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After joining the bee, I hear(actually read) so many "that would be a dealbreaker for me"'. It got me thinking, "whats my dealbreakers?". Hmmm, well I would like to say cheating, but just KNOW in my heart that is not true. It would really depend on the situation, how long we are together, how many times, who with, why, and so on, and so forth. So really, I LOVE my SO so much. We have gone through our ups, and our downs, through accidents, birth, recovery, fights ( and I mean FIGHTS), laughs, support, smiles, death, tears, and the TMI stuff. So I like to think there would be no "deal breaker" for us. That no matter what happened, or what he did, I don't think I could just get up and leave over one certain situation. If he left me however, thats another story, I couldn't possibly just jump in his back pocket and follow him wherever he may go...
So there you have it. As of right now there is no absolute "dealbreaker" for me.
Whats yours?
im with you... i dont think i have a dealbreaker.... i believe that we could work through anything together. now if working through the problem failed... then we could talk about breaking deals :)
EDIT: i must say that physical or verbal abuse would be a no no for me... i just dont think people like that change or deserve my help and time in order for a change to happen. but my fi is awesome and doesnt beat me sooo..... lol!!!
If he voted for Palin.....
If he had an affair with someone and it was an actual relationship....
If he decided to pick up hunting or abused an animal...
If he decided he wanted children for sure....
I'm just kidding(ish) about the Palin one :P, but the two middle ones would be instant dealbreakers and the last one would be heartbreaking but I've gone down that rode before and the marriage ended for basically that reason. :(
Everything else is pretty forgivable, I think.
@stephanie63087: I hear ya on the if the problem weren't fixed thing. Glad to hear I'm not the only "non deal breaker" here on the bee!
@luckyprincess: Well You would not be with my guy, lemme tell ya! haha. He loves Palin, and he loves hunting! haha, jk, about the Palin part!
I have a few deal breakers:
I have been in relationships that included the above deal breakers, and they were not fixable, nor forgivable. I have to be able to trust my man, and if he violates that trust, all bets are off. And I would expect the same of him.
for me the dealbreaker would be violence/abuse or if i found out he ever laid a hand (sexually) on a child/kiddy porn obsession (not that he would but we are talking dealbreakers)
I think luckyprincess has already named the only two dealbreakers I can possibly think of...if he abused animals/took up hunting or if he had an affair that was some actual relationship. Pretty much everything else I can imagine dealing with and working with him to fix.
Dealbreakers:
Abuse/neglect
Drugs
Cigarettes
Cheating
(and if he were registered to vote in the USA, I'd have to agree with @luckyprincess...
)
Hmmm.
-if he didn't want to have kids
-was abusive/violent/emotionally draining
-hurt children/animals (not including hunting)
-did not have the same goals and ambitions as me
I don't know what to think about cheating. It has never happened to me, and FI would absolutely never even put himself in a position that would be questionable, so I have no worries about it, and personally don't know how I would react if it were to ever come up.
Also, if my FI wasn't actively trying to kick his tobacco habit, I would have a serious problem with it, and it probably wouldn't end well.
@Cash000: I think everyone has dealbreaks. If he were to hurt you or your child, would you stay with him? That would be a dealbreaker...
Mine are:
i would have to say that cheating (whether it be once or more than once) and abuse of any kind would be deal breakers for me
cheating
abuse
dishonesty
sex offender
For those that list "hunting", please go read the the Regarding Hunting thread. Unless you want to marry a vegetarian/vegan; I would applaud a man for hunting and bringing home the healthiest, most humane meat possible to him and his family. If someone eats meat, it makes zero sense to be against hunting.
Physical abuse or deciding he doesn't want children are the only two I can think of. I'm a democrat and he's a republican so I find the Palin dealbreakers funny. We just do not discuss politics EVER, we disagree so fundamentally on almost every issue that a polite discussion is impossible.
"Hmmm, well I would like to say cheating, but just KNOW in my heart that is not true. It would really depend on the situation, how long we are together, how many times, who with, why, and so on, and so forth..../ So I like to think there would be no "deal breaker" for us. That no matter what happened, or what he did, I don't think I could just get up and leave over one certain situation."
I agree!!! And it's nice to hear someone else say it! I love him. He loves me. I never have to doubt anything, we have fun together...he's just great. I can't imagine any thing at this point making me think "nope, I'm done".
I would have to say cheating is one of my main dealbreakers. I've had a cheater before.. and I feel like if he does it once, he'll do it again. That's been my experience, anyway. I wouldn't be able to look at my SO the same afterwards. It's the toughest thing to get through, because you have to look at him and think of him being with someone else in a way that you thought was only for you. I think we as women let our emotional attachments get more involved than our common sense and stay in relationships with cheaters faaarrr too much. It's sad because if it is the female who cheats, usually the guy doesn't think twice. He's out. And to me, that's smart.
Abuse (physical & emotional) is also a dealbreaker. I've also had an abusive relationship-- I've just done it all, huh? LoL. But yeah, not going down that road again.
@CaitMarae: ditto! Your list is exactly the list i was thinking - including the j/k republican bit. i think LOTS of things are forgivable, but some things just are not. if i found out my husband was a murderer, rapist, pedophile, Id be out in an instant. Those are extremes, but i would have absolutely no problem leaving my husband if i found out he was a predator of any variety. I dont really believe in unconditional love between spouses though...I love my husband, but there are definitely conditions.
Cheating, if he ever decided he didn't want kids, or if he ever was abusive in any way. Those are my three.
Trust in a marriage is an absolute must. If something happened to take that trust away (if he was abusive, cheated, lied on important things, etc) then that's a dealbreaker to me. I'm not saying I wouldn't take time to think it through, I'm just saying that if I didn't feel that complete trust was achievable after something like that happened, then I wouldn't be able to stay. The less trust there is, the less sharing there is, the easier it is to grow an uncrossable chasm between you.
Hmm, I am not sure! Most of those qualities listed above are so far removed from FI's character that the thought is almost laughable right now, as I am sure it is for you ladies too!
Regarding cheating, I am not sure. If I found out he was carrying on a relationship, I love you's, etc. with someone I think I would be gone. If he gets drunk and kisses another girl, I think it would break my heart, but I don't think I would leave. Who knows though, maybe you have to be in that situation to know?
Smoking! That's a totla dealbreaker for me.
Mr. G has super asthma though so luckily he should never pick up the habit!
@msgiraffe: Ditto!! I was just going to post that :) Smoking is definitely a deal breaker for me. Whether it's cigarettes or anything else...
Does this thread make anyone else think of 30 Rock, when Liz does the "That's a dealbreaker, ladies!" show and book? Hehe!
At first I was going to say I don't have any dealbreakers, but then I realized I do have one. If he were to become abusive, I would leave. I would pack up my fur-babies, and I would leave without a second thought. I would miss him, but I wouldn't look back, because I've been abused before and won't go through it again.
However, I know Jim, I know his character, I know how much he loves me, and I know that he would NEVER become abusive. So I don't need any dealbreakers with him.
I don't think cheating would be 100% a deal breaker for me-- I think before we were engaged, it definitely would have been. But the more we get into our life together, the more it would take for me to leave. If he got an STD/ STI or got another women pregnant, obviously that would make the decision a little easier. But I think that if any of that were to happen, it would be situational for me and at this point, I can't say that I definitely would leave or that I definitely would stay. It would depend on how long we've been together/ married, what our life looks like, and if we have children. There are a lot of things to consider, and to me, it's not just cut and dry.
I also think addiction wouldn't be a deal breaker, right off the bat, either. I am committing to him through thick and thin, and I think that it would be my role as his wife to try to support him, get him into rehab and on his way to sobriety. Obviously, if it extremely affected our finances or if he put our (future) children in danger, that would make things clearer, but again, same as cheating, it's not just cut and dry.
If he wants to hunt, he can hunt legally... but only if he is not going to be wasteful-- you know? Use all the meat and everything else that can be used. But I don't want to hear about it, see it or be around it.
Dealbreakers: I think any type of abusive towards myself or our (future) children. Any other obvious felonies (child molestation, rape, kidnapping, murder, etc). If he decided he didn't want kids-- I don't know that I would be able to give up that dream if he asked me to.
@abbyful: re: the hunting comment : Have I mentioned that I love you lately?
My deal breakers include:
-abuse (emotional, physical etc) of myself or our child(ren)
-cheating/continued infidelity (though this would not be 100% -would be dependant on the situation)
-lying (about big things, not flippant things)
-allowing an addiction or habit to consume life (gambling, alcohol/drug abuse etc that he was unwilling to deal with, improve or adjust)-- though I am with JeniMichele on this, it is not so cut and dry.
-inability or unwilligness to be respectful or involved in the family/personal relationship (neglect)
@menobride: Lol!
I'd say anything that turns him into a person I no longer recognize, This include cheating, abuse, drugs, smoking., lack of ambition.....
Oh in response to the whole predator thing, I have to agree. I can't believe I never even thought of this. If my SO ever ( which I know he would not, but just saying) touched a person/animal, inappropriately, all deals would be off immedietly. Also if he abused a child/woman/handicap in an emotional, physical, or sexual way. (Which again I know he would not). Murder would also be a dealbreaker. Now this is extreme, and I know it would never happen, but in the case of breaking deals, then thats where I stand. Addiction, I could deal with, as long as he was willing to change, and get some professional help.
I am a vegetarian. Don't eat meat. Don't wear leather. Don't wear suede. Wouldn't be caught dead in fur (that's also because I follow fashion, though) and would never, ever, ever look twice at a guy that hunted. I find it to be a huge character flaw. For me. I think most people that listed that already know exactly what hunting is and don't agree with it. Just wanted to throw that out there since the arguments to hunt mean nothing to me and I see it brought up a lot. But I really think that if someone feels so strongly about it having someone say 'but I like to see it die! It's healthier!' or something isn't going to change their mind ;)
And on topic, I guess I have to amend my list to include abuse of me or any other kind of predator action, like was mentioned above. I'd be out. (I'm continually surprised though, by women who stay with men that are convicted of rape or murder...what the hell is their dealbreaker??)
Definitely abuse of any kind against anyone. But now if he went after say, someone who raped/murdered me or his mom or my mom, dads, SILs, brothers, that might be a different story. He is not a violent man. But I can't say that he wouldn't go after someone who hurt people he loves.
@luckyprincess: Yeah. This. Thank you. I wasn't going to open that can of worms, but since she did, I have to jump in and say I agree with you. I've been a vegetarian since I was 8 and a vegan since I was 13. I grew up in an area where we got the first day of deer hunting season off school--there are lots of hunters in my hometown. I'm very, very aware of what hunting is and how hunters defend their hobby, but in my eyes, harming and/or killing an animal for pleasure is wrong and gross and I could never be with someone who enjoyed that. Period.
@sassy411: That's exactly what I was going to say! That covers it all.
@luckyprincess - I don't want to hijack this thread, so if you want to discuss hunting please use the "Regarding Hunting" thread. However, I've seen your comments and other comments from people "against hunting", and no, I really don't think you understand it or the ramifications if it wasn't done.
My deal breakers:
-Cheating
-Cigarettes
-Drug/alcohol abuse
-Animal cruelty
-Abuse
-Not wanting children
I agree about the smoking and the hunting or harming an animal. I don't have much of a problem with hunting if it is for food but hanging a dead animals head on the wall is really sickening, and anyone who calls it a sport should maybe be chased around with a gun for an afternoon. To me a sport is something between two fairly evenly matched opponents. But, I digress...I wouldn't date/marry someone interested in hunting, and smoking is just gross. Anyone who would hurt a pet isn't someone I'd even want to know.
I'm an ecology student, so yes, I understand it better than most. No, that doesn't change it since I have seen with my own two eyes what hunters really do and that they actually 'get off' on causing the pain of/ending the life of another living being. Natural predators are the best ecological pressure - not a bunch of blood thirsty, violent and misguided sexually perverse and sadomasochistic degenerates running around shooting animals in the effort to watch them bleed to death in the dirt.
Thanks, though.
I couldn't agree more. I have an uncle who hunts. He gets a gleem in his eye when he talks about the bear he killed. He didn';t eat it, he killed it for the challenge. I'm not really sure what kind of challenge it was, since the bear had no opportunity to run or defend itself, let alons=e shoot back. I find this behavoir repulsive.
And, I've seen hunting shows on tv (though I usually can't wait to turn them off). The hunters usually talk about how beautiful the animal is, right before they shoot it. Sometimes while said hunter is hidden in the dark and the animal is just hanging out chewing on grass, in its own habitat.
And as far as including this in this thread...well, I guess I'd say this is a public forum and if someone wants to post that hunting turns them off, I don't think it's anyone else's place to tell her she needs to put it in another thread. I believe said poster started a thread about what kind of meats people eat and then got on her high horse about hunting. Maybe the topic of which meats you eat doesn't belong on a wedding board. But, that's not for me to decide any more than it is for said poster to decide where someone else can post.
Thanks menobride! Yes, I agree - it belongs here because I would not let a hunter buy me a drink, take me out or marry me - so its a huge dealbreaker. Nice to know I'm not alone ! :)
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