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What To Expect on the Wedding Night - 1894

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    Leahhh    September 14, 2013   Tacoma, WA

    So, I was trying to look for helpful information for one of the posters here... and found this instead.

    http://www.trygve.com/youngbride.html

    I'm pretty shocked by what I'm reading. I'm such a slut by these standards! ;) haha. But is this for real?! They make sex sound so terrible. LOL. How could anyone adhere to these?

     

     

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    "One cardinal rule of marriage should never be forgotten: GIVE LITTLE, GIVE SELDOM, AND ABOVE ALL, GIVE GRUDGINGLY. Otherwise, what could have been a proper marriage could become an orgy of sexual lust."

    "As soon as the husband has completed the act the wise wife will start nagging him about various minor tasks she wishes him to perform on the 'morrow. Many men obtain a major portion of their sexual satisfaction from the peaceful exhaustion immediately after the act is over. Thus the wife must insure that there is no peace in this period from him to enjoy. Otherwise, he might be encouraged to soon try for more."

    "While sex is at best revolting and at worse rather painful, it has to be endured, and has been by women since the beginning of time, and is compensated for by the monogamous home and by the children produced through it."

     
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    Mrs.tobe    September 30, 2011   the middle of there

    "On the negative side, there is the wedding night, during which the bride must pay the piper, so to speak, by facing for the first time the terrible experience of sex."

    Holy snapola. What?!

    Daaaang!

     
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    Eva Peron    November 2011  

    Well I can see why whore houses were so popular!

    I don't know what church these people went to....

     
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    Leahhh    September 14, 2013   Tacoma, WA

    @Eva Peron: For real!

     
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    auggiefrog    August 25, 2012   Wauwatosa, WI

    @Eva Peron: I second that!

    I wonder who wrote this....  

     
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    MsPanda    August 17, 2013   Oregon

    OMG... Why? 

     
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    Coffee cup    December 7, 2012   Sonora, Mexico

    You got to be kidding me.. So the hole in the sheet thing was real?!

     
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    LaviniaRose2013    April 27, 2013  

    hahahahah I know I should not laugh but that is just the most ridiculous stuff I have EVER read!!!  The poor women of that era!!  

    @auggiefrog: Probably a bitter matron of society who's husband did his deed very quickly and then left her for his mistress(es).

     

    Romance novels make it sound SO much better.  I'll stick with those.  Who is with me on that one?

     
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    HappilyEverAfter54    June 23, 2012   Central Pennsylvania

    =-O

     
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    Mrs.Estep    December 11, 2010   VA

    Clever wives are ever on the alert for new and better methods of denying and discouraging the amorous overtures of the husband. A good wife should expect to have reduced sexual contacts to one a week by the end of the first year of marriage.


    What the hell?

    Uhm, no sorry. I love sex with my husband! Yes, I do! So what.. Now I am a bad wife? Not if you ask him! ;)

    By the tenth anniversary many wives have managed to complete their child bearing and have achieved the ultimate goal of terminating all sexual contacts with the husband. By this time she can depend upon his love for the children and social pressure to hold the husband in the home.


    My mom & step dad have been married over 10 years & have a 9 year old child. They still get it on. lol & I am sure she enjoys it. (Cringes a little typing that.) lmao

    A wise bride will make it her goal never to allow her husband to see her unclothed body, and never allow him to display his unclothed body to her. Sex, when it cannot be prevented, should be practiced only in total darkness. Many women have found it useful to have thick cotton nightgowns for themselves and pajamas for their husbands. These should be donned in seperate rooms. They need not be removed during the sex act. Thus, a minimum of flesh is exposed.


    Uhm, is this person SERIOUS? Why the hell is it bad for my husband to touch or see my flesh? I don't know weather to crack up at this or be aggatated.

    She will be absolutely silent or babble about her housework while he is huffing and puffing away. Above all, she will lie perfectly still and never under any circumstances grunt or groan while the act is in progress.


    I'm sorry but this is not possible for me at all. Even IF I wanted to which I DON'T I couldn't lie there completely silent while my husband pounds away at my lady parts.

    One heartening factor for which the wife can be grateful is the fact that the husband's home, school, church and social environment have been working together all through his life to instill in him a deep sense of guilt in regardst to his sexual feelings, so that he comes to the marriage couch apologetically and subdued. The wise wife seizes upon this advantage and relentlessly pursues her goal first to limit, later to annihilate completely, her husband's desire for sexual expression.


    Uhm, my goal is most certianly not to have my husband not want me? What wife wants their husband to NOT want them?? HELLO????


     
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    Coffee cup    December 7, 2012   Sonora, Mexico

    @LaviniaRose2013: I am.. Yaay for novels!

    My cousin has this friend who claims his parents never kissed in the mouth (at least in fron of the kids), the dad just kissed the mom in the forehead and they never hugged or anything.

     
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    Leahhh    September 14, 2013   Tacoma, WA

    @Mrs.Estep:LOL right??? Especially on the nakedness part. I'm such a nudist at heart.

    ETA: also, imagine the reaction if you were to talk about inane things during sex. OMG. how awful. That's worse than being silent. haha.

     
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    Carnival_Bride    December 2012   Mid-Atlantic

    Not to threadjack, but did you check out the sites other links? There's one on how "Your Favorite Lucky Charms Shape Controls Your Sex Life."

    The Young Bride article was a good laugh--I had to read it outload to FI because I was cracking up.

     
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    Mrs.Estep    December 11, 2010   VA

    @Leahhh: YES! lol I wish the ones who wrote that could be here for a week. Their poor faces when my husband's bonger pokes at their face while he walks to the kitchen for some pop. LMAO 

     
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    Mrs.Estep    December 11, 2010   VA

    @Leahhh: Hahahaha!

     
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    LaviniaRose2013    April 27, 2013  

    Well now we know how syphilis could have become rampant in those days.  SMH.

     

    I'd love to see them try to be still and quiet... Can you say AWKWARD?!  Probably the most awkward sex ever.

     
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    Coffee cup    December 7, 2012   Sonora, Mexico

    @Carnival_Bride: I never have Lucky Charms =S. How can I know??!! Lol

     
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    LaviniaRose2013    April 27, 2013  

    "Oh darling Mr. E, could you move your arm?  It's on my hair.  As an aside, what did you think of the draperies in the drawing room?  They are new, you know.  Also, did you think Cook's veal was a trifle off tonight?  I will have to have a talk with her on the morrow about efficiency.  I have been looking over the household accounts, and I believe we can spare enough to redo the gardens overlooking the terrace.  What are your thoughts?"

     

    That sounds like the most horrible sex EVER.

     
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    MsPanda    August 17, 2013   Oregon

    @Carnival_Bride: I did laugh at this but it was kinda true... lol

     
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    adnama    July 21, 2012   Langley, Britsh Columbia

    Hhahahahahaaa! This is just hilarious! Those poor women! And their poor husbands.

     
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    Coffee cup    December 7, 2012   Sonora, Mexico

    @LaviniaRose2013: Lol I read that in a british accent. Yes WORST sex ever.

     
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    Mrs.Estep    December 11, 2010   VA

    @LaviniaRose2013: LMAO! Oh my gosh. hahahaha How could someone even stay hard during THAT? I wouldn't even call that sex. I just couldn't. hahaha

     
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    LaviniaRose2013    April 27, 2013  

    @Coffee cup: haha can you tell I am well versed in romance novels?  That must mean I'm the pink heart of the lucky charms!

     
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    LaviniaRose2013    April 27, 2013  

    @Mrs.Estep: Absolutely the reason they all had mistresses and diseases.  My favorite though is when the matron/writer tells the girls not to let their husbands "mouth" them.  I died.  I sure hope Mr. LR doesn't ever just "mouth" me

     
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    Coffee cup    December 7, 2012   Sonora, Mexico

    @LaviniaRose2013: Oh I live and die with Jane Austen's novels, those stories where the best thing you'll read is they holding hands.

    I don't know which marshmallow I am though, I'm not that into romance in bed, lol.

     
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    LaviniaRose2013    April 27, 2013  

    @Coffee cup: Yeah me either.  I didn't see anything for the rainbow marshmallow, so I've decided that's what I am!  

     
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    aprose    May 19, 2013   oregon

    well i will just stick to my dirty smut books. they make it sound so much better! lol

     
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    lawschool bride    August 13, 2011  

    might not be legit... 

    http://www.snopes.com/weddings/newlywed/advice.asp

    thinking about whether they actually had lights does make me think haha.   I hope it isn't legit, that'd be crazy!

     
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    Leahhh    September 14, 2013   Tacoma, WA

    @LaviniaRose2013: Reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGWhLTipGPc

     

    "Instead of the silent treatment, she's giving me the talk-until-I-want-to-commit-suicide treatment."

     
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    Sasha2011    July 30, 2011   Toronto

    "The wise wife seizes upon this advantage and relentlessly pursues her goal first to limit, later to annihilate completely, her husband's desire for sexual expression."

    OMG! OMG! That's so depressing! Cry

     
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    Lala61111    June 11, 2011  

    "While sex is at best revolting and at worse rather painful, it has to be endured, and has been by women since the beginning of time, and is compensated for by the monogamous home and by the children produced through it."

     

    OMG I am laughing so hard right now!!!!!!!! I am sending this to my husband, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

    You just made my Friday morning. Cheers! *raises coffee cup*

     
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    Future MrsB    May 27, 2012   Live outside Boston, Wedding in Saratoga NY

    I thought the part about the wedding night where the bride should stay silent in the dark and then might luck out if the groom stumbled and hurt himself so she could get out of it was pretty funny. 

     

     
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    Sasha2011    July 30, 2011   Toronto

    "My cousin has this friend who claims his parents never kissed in the mouth (at least in fron of the kids), the dad just kissed the mom in the forehead and they never hugged or anything."

    My DH's elder bro and wife are actually like this. Lol! They are not that much older than us. (Just by 3 years!) However the hubby is an orthodox and a half and the wife is a village idiot. (I am sorry to be saying that because it is, in fact, detrimental to ME because she never wants to have any kind of relationship with a 'heathen' like myelf). So they NEVER touch each other in front of anyone. NO PDA whatsoever. Not even accidental!

    Whenever DH and I went over to their place, I also kinda pushed him off me if he wanted to hug, touch, kiss me, etc. (I stopped doing that shortly after but not without feeling like a COMPLETE ASS for trying to conform to someone else's standards.)

    But whether the article is true or not, ppl like this DO still exist, even in the modern day North American culture! Undecided

     
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    Minutiae    May 2011  

    @lawschool bride: I was going to say, I read two sentences of that and immediately thought it had to be a parody!

     
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    futureMrsMason    October 6, 2012   Georgia

    @Mrs.Estep: "I'm sorry but this is not possible for me at all. Even IF I wanted to which I DON'T I couldn't lie there completely silent while my husband pounds away at my lady parts." LMAOOO. Love the way you worded that!

     
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    hisgoosiegirl    June 18, 2011  

    @lawschool bride: yeah I got about 3 sentences in and thought it had to be a joke. People from that era wouldn't talk that way -especially about sex.It would have been all 'marital relations, conjugal relations, womanly duty' and such. That and the whole 'headaches, sleep' as excuses. Women would have been expected to 'do their duty' not slither out of it.

    Funny read though.

     
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    mink    June 2012   Charlottesville, Virginia

    It's some sort of direction given by a reverend in the "Arcadian Methodist Church."  Never ever heard of that.  Perhaps they all died out soon after 1894?

     

     
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    jocember    August 17, 2013   Syracuse, NY

    There was a huge anti-sexuality movement in the 1800's that was fueled by the belief that social morals and values were threatened by the enjoyment of sex by ANYONE. In fact, the reason graham crackers and other bland foods were invented was part of a theory that exotic/spicy food led people to have sexual cravings/desires. It's rather fascinating, but also quite sad. Men and women of the time were urged and pressured by society to suppress and even loathe their sexual desires and appetites.

    This doesn't surprise me, though I will say it's probable that MOST people of the time did not adhere to such nonsense. Sex has always happened and always been enjoyed :) Just have to remember that publications of a time don't fully represent the reality.

     
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    mink    June 2012   Charlottesville, Virginia

    It's a hoax, it seems. 

    One person thinks it's no more than 30-40 years old.  They couldn't find any reference to that church being in existence at the time when the piece was supposedly written. 

    See: http://themediadesk.com/newfiles2/youngbride.htm

     

     
    Here's a blog post about it and a quote:

    http://bookstoysgames.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/the-amazing-mrs-ruth-smythers/

    "The Methodist Church didn’t have an Eastern Regional Conference in 1894, and there was no Arcadian Methodist Church in it, and there was no Rev. L.D. Smythers to be in such a church if it existed. The “Madison Institute“, which allegedly published this in its newsletter, doesn’t seem to have published anything else.

    Additionally, there are a number of textual clues that indicted that it was not written in 1894. One clue is that she speaks of turning out the lights in 1894: back then lights were usually put out (think about candles and gas lamps, instead of electric lights.) Also, a Methodist minister’s wife would not call marriage a “sacrament.” Protestants have only two sacraments: Baptism and the Lord’s Supper."

     
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    sarahbabs    September 8, 2012   NYC, wedding in the Hudson Valley

    @mink: Thank God that was not real.  I was very depressed for anyone who read that (or was married to someone who did!)

     

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