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One argument I have never understood personally is "but no one will know who the bride is!" if she refuses to wear white or if the couple doesn't have introductions at the reception (with the same people in attendance at the ceremony) or whatever the case may be where they choose to stray from tradition. The people up front saying vows are pretty hard to miss and if they don't know the couple, they shouldn't have been invited.
Following that vein, the guests not knowing who the couple is. Guests should be your nearest and dearest whom you can't imagine the day without. Not everyone wants or can afford to have random strangers in attendance.
Guests requiring dates in order to be able to enjoy themselves. Unless the couple is the only people that a guest knows, surely there will be at least one other person, if not more, that the guest knows and can socialize with.
I'm sure there are others that escape me at the moment. What things have you come across that you don't understand the logic of?
I've never understood the "tradition" of the bride's family paying for the wedding. I mean, the groom is getting married just as much as the bride is. Why isn't his family expected/encouraged to contribute?
On another related money issue I don't get parents who are paying for the wedding so they want everything their way. If you want to be generous and help pay, do so but don't use money as a way to control the event. You had your wedding and this is not your round 2.
The tradition of the bride's family stems from the days when marriages were nothing more than business contracts. Yes the groom got married too but that wasn't how the business aspect of it worked. Like many traditions from that time frame, it hasn't disappeared like it should. But yes, if you are old enough to get married, you are old enough to pay for it yourselves. Parents should not use that as a means to control the planning aspects. They already got married themselves so let the couple do their own thing since you only get one chance at it.
The expense is ridiculous for saying the word wedding, some venues charge twice as much for a wedding as they would for a corporate meeting.
The brides family paying... Way outdated.
But you HAVE to wear white, you won't look like a bride in any other color.
The people who say if "so and so" is coming I don't need an invite.
I don't understand brides who get bent SO out of shape if someone else wears white to their wedding. Yes, it is in poor taste, and it reflects poorly on the wearer, but everyone is going to know who the bride is, and it's not worth getting upset over.
I don't get when vendors charge double or more for services when they find out that it's for a wedding.
It makes no sense to me when parents insist on inviting all of these people who don't know the couple and who the couple don't know.
I'm sure there are a lot more, but it's early and I'm still not fully awake.
I've never understood the traditional superstition that if you cut or break a ribbon from a shower present, you're going to get pregnant. I guess it's supposed to be cute, but my friends and I have just ended up looking ridiculous opening presents because we're trying to do it ever so gingerly.
I don't understand parents wanting to invite people who don't even know the bride and groom.
I don't understand some people's fixation on tradition...for example, my mother apparently thinking there is something wrong with me because I don't want an engagement ring. The horror!
Something I never really noticed until I joined weddingbee, but am baffled by, is women who are so fixated on getting engaged, dropping hints, trying to figure out when the proposal will happen, etc. Why is it such a huge issue? Why can't you just be with your BF and be happy, whether you're engaged or not? No offense to anyone here...I just don't get it.
1. MOHs. I have my brothers and sister-in-law (brother's wife) standing up for me, and my FMIL keeps asking me who my MOH is. I tell her "I don't have one. All three are equal". She keeps INSISTING that I need to have a MOH, but when I ask why, she can't come up with any other reason than it's a "tradition". Um.... I'm having 2 guys standing up for me, I think tradition is out the window at this point.
2. To continue on this point: Having all female BM and all male GM. Unless the closest people to you are actually all the same sex, I don't understand why you have to un-include your oposite sex friends/family from your bridal party just because they don't wear a dress. Never made ANY sense to me.
3. Having everyone buy the same outfit. The only reason people can give me for this is that it will look better in the pictures. My opinion is that if someone gets to choose their own outfit, they will probably feel better in it and therefore look better in the pictures. Plus, they'll probably actually wear it again, which is a plus for everyone!
4. Addressing envelopes "Mr. and Mrs. Husband's Full Name". I just can't get over the fact that the woman in the relationship doesn't even get her name on the invite. Once again, I was told this was the "traditional way to address an envelope". We compromised on "Husband First and Wife First Last Name"
I have about 100 more. We're having a fairly unconventional wedding because a lot of wedding-related things make no sense to me...
The supersticious tradtions, especially the bouquet toss and (Yuck!) sleeping with a piece of the wedding cake under you pillow.
It REALLY bothers me how many people we've ended up inviting that we barely know (or don't know at all). For example, when FI was going through his mother's list, there was a last name on there that he did not even recognize! His mother insisted they be invited but honestly when I asked him who they were he had not a clue! Finally, after talking to him mom he "thinks he knows who they are" and "thinks he's met them once. Um what? Seriously? This is supposed to be about people who are CLOSE to us. Not people we may or may not have ever met!
It also bothers me that FFIL keeps saying there's all these people from work he needs to invite. To be fair, FI and FFIL work together but FI isn't close to these people and let's be honest here people, weddings are EXPENSIVE!
I also don't like the whole the bride can't see the groom the night before the wedding. I honestly don't get it. Who cares? I know the tradition of where it came from but this is 2010! Time to break some traditions.
@Treasure43: Not seeing the groom before the wedding I think is sweet and builds up anticipation for the next day not like you need more, but its still sweet.
@Chipmunk: Yes, if a single person does that, they supposedly dream of their future spouse. (And then have time the next day to think about the dream while washing their sheets.)
There are quite a few things!
I don't understand why brides get so bent if another person they know or are related to gets engaged/has a wedding around the same time as theirs. Every wedding is unique and nobody owns their dates/venue/guest list.
I will never understand why people let others tell them what to do, what to wear, or who to invite. If you don't like the dress, don't buy it just because Mom likes it. If you don't want children at your wedding, don't have them. It is not for other people to say that weddings are about family, or you should have a white dress. Do your wedding as YOU want it. Your wedding is about you and your husband to be. I cannot believe how many times I have read that someone wrote kids names into an invite. That is just plain rude and ignorant.
I don't understand in this day and age why anyone would expect their parents to pay for their wedding. That tradition came about long ago, before women worked.
Parents not only paid but women came into the marriage knowing their husbands had been paid to take them. I think it is great for parents to help out if they want to and can, but to expect it?
I don't understand why women "hint" at engagements or other things with men, then get mad when men don't get it. Well, men usually DON'T get hints, and honestly, do you want to spend your life with poor communication in your relationship? If you want something, ask for it- no whining or yelling, how about a conversation?
Finally, I absolutely DESPISE it when men say "the wife". I didn't realize getting married made you an object, with no name. I have always hated this, it makes me nuts.
Oh yes, and I personally really don't like paper bells, doves, and any other "traditional" decoration, but see number 2- do/have the things they way you want!
LOL- I think I have PMS today!
Another thing that I'm not a huge fan of is the clinking of glasses. FI's family has started doing this at dinners and I have a feeling by the end of the night I'm going to be all clinked out :-P
@Chipmunk: I think I'm more confused by how adament people get that you shouldn't see the groom before the wedding. Sure it's a sweet idea, but that doesn't mean it's a big deal if the couple doesn't want to do it.
I wanted to hug my photographer when we were talking about the "First Look." He said that a bride told him she didn't want to see the groom until the walk down the aisle because it's "Christian tradition." My photographer- who is a Christian man himself- said he had to bite his tongue so he wouldn't say..."No...it's not a Christian tradition. It's just a tradition. From the days of arranged marriage."
It's not just older traditions that don't make sense to me, but also some newer trends:
I have seen so many brides online making personalized labels for the bottles of water in out of town bags. I know everyone has different priorities for personalizing their wedding, but spending money and spare time on re-labeling water bottles? Confusing to me. (Although, I guess the same could be said of invitations or programs...)
I'm also really confused by this trend of posing with fake mustaches. I guess it's supposed to be silly, but a picture of a group of women with faux facial hair...not my sense of humor, haha.
@ChaiAnkh99: I'm with you. I never was aware of the "waiting" phenomenon. I mean, the boy and I discussed engagement before it happened (as I think that every couple should) but I never dreamed of joining a wedding community to discuss waiting to get engaged.
Like you, I don't mean to offend anyone. I don't have a problem with it. I just don't understand it.
I didn't join the boards because I was waiting, I was helping a friend plan her wedding and have just stuck around. I am by no means a hint dropper. But I get the waiting board, the hint droppers, the everything. We need to vent. The guy has all the control and even if he says hes on it, he often isn't. Some of us have been with our SOs longer than some of the married bees in this community. Girls who get engaged quickly don't even realize how years start to drag on because he hasn't done it.
And on that note, I don't get the advice to propose to the guy. (I'm just saying people who advise other bees to do it, not people who did this), There are so few relationships where the guy would be okay with the woman taking that away from him.
The things I just don't get about weddings is why every single one I have been to feels like it is the exact same and has no personality. Church ceremony, oddly large banquet hall, traditional things strung out to keep guests there longer than they want to be. The music doesn't play until half the guests have left, and its jut never really a good time cause you and one other couple are on the dance floor.
@danadelphia: I think it's especially strange to me because I'm almost in the opposite situation from the "waiting" girls.
My FH proposed before I was ready. My answer was "Yes...just not right now." For nearly two years, he waited for me to say I was ready to get married, but I didn't feel pressure to get to that point. I know that we would be completely happy just being together, marriage or no marriage. I guess I just don't understand why other people can't feel the same way.
Like the others I don't understand "waiting." But I guess from some of the replies, I didn't "wait" long enough to know. I guess I just never considered 4 years of being together before proposal as "waiting." I connote "waiting" with boredom and the last 4 years have been far from boring.
I like this post :)
I second the bride has to wear white. I wanted to wear gray and my mom freaked out. :)
I also dislike wedding showers. I'm in the minority. :)
@quirkyparsnip: Oh you should have attended my wedding then. No church (a lovely garden instead), no white dress, no veil (a Victorain tea hat instead), no garter, no traditional wedding decorations. I thought the garden had tons of natural beauty and the conference center was already elegant. The only music we had was for the ceremony itself (Prelude- Peter Gabriels In Your Eyes, Processional - Apocalptica cover of Nothin g Else Matters and Recessional - Metallica's Nothing Else Matters).The ceremony was an unique mix of Unitarian, Wicca and Native American.
The simple little reception afterwards had no alcohol or dancing and we had a huge pig roast the next day. Many guests remarked they enjoyed the wedding because it was so unusual. Plus the whole thing came in under 5K, excluding the honeymoon.
@menobride: FI joked that we should have plastic cups so people cant clink.
I don't understand why weddings need to be so fancy or why people get so bent out of shape about the details.
I also don't understand the hyper-focus on me, me, me and image that goes with weddings. I just want everyone to have a good time.
I also don't understand having a huge wedding (and having people there you don't know). Although I do get that family pressure is sometimes involved.
@ChaiAnkh99: I think what drives alot of the "waiting" phenomenon is the fear that their BF will never actually be ready to marry them. I think at the back of their minds some of these women fear or even know that their BF is just stringing them along. I think the other thing that drives it is when women have other things that they want to do (like start a family) that are on hold pending getting married. It is particularly acute for family starting because there is a biological window for this that you can miss.
I understand some of this from my own experience. I wouldn't have considered myself waiting really. I wasn't a hint dropper, etc. But I do get it. I did want to get married and frankly I did have something of a mental timetable (because I want to have kids, and, frankly, biology dictates that that needs to get done within a certain period of a woman's life). I worked back from there and figured out that I would like to be married by the time that I was 28 or so. My FI and I had some very serious pre-engagement discussions about marriage because he wanted to be with me, but didn't really see any need to get married ever necessarily. It was not even necessarily the prospect that we wouldn't get married by x date. It was more that I have heard so many stories of people who had been together 5, 10 years or more, and then they just break up. I wanted to know if marriage was in the cards in the near to mid-term future and if not, I frankly wanted to cut my losses and move on to someone who was interested in getting married.
On the topic of waiting and proposing, this is this 21st century so it's ok for the woman to propose and alot of them do. Years ago, it might have been the guy's job but it's not true today. Also, it's hypocritical when you talk about wanting to have equal rights and opportunities but then say it's the guy's responsibility. No it isn't. It doesn't make the guy less manly. To each their own.
Brides who say that their wedding went by like a blur and they wish it lasted longer than it did. But when the topic of having a longer reception is brought up, they say that it is only supposed to last a certain number of hours because anything else is too long. You can't have both. But an after party (which is the same thing at a different location but not everyone wants to pack up to go elsewhere when they are already enjoying themselves) on the guest's dime is the only acceptable alternative to longer hours at a single venue.
The idea that if you don't have alcohol, (even if you and your families/friends don't drink) your wedding will be the disaster of the century because folks will be bored out of their minds and not dance or mingle. On the same topic, if you do have alcohol that you must serve beer and wine only, even if you know your guests won't drink a single drop of it because other alcohol types have no place at a wedding. Also the concept that champagne toasts are a "must and people can't toast with anything else because they'll look out of place", despite the fact that tons of folks don't like champagne and most of it goes to waste. Let the couple decide what to serve and what not to since they know their guests and what they will drink and what they won't.
I'll start with the caveat that everyone should do what they WANT at THEIR wedding & the things I/we don't get are things I/we DIDN'T want at ours (I've included some of Mr.'s "Don't gets" as well):
Again, please understand, if any of the above traditions are important to you, know that I am not questioning your actions or desires...just questioning the people who told me "You must/can't do that! It's a tradition!"
ETA: THANK YOU to the OP for posting this...I had no idea I was holding that all in! This was a great way to vent in a non-confrontational way against all those naysayers who questioned our wedding choices. Thanks!
@ms.pascua: "On that note...why must bridesmaids hair all be the same? The groomsmen don't have the same cut or facial hair...why must the bridesmaids?" Wow...really? Who do you know that has demanded all BM's have the same hairdo? Eek.
Receiving lines. Ugghhh I HATE them!! I just don't get them. I mean, I understand that the bride and groom should personally speak to each of their guests at some point during the day. That's just good manners. What I don't get is all the guests lining up and having to hug/shake hands with me, FI and our parents. Like, why does my college roommates' "plus one" have to hug my FMIL??? It usually takes FOREVER, it's awkward, unnatural, and completely unnecessary. There's plenty of time to get to know anyone you may not already know throughout the day. It's called mingling. That's what the cocktail hour is for, people!
OK. Rant over. Deep breaths......
Boutonnieres. I find boutonnieres completely nonsensical. I told the florist that I really wanted to cut them completely, and she told me that no one will know who the groomsmen are without them. Uh, really? Because I bet they'll be pretty recognizable by the fact that they'll all be in the same outfit. And they'll be standing at the front of the church. And they'll be introduced in a big fancy way at the reception. And they're my fiance's best friends. So. (My mom sided with the florist and made me get them strictly because it's really important to my grandfather that he has a boutonniere. I countered that my grandfather is not paying for this wedding, but I lost. Not a battle worth fighting.)
Wedding colors. WTF is up with matchy-matchy wedding colors. People have asked me several times already, "So what are your colors?" Ummmm...? Am I supposed to pick two out of the nearest Crayola box? I really don't care if everything coordinates to the same shades of pink or fuschia or whatever. I'm a bit more creative than that. I don't need David's Bridal or The Knot to find me groomsmen vests that match my bridesmaids' outfits. I'll have a beautiful wedding without the mind numbing matchy-matchy, thank you very much.
@veganglam: My mother...and my stylist, who also happens to be my cousin/big sister. They didn't "demand" per se, more gave me the "look" (I'm rather well known to be "non-traditional" in our family) & kept bringing it up. In the end, I went with styles that were easy (for my stylist's sake) & that both my MOH & BM agreed with. Luckily, they both liked the same one...
Agree completely with many of the ones already listed.
One that makes no sense to me is the reception dress trend for non-Asian brides. You're spending several hundred dollars on a dress that will only be worn an hour at most and then change into something else that costs the same amount? What happened to the days when a bride wore her dress for the entire duration and wanted to wear it just as long as possible? But if you want to wear your dress the entire time, you're considered an archaic freak.
I think it's pretty crazy to have a ring bearer. Look at how much money you spent on those rings...and you're going to trust a little kid to pack them down the aisle? Most of the weddings I have been to had a ringbearer with a pillow and all but never had the rings, the best man and MOH had them. What was the point?!
Also, my dad passed away in 2008 and I had wanted to walk by myself...but everyone FREAKED..."You can't walk by yourself! That will look so stupid!"
One more thing. I really dislike those people who flip out when you tell them you're not using that dreadful Wedding March music...gahhhh its 2010 people!!
I hate the posed family pictures too. Here's the bride with mom and dad. Here's the bride with mom, dad and sister. And here she is with mom, dad, sister and cousin. It makes me want to hit someone with the nearest bouquet (I've been a bridesmaid several times). I just don't get it. The bride never looks any different, only more strained as more and more people are added :P.
My FI refuses to see me before the wedding, so taking pictures beforehand is out. Like, what's going to happen? I'm going to melt if he sees me too soon??
I do not understand why weddings make perfectly sane people lose all sense of etiquette, manners, and financial responsibility.
1) Just because someone is going to be a bride does NOT give you the right to comment on her supposed need to lose weight, tone up, etc. No one would say this in any other circumstance, so why is it acceptable just because a woman is getting married?
2) Why is it that some people think that you must invite every single family member (whether you've seen them in the last decade or not) and family friend? Money does not grow on trees people and the bride and groom probably don't want to say,"Thank you for coming! Now who are you again?" on their wedding day.
3) Why do people have these fixed IDEAS of a wedding? When I mentioned not having boutonnieres, only pocket squares, to my bridal consultant at David's Bridal, she immediately responded, "But you have to have boutonnieres. You have the pocket square and then the boutonnieres." Umm...wtf? You do not sell flowers. Why on earth are you so insistent I have them?
I do not understand why weddings make perfectly sane people lose all sense of etiquette, manners, and financial responsibility.
1) Just because someone is going to be a bride does NOT give you the right to comment on her supposed need to lose weight, tone up, etc. No one would say this in any other circumstance, so why is it acceptable just because a woman is getting married?
2) Why is it that some people think that you must invite every single family member (whether you've seen them in the last decade or not) and family friend? Money does not grow on trees people and the bride and groom probably don't want to say,"Thank you for coming! Now who are you again?" on their wedding day.
3) Why do people have these fixed IDEAS of a wedding? When I mentioned not having boutonnieres, only pocket squares, to my bridal consultant at David's Bridal, she immediately responded, "But you have to have boutonnieres. You have the pocket square and then the boutonnieres." Umm...wtf? You do not sell flowers. Why on earth are you so insistent I have them?
@jo.lee: That's why we have *4* and only 4 posed pictures planned. Everyone (all guests, family, etc) in one picture. Me and him and my family. Me and him and his mom. Me and him and his dad and family. Done. End of story.
@ms.pascua: "What if the groom doesn't drink? What if the bride isn't into male strippers or club hopping or sexy lingerie?" That's so us! FI is allergic to alcohol and HATES strippers/clubs/and the like. He and the boys are going to see his favorite NHL team (which is not in our state) for his party.
I agree on a lot of your points!
Personally, I don't get...
Forgot to add:
Reception introductions. The couple is introduced at the end of the ceremony and it is rude to have a different guestlist for each event. If the guests in attendance don't know who the couple is, they should not be invited.
MCs. There is no need to announce every single event as though the guests invited are dense to the point of not being aware of their surroundings at all. Adults are usually able to pick up what is going on with no problem or asking someone else nearby if they don't know.
Having a song for every single event (cake cutting, etc). The wedding magazines and websites insist that you must have this but most weddings in real life do not and those that do, no one is paying attention to the music played.
Freezing the top tier and serving it a year later when cake ingredients are not intended to last that long and many bakers agree.
Feeling the need to give everyone you have ever met a "job" at your wedding instead of allowing them to be a guest. Having a "job" is not an honor of any kind and many prefer to sit back and relax with everyone else. Having a guestbook attendant will not make people more likely to sign the guestbook. Most officiants are the ones who do any readings.
Judging others because they choose to have a budget wedding (for whatever personal reasons that are only their concern) and stating that their wedding will be a failure because it isn't as 'designer' as someone else's.
Putting the top tier of the cake in your freezer and eating on your anniversary. That's just gross!
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