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What would you do in this situation?

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  • poll: What would you do in this situation?
    Just suck it up and pay the $825. : (3 votes)
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    Ask them nicely if you can pay the $375. If they say no, buy it for $825 anyway. : (24 votes)
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    Ask them nicely if you can pay the $375. If they say no, buy a dress elsewhere. : (47 votes)
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    Other. : (4 votes)
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    A few days ago, I posted pics of a Jenny Yoo bridesmaid dress that I really liked. I wanted to try it in white and maybe wear it for my wedding.

    I was up in NYC yesterday and tried on the dress in white. It was lovely. I want to buy it. HOWEVER...

    The dress in purple (or any other color) costs $375. The dress in white costs $825. Yes, that is a $450 difference. The fabric content is exactly the same; the ONLY difference is the color.

    I think this is (pardon my French) total bullshit. I'm considering calling Jenny Yoo and asking them if they'll give me a bridal gown for the bridesmaid's price, and tell them that if they do, I'll definitely buy the dress. And if they don't, I'll go elsewhere. But I really like the dress. So do I allow my principles to get in the way of me having the dress I love? Because it's really more about my principles than the money itself. We can come up with $450, no problem. It just, should we HAVE to? I think not.

    In this economy, I'd think that if they had the choice to make a $375 sale or zero sale at all, they'd choose the sale. Right?

    What would you do if you were in my position?

     

     
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    PirateJenn    June 21, 2011   Denver

    I would at least attempt to get it for the lower price! Cause that is total insanity.

     
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    OttawaBride2011    May 21, 2011   Ottawa, Ontario

    Wow, that seems so sleazy of them! I would call them up and try to wheel and deal. But I'm also the type that if they say no, I would still buy it because I love it lol.

     
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    Joeswaffle    September 25, 2010   Southern Maine/Seacoast NH

    I would ask them about selling it for the bridesmaid dress price. Have you found a dress that you like that is less than $825? What are you going to do if you do walk away? Are you going to pay more for another dress? If you have found a dress that you like that is between $350-825. Then I would walk away if they don't give you the lesser price.  

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    @Joeswaffle - I've found two other dresses that I like for $500 or under. I don't like them as much as the Jenny Yoo, but I'd be content wearing either one of them.

     
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    JamaicaBride    May 14, 2011   Charlotte, NC

    It wouldn't hurt to ask. I would need someone to explain the difference in the price. However, if they wouldn't budge I would pay the price if I loved it...and then give poor reviews b/c they jacked up the price so much based on the color...lol

     
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    SweetAdelineXO    June 5, 2010   NJ

    It's such BS that they hike up the price like that because it's a "bridal gown" now. Effing retarded. I'd talk to them about it because there's no good reason for it.

     
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    roxy821    August 21, 2010  

    I would contact the designer themselves and see what they have to say. The bridal shop is not going to give it to you for $375 unfortunately so I would call the designer and see what they have to say. Who knows many the designer is 100% against this practice and they are charging the bridal salon the same amount for the dress in white as they would in purple. They at least you know whether it will be the same price everywhere and you can make your decision.

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    @roxy821 - The bridal shop I went to is the actual designer's showroom. They are directly affiliated with the designer and set the prices themselves.

     
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    denverbirdlet    September 18, 2010   Denver, getting married in Madison, WI

    i'd say attempt to get it (mention the ridiculousness) for the cheaper price.  If they won't, i'd probably buy it anyway if you love it.

     
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    frugal_faye    June 6, 2010   Michigan and Illinois

    I think you've got nothing to lose by asking them.  If they say no and you still really, really want the dress, just tell yourself it was an $800 dress all along.  It's not that out of the park that you would have fallen in love with an $800 wedding dress.  And if cost isn't a factor, you might as well get the dress you love.

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    I call Bullshit. I would not buy it for a penny over 375. There isn't just one dress for each lady, so if they call you on your offer, just walk. You could use the 500 bucks for something else.

     
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    Tulip61110    June 11, 2010   Philadelphia

    That's preposterous.  I would attempt to get the dress for $375, and if they wouldn't let me, I wouldn't buy it.

    That just doesn't sit well with me, and even if I liked the dress a lot, I would constantly be fuming about it if I had to pay the higher price.  Obviously the dress costs no where near $825 to make.  I would keep looking for another dress that I really liked from a company that doesn't want to rip me a new a**hole.

     
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    Adira    October 3, 2009   New England

    If it's the EXACT same dress, that's BS.  I bought a bridesmaid dress too and it didn't cost me any extra because I ordered it in white!  Maybe try going somewhere else and getting the same dress and just tell them you ARE a bridesmaid but the bride wants you in a white dress.  :P

     
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    sulaii211      

    That's a pickle. Can you have something custom-made that looks like it? Or buy it in a taupe/gold/or ivory instead?

    Good luck!

     
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    Jenniphyr    February 2, 2013   Alberta, Canada

    That's evil! I would ask for the lower price -- but I don't really think they'd give it to you. Does the Jenny Yoo come in an off-white or light grey that you like?

     
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    rlsulli1598@verizon.net       oregon

    Is there any other place that you can get it in white for the lesser price?  I went back and looked at the photos--I think it is the most flattering of the gowns.  I would definitely try to get it for the lower price, but if you want the Jenny Yoo you should get it!  I hate that they jacked -up the price on the white one!

     
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    caszos    June 2010   Florida

    I would definietly call and talk to someone (maybe even a few people) at the designers. 

    I think there are a couple clear possible outcomes:

    1. They had no idea the salon was jacking up the price for a white dress.  You get the dress for the BM price.
    2. Jacking up the price is their policy.  Suck it up and pay the money for the dress if you really want it.
    3. You can negotiate with them.  This may be difficult unless they sell directly to the general public.  If they only sell to salons then you may be out of luck.

     

     

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    It comes in a color called "oyster" which looks like this online...

    What would you do in this situation? :  wedding Margaux Oyster

    But in real life, it looks like this:

    What would you do in this situation? :  wedding ?ui=2&ik=df20aa856d&view=att&th=12825f9f5975640a&attid=0

    And that's darker than I want.

    Anyway, I just emailed them and asked if they'd sell me the dress for less. If not, I'm walking. I love the dress but I'm sure I can find something else I love.

     
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    menobride    June 5, 2011   NH

    I think you should call and ask why it's more! If they don't really have a good explanation, then maybe ask for a reduction.

     
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    Mrs. DG    July 18, 2009   Seattle/Tahoe

    @sweet adeline- I feel really uncomfortable with the use of the "R" word...

     
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    roxy821    August 21, 2010  

    Ohhh I thought it was just a bridal shop. I guess since you went to the actual designer. I would ask them if they could take anything off since it is still a bridesmaid dress and if not if you love it I would say go for it. I just wouldn't put up to much of a fight because if you want the dress you don't want to ruin your relationship with the shop that will have your wedding dress.

    Just a side note. I wanted some custom beading added to my dress which was originally $4,200. The dress shop came back at $6,200 so I told them that I was thinking around $5,000 and didn't know if I could go that high. They ended up giving me the dress for $5,000! It's always worth the shot to bargain just don't get nasty (not that you will) because you will be out of luck it you really want the dress.

     
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    Baileyh    July 24, 2010   Vancouver

    Its a beautiful dress though!! but now a days you can take the picture of a dress and get it made by a seamstress for fraction of the price...I would do that over letting them charge you all that extra money.

    My sisters and i were having a good chuckle about this the other day though as well. At the Bridal Gallery on the top floor are the prom dresses and some of the dresses are INDENTICAL to wedding dresses only they are fraction of the price.

     

    so lame.

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    I just emailed them. Here is the email and response:

    Hello,

    My name is Dana  and I am getting married next May. Several months ago, I tried on the Margaux bridesmaid dress at one of your retailers outside of Philadelphia, where I live. I loved the dress, so when I was in Manhattan on business yesterday, I made an appointment at your showroom so that I could try it on in white.

    The dress is beautiful, and, based on looks and quality alone, it would be my top contender out of every dress I've tried on so far. However, I was shocked when I discovered that the dress in white costs a full $450 more than the dress in any other color.

    I compared the dress I tried on yesterday to the bridesmaid sample in the showroom. The quality and fabric content of the crinkle chiffon seem to be exactly the same. I didn't see one discernible difference except for the color. Can you please explain to me why the dress in white is so much pricier?

    The gown was beautiful, and the showroom employee was very pleasant and helpful. I really would like to purchase the Margaux, but I don't want to spend $450 more just because the dress is white. That doesn't make any sense to me.

    Can you please explain the reasoning behind the price increase for a white dress? Would you consider selling a white dress at the bridesmaid price?

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    Dana

    This was the response:

    Hi Dana!

    Thanks for your email. It was nice meeting you yesterday and I’m glad to hear you feel the Margaux is your dress! Our bridal dresses are made on a separate individual line than our bridesmaid dresses. Our bridal collection requires an additional layer to the dress to ensure that you can not see through the fabric. Chiffon especially being a lighter fabric requires the additional layer to the dress.  The Bridesmaid version of the dress we do not do in a white.  The Bridal dress is priced higher due to the extra labor and construction involved.  I hope this helps!  Please don’t hesitate with any more questions, concerns, etc.

    Have a great day!

    I don't know, you guys. I think I'm still calling BS on this. Basically, that means that the extra layer (materials, labor, etc.) costs MORE than the bridesmaid dress itself? It costs $375 to make a dress and $450 to add a layer?

    I'm so annoyed now. I almost wish that I didn't know the reasoning behind it, because it doesn't make me feel any better.

     

     

     
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    mishelleez    November 5, 2010   DW- Bahamas

    I'm sure you could find someone etsy.com or locally that would make that dress for the $375 or even less!!!

     
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    rachel_leigh    May 15, 2010  

    It's a marketing tactic.  They know that women like you are smart and can get a beautiful bridesmaid dress in white and wear it as a wedding dress so they take advantage and jack up the price.  It sucks, but I am not sure there is much you can do because a lot of different companies do it.  Just like how a "bridal updo" costs twice as much as regular updo even when they can be exactly the same.  Wedding world sucks for this very reason.

     
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    Tulip61110    June 11, 2010   Philadelphia

    I still call BS too.  $450 for an extra layer and labor?  No way.  I'm sure if you keep looking you will find another dress you really like.  I really liked that Aria dress you posted.

     
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    roxy821    August 21, 2010  

    The email you wrote was great but their response is complete BS. I love how once you put wedding on something it is double the price. It's your call and depends on how much you want the dress. Would you be happy with another dress you saw? If not you have your answer. Good luck and I'm sure you will look beautiful in whatever you choose.

     
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    Miss Chapstick    September 2009  

    I'd just like to say that I purchased a BM dress in white as my bridal dress, and they charged me the exact same price, not a penny higher, for the dress. And they also knew it was my bridal dress. It was Priscilla of Boston purchased at a Bella Bridesmaids boutique.

    I honestly would walk. You still have a lot of time before your wedding to keep looking.

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    This is my reply:

    I just want to be sure I understand: the extra layer costs an additional $450? That's more than the basic bridesmaid dress itself.  I find that very disappointing and unreasonable. I could understand a markup of $100 or so, but $450 doesn't make any sense to me.

    Thanks anyway for your time yesterday. I understand that the pricing isn't up to you and that you're just following brand policy. I appreciate your help yesterday and in these emails today but I can't in good conscience spend that much more on a dress for what seems like no true reason.

    Best,
    Dana

     
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    Kingcake    04/09/2011  

    LAME!   Move on, don't do busineess with sneaky-snakes like this.  It is not costing them another $450 to make the dress, they are lying.

     

     
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    littlemissbluebird    April 1, 2009  

    Atleast you asked...

    They just do it because now brides are looking at more casual dresses (including bridesmaid dresses) and designers are taking a hit because of it... less and less designers are creating their bridesmaid's dresses in white... although more designers who specialize in bridesmaid's dresses are ADDING whites to their collections!

    I still love the Aria dress best on you!

     
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    OttawaBride2011    May 21, 2011   Ottawa, Ontario

    Seriously? That's a lame response! What if you were actually a bridesmaid and the bride wanted you to wear that dress in white??! I changed my mind, I would definitely walk away (as it looks like you are anyways!!).

     
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    Chillmer    May 30, 2010   Milwaukee

    I call total BS too!  I would (sadly) move onto a different dress. 

     
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    owlbride    October 10, 2009   Houston

    That's nuts! I'd keep looking unless you're 100% sure that this is your dress. FWIW, I think you look just as gorgeous in the Aria dress as you do in the Jenny Yoo :)

     
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    lllouise    January 1, 2015   Australia

    I'm really glad you're pushing the point, because that is ridiculous. If anyone can think of a way to sneakily drop in the fact you're posting an a forum of hundreds of other future brides, then they should post it.

     
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    vfoster03    June 18, 2010   Glendale, Ca

    That's ridiculous $450 for one layer. Really it doesn't take that much more labor to put in one more layer. That price is like making 2 bridemaid dresses, rather than one bridal dress. That just doesn't sound right. Do you have any salons around you that can custom make a dress?

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    I've already posted reviews on Google and Yelp, and I blogged about the experience on my wedding blog (which won't help, since I only have 20 followers, hahaha).

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    Well, I just heard back from them again. Here is the response:

    The Bridal dress is entirely silk, while the Bridesmaid dress is lined with a synthetic poly lining.  Silk can run upwards of $20/yd and an average lining takes 4-5 yards. Since our bridal gowns require two layers of silk lining the result is a cost greater than the one layer of poly lining in the bridesmaids version. The factory also charges much more to construct a dress on a line where dresses are cut individually as opposed to our bridesmaid line where can they can be cut in multiples.  It’s the difference in an entirely silk dress versus the bridesmaid version which is only a silk overlay and a synthetic lining as well as the added cost to individually construct the dress.  I hope this is helpful in understanding the price difference. I’m sure as you are searching for your dress you will find that our bridal collection is quite reasonably priced.  Please don’t hesitate with any more questions, concerns, etc.

    Meh. Makes more sense, I suppose, but it's still unreasonable, and I'm not going to be purchasing from them.

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    For $450, that layer should be handmade by fairies and dusted with real silver sparkles and gold flakes.

    Rip off.

    Seriously...that dress is NOT that complicated. Can you get it custom made? I don't see why not!

    But yeah....100% silk dresses were a helluva lot more expensive than chiffon style dresses. But if you don't want it in silk...ugh. And i hate the passive crap of "if you search around, you'll find we're actually quite reasonably priced". Whatevz

     

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