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What's your opinion on the whole Constance McMillan situation?

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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    For those who aren't familiar with the story...

    Constance is an 18 year-old lesbian from Mississippi. She requested permission from her school to bring a female to the prom as her date. She also wanted to wear a tuxedo. In order to "avoid controversy," the school board canceled the entire prom. The ACLU got involved and the federal judge ruled that the school's actions violated Constance's first amendment rights, but he didn't force the school to hold the prom because someone had planned a private prom instead.

    When Constance and her date showed up at the private prom, only 5 other students were there. However, there was a "secret" prom that was organized by parents in the community, and that's where most of the kids were. The private prom Constance showed up to was a fake.

    I, for one, am absolutely appalled at what happened.

    First, I'm disappointed in the school board. By canceling the prom to begin with, all they did was end up turning all of the students against Constance. They all resented her because their prom was canceled.

    And then I'm disappointed with her fellow students, and, especially their parents. Those kids are teenagers and are old enough to know better, but their parents are REALLY old enough to know better. How anyone could act with such a lack of compassion and respect is just beyond me.

    And all this exclusion and ostracization was for what? To prevent one teenage girl from attending her prom with another girl? Like the world would end if that happened? Like it would affect anyone else in any way?

    The whole thing makes me sick.

     

     
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    ktisthatbees    May 1, 2011   Atlanta GA/Charleston SC

    From a personal perspective, I don't support same sex couples, but I also do not interfere with their decisions or how they choose to live their life. It is THEIR life and they have a right to happiness as much as any other human being.

    That being said, I completely agree with you that it would not have harmed any of the other students for her to be able to attend and I think it was ridiculous and incredibly pious for the school to cancel the prom in order to prevent her from attending. It's like they are trying to make her high school experience as miserable as possible. Completely uncalled for!

    The parents who organized the secret prom should be ashamed of themselves. What are they teaching their kids? To be hateful towards others? That is a big parenting FAIL.

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    Oh wow. That is SO sad. I was irritated when I heard they cancelled the prom, but what's happened since then is very sneaky and deceitful and it's just awful...they should've had the "secret" prom and invited everyone. You know, "non school sponsored function". And even sadder that THAT many people went along with it. Everybody at school knew she was lesbian; nobody would've been surprised or shocked if she brought her girlfriend and brought a tux. If somebody abhorred the idea that much, then the parent has the right to not let their own kid go to that prom, but as far as it being a big controversy...well....when I went to prom, my friend brought her 29 year old boyfriend. That was controversial. Everybody got over it.

     
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    Didn't some schools in Miss. just start having non-segregated proms. 

    I can't believe a school district would cancel a prom, doesn't make a lot of sense, but if it's the same area were integrated proms just started happening, it's starting to make a bit more sense.

     
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    Kittyachi    August 2010   New York

    Somebody call Mississippi and tell them it's 2010, not 1910.

     
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    CorgiTales    February 1, 2011  

    Ugh. things like this make me angrier and sadder than I have words to adequately express. 

     
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    hsearle    January 15, 2011   ND/Getting married in Minnesota

    I completely agree. It saddens me that there are places in this country that would rather show examples of & teach hatred, instead of acceptance and love.

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    It is pathetic that this terrible behavior comes from EDUCATORS. No wonder that schools around those parts just recently got desegregated, geezzz.  If the educators are ignorant, the rest of the town will follow. I'm disgusted by the whole situation.  There is a special place in the afterlife for people like that. I hope that Constance grows stronger from this situation, and that the coverage of these events sheds more light and attention to these close-minded communities.  It's 2010 people - don't worry - you won't turn gay from allowing 2 of your students to attend the prom.  I look forward to the scrutiny of the board by the media and making them answer some tough questions. 

    I'm proud that after all those obstacles she still decided to go and stand up for herself, and hope she can keep that going in her life.  Why is it impossible for some people to just live and let live?

     
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    ribbons    June 12, 2010  

    Another really important detail is that the other people attending the prom they sent Constance to were special ed students. Luckily, disability discrimination laws have tons of teeth and I hope someone sues the crap out of these people.

     
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    Edina    June 2010  

    Sigh, I'll never understand stuff like this. Of all the horrible things in the world, let's get all riled up and upset about love.

     
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    azula    February 27, 2010  

    When I first read about the secret prom that the parents and students organized on purpose to exclude her I was disgusted. I was even more disgusted when I found out that some of the other handful of kids at the fake prom that she showed up to were learning disabled kids, who seem to have also been excluded on purpose from the super secret prom. The parents and the students who pulled this disgusting trick should be ashamed of themselves.

    It seriously reads like the script of a bad teen movie. Except that in a movie, one of the popular girls at the secret prom would have said "Screw you guys, stop being so close-minded" and she would have gone to the fake prom, then she'd be followed by a bunch of other kids and then the fake prom would have been well-attended and the only people left at the secret prom would be the bad guys, and all the good kids would dance their troubles away and be happily ever after. Too bad reality isn't like the movies...

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    Honestly, this whole situation, along with the Phoebe Prince situation, has made me rethink having kids. I'm not sure I want my kids growing up in a world where stuff like this happens. It breaks my heart.

     
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    veganglam    January 5, 2013   Philadelphia; Wedding in NYC

    I agree that the whole situation is disgusting, but I did read in several places that it was no "secret" that the prom Constance went to would only be attended by a few students, with most kids going to the other prom.  She was fully aware of that and went to the prom with the special ed kids anyway.  Still terrible, but she wasn't quite "tricked" like the media has been telling the story.

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    even if it wasn't as completely warped and secret as a bad teen movie, it's still horrifying and I hope the parents and school board get a good dose of karma. And lawsuits, can't forget those.

     
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    gabrielleelise1981    August 28, 2010   Portland, Maine

    I think that parents who would knowingly hold, or support holding a prom or other special occasion that they knew would exclude only gay/lesbian students and disabled students from attending should have their parenting privileges revoked like yesterday. They should be ashamed of themselves, but people who would do that generally have no shame.

     
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    CorgiTales    February 1, 2011  

    What I would LOVE to have explained to me (but not really bc my head my explode from the Ignorance) is how acts like this-- which are supposedly religiously motivated--are in any way reflective of God's love and word?

     
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    hotchildinthecity    June 12, 2010   New York, NY

    I did not hear about this, but that is crazy.  At my prom (in 2000, mind you), we had a couple of same-sex couples.  And I'm from a small town that I never considered to be too liberal or progressive.

     
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    sjones724    07/03/10   Frederick MD

    I think its weird that it was even an issue. When I had prom many girls bought tickets as each others "dates" even if they were just friends because it was cheaper that way. We could bring anyone we wanted as long as they wer eunder 21 (although i found my way around that one too lol)

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    @Corgi - i find myself asking the TV and internet and newspapers WWJD?! all the time, haha. I'm agnostic, but ya know, I get the gist of it. From what I've heard, he was a pretty loving, accepting, tolerant guy, no? So let's stop using that as an excuse please, thanks!

     
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    zippylef    October 30, 2010   Norfolk, UK

    This whole situation disgusts me. I can't even express how disappointed this makes me in the human race. As a soon-to-be high school teacher, I cannot believe that the teachers and administrators of that school would do something to victimize a student like this. I hope every adult involved loses everything they own when those kids sue the hell out of them.

    @danadelphis- Speaking of the Phoebe Prince thing, there was another case here in Missouri a couple years ago. A girl and her MOTHER tormented a classmate of the daughter's, Megan Meier, over myspace and Megan ended up committing suicide as well.

     
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    snmcdowell    9-13-08   Chicago

    My heart just breaks for Connie and the other kids who were excluded from the "real" prom. Constance is the only one that seems to have any class in that town. She has handled herself admirably in the face of such grossness. The parents who kept the real prom a secret from Connie are shameless bigots.

    Many people have been asking "where were the bullies parents?" in the Phoebe Prince case...well if those parents were anything like these, then it answers a lot of questions about how kids could possibly think it is ok to treat others with such callous cruelty.

     
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    caitlanc    September 12, 2009   Western Slope of Colorado

    Oh no!  That's terrible!  I had only heard the story up to the point of the school board cancelling prom.  If it's true that they had a secret prom and set the others to a "special kids only" party that's despicable!

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    This actually happened in Ontario in 2002 to a teen named Marc Hall.  Luckily, the judge not only allowed him and his boyfriend to attend, but prevented the school from cancelling the prom!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Hall

     
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    yrret107    November 28, 2009   Seattle, WA; Married in West Chester, PA

    I think it is horrible if they tricked her to go to this fake prom and everyone else go to the other one. I can't believe an entire community would do this.  It's one thing for students to do this but parents, too?

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    @zippylef - I remember that Megan Meier story. Disgusting.

     
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    sahsabahs    June 2011  

    There are few times in life that I hope there's a Hell. Situations like this would be one of them - cause these people deserve one way tickets.

     
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    crayfish    September 11, 2010   Berkeley, CA

    Situations like this are why I moved out of the south immediately after high school, and why I will NEVER raise my children there. The amount of religious extremeism and intolerance I experienced there as a child is unacceptable to me.

     
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    Fox    May 28, 2011  

    This is so awful! That poor girl :[

    Things like this also just perpetuate the perception of the South as extremely bigoted and intolerant, which it is not. Are there crazy rednecks and extremist "religious" people? Yes, but not as many as the media makes it seem. They just get all the attention because they are so hateful and are LOUD about it.

    I attended a typical 4A high school in an average southern town, and we never had issues with situations like this. I love being from SC and am glad I was born in the South, but I hate all the negative attention we get from horrible people like those parents in Mississippi.

    The South is a wonderful place full of interesting people from all walks of life who are accepted and respected for who they are, do not judge us all by that school's actions.

     

     
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    lilyfaith    June 23, 2012   Lakeview, Chicago

    I followed this, and it's just awful. I blame the parents, town, and educators. They are instilling discrimination and hatred into kids at an early age at the expense of others. I can't believe that the town would stand behind the school like that, and fund a private "straight" prom. The discrimination on both ends (towards the disabled kids, and Constance) is disgusting, and speaks volumes of the town's personal values and morality. No kid should have to go through that. I'm just glad that organizations stepped up to help her. 

     
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    rlsulli1598@verizon.net       oregon

    I am tired of all the hate speech, and actions going on in this country.  I thought we were over this stuff, we should be by now!  C'mon people . . .try to love one another right now!  I was disgusted and disappointed in this case,  and others like this one-again!

     
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    bree72    December 31, 2008  

    @Fox: I'm from Florida, and I'm sorry, but the farther South you go, the more bigoted and intolerant people are. Maybe SC isn't that bad, but I still see white robed KKK members around, watch my gay friends move as fast as they can so they don't get berated, and hear the n-word pretty much every day. I would love to move, but my husband would never want to move away from his family, so here we are. I like to think that by being a much more accepting person, and by raising my future children to be open-minded and always caring about others, I am helping this area become a better place. That is how I stay sane here. 

    PS - My little brother got beat up at school (6th grade) because he told someone that my parents voted for Obama. And not because he's liberal. It's because he's black. That's pretty much the mindset. 

     

    The story of this poor girl does not surprise me, even a little. Sometimes, people just suck.

     

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