lot more than men. When was the last time you heard the phrase “gentlemen first”? Do men get their chairs pulled out for them at restaurants? Do bars offer a men’s night? I can’t speak for women in other parts of the world but my life experience here in America as a woman has given me nothing to complain about.
Post # 4
I def don’t think men and women are treated equally here in the US. I was just talking to my (feminist) husband about how, for instance, almost all movies are about men and men doing things with women as supportive roles or just there for romance– even movies like Pixar- have only had 1 movie starring a female.
Being a feminist to me is about promoting equality and making people become aware of male priviledge.
Post # 5
Feminism, for me, is having the freedom to choose how to live my life as a woman.
Post # 6
Annoying. The concept of feminism is so convoluted now. I loathe femnazis.
Post # 8
I think the feminist movement has hardened a lot of women… Zooey Deschanel said it perfectly…
“Being tender and open is beautiful. As a woman, I feel continually shhh’ed. Too sensitive. Too mushy. Too wishy washy. Blah blah. Don’t let someone steal your tenderness. Don’t allow the coldness and fear of others to tarnish your perfectly vulnerable beating heart. Nothing is more powerful than allowing yourself to truly be affected by things. Whether it’s a song, a stranger, a mountain, a rain drop, a tea kettle, an article, a sentence, a footstep, feel it all – look around you. All of this is for you. Take it and have gratitude. Give it and feel love.”
There’s a way for women to fight for appreciation equal rights… Different but equal. Venus and Mars. But so far I’ve been left disappointed with the way women just seem to slip into a more calloused, closed off (more stereotypically masculine) persona to command respect or hold authority. Feminism should be about liberating women to be girly and emotional and tender if that’s how they are. It should be about appreciation of a feminine spirit, not simply allowing women to become men.
Post # 9
Feminism is a new trend in making women manlike.
I don’t disagree with women having equal human rights, but love a more traditional life. I have no problem with the woman owning the household domain: raise children, cook meals, oversee the house being taken care of, etc. I feel like feminism has caused this to be looked down upon. And this annoys me.
However… if a woman wants to go into the workforce, have a nanny raise her children, etc. I don’t mind her having that choice. I would just never choose that option for myself. And I don’t like that feminists make this seem like a poor choice.
Post # 10
@Little_Hedgy: Feminism at this point is such a jumbled mess it is ridiculous. We want equality, yet we are disgusted when a man only pays for his half of the meal. We fight to be able to dress how we please, yet women who decide to doll themselves up are “weak”.
Feminism, to me, is having choices and having the right to make those choices. If I want to be a stay-at-home-mom, then good for me. If I want to not have kids and have a career and run my house then I can do that too.
Post # 11
@Miss Circe: +1. this is exactly what i was going to say.
Post # 12
I disagree that feminism is about making women manlike. Sure, there are definitely women who take it to that extreme, but I think at its root, feminism was and is simply about choice and equality. It’s easy to take it for granted, but it was only a couple generations ago that women didn’t really HAVE choices. You went to school (but very rarely college), lived at home until you got married, then stayed at home as a homemaker/SAHM. Is there anything wrong with this life? Not if you want it. But if that’s not the life you wanted, there weren’t many other options available to you.
As a modern feminist, I recognize that we’ve progressed by leaps and bounds, but still think we live in a man’s world and that there’s progress yet to be made.
Post # 14
@QueenieB: Feminism is not about making women more manlike. It’s about women being considered equal to men.
Post # 15
@CreatureFromTheBlackLagoon: Pretty much this.
There’s no such thing as equality. Chivalry and equality are not mutually exclusive. If a man is bending over backwards to be chivalrous to you, you and he are not on equal footing. (Note: “Being nice to one another” and “Chivalry” are not the same.)
There will always be sexism, inequality and racism, because that’s how humans are hardwired. Women are not willing to give up a lot of the common luxuries they have because they are a woman in the name of equality.
I support people thinking and doing for themselves, but the word “feminist” rubs me the wrong way. Just be who you are — Don’t slap a label on it.