I'm interested to see who Bee's from other countries besides America would have voted for? The news overseas often seems to paint a different story so I'm keen to find out what overseas bees thoughts are on this election.
Would you have voted for Obama or Romeny?
If so why and where are you from?
@FauxBoho: damnit i just tried to click "american" and clicked the one above it. sorry =(
I always am so interested to see what outsiders have to say. I voted american :) (because I am!)
I'm from England, and I would have voted for Obama, I don't know enough about anything to make a real judgement on this, but I find that he strikes me as a trustworthy person.
I have a feeling most of our neighbours are asleep right now due to the time difference. Hopefully we will get some more votes later this afternoon/tonight.
I'll be the first from the UK to have a say then!
I would have voted for Obama, because I think he has shown that he isnt afraid of hard work and to an outsider it looks to me that the majority of the country is behind him, although I heard a sound bite from someone in the US the other day saying that he was voting for him but it wouldn't make any difference who he voted for as they're all useless (which is how I feel about politics in this country.....)any way I digress.
But the thing I am most surprised about in your election campagins are how many celebrties endorse either party, I saw an ad that featured Samuel Jackson on TV the other night and I was surprised that such a high profile celeb was on TV telling people to vote for Obama.
Anyways I dont suppose my opinion has counted for much but I thank you all for reading :)
I would definitely have voted for Obama. Although I'm not an "overseas" bee, so I'm not sure you wanted to hear my vote lol.
@Lillyrose: Didn't Romney just look like a snake in the grass? I am American so I could get further into the debates and really hear what they had to say, but from the moment I saw his face on the TV I told my FI "I don't trust him". He just has that look that I associate with someone VERY devious.
Not that any of our candidates are ever 100% honest. But really our government was going to pot before Obama and I feel he has tried to help us, so we can't just blame it all on one president. Unfortunately its not just him that has a say in our government but the Congress, Senate etc so our president may say "Let's cut taxes for the poor" but 100 other people can say "NO WAY" and it doesn't get passed.
@sushi_lover: Where are you from? Interested in hearing from any non-american bees but didn't know if 'non-american' was offensive or un-pc or whatever :)
I am a resident, not a citizen and I most definitely would have voted for Obama. I'm still waiting to hear the details of Romney's plan to "fix" America
English! When I checked my facebook this morning there were dozens of statuses saying things like "if that phsycopath named after a glove is ruling the world when I wake up I am going to be extremely pissed off!"
As far as everyone I know is concerned, and of how the media showed it, we all think Romney is abolutely insane. I think that most people also think that Obama was the best of what was to offer but not brilliant.
I am amazed at how media focused the elections are though, funny clip on one of our comedy shows of all the Obama-delivering-pizza-on-campaign videos
@FauxBoho: It says Canada beside her name.
They played the debates up here (that's what happens when tv stations are shared) and well...Romney did not look good, half of what he said was contradictory...it was annoying to watch but there was nothing else on! lol
The thing is Obama didn't start this recession. He can't end it by himself and the US is going down fast because everyone is so busy arguing with each other that they don't notice the big corporations bleeding them dry. The same corporations that got bailouts and tax relief and then turn around and slash wages while making record profits...they are to blame. Yes, they are providing jobs but at the lowest wages possible and they will continue to do this. The gap between the 1% and the rest of us keeps growing and growing!
I'm from the UK - prevailing opinion is that we wanted Obama.
I've not been involved with much of the campaign trail but the main things that I didn't like from what I've heard about Romney's platform are as follows:
- No free healthcare, and to abolish Obamacare. I find it shocking that some people can say that giving people medical treatment for free is 'unconstitutional'. What's unconstitutional about saving peoples' lives?
- Womens' Rights. Whatever my stance on abortion, I don't think it is ANY Government's right to say what a person can do to their own body. I frankly found the idea a little scary.
- Sesame Street. That just struck me as being mean - what has Big Bird ever done to them??
The Gay Rights issue is one that's been going for many many years, these were just the new ones which came to light in this campaign that worried me. Sadly, I don't think there'll be a resolution to the Gay Rights one for a while yet, but at least that was Old, Familiar Platforms, rather than New And Disconcertingly Invasive Platforms.
I'm Canadain, and I tend to lean towards a Conservative party.
I watched the elections last night with a lot of interest, but I honestly don't know who I would have voted for if I was American. Romney's political views seem to be in line with most of my religious views (i.e. pro life). However, I don't think he'd make a good president. Something about him... can't quite put my finger on it... I'd be nervous for America's future if he were to be elected.
Obama on the other hand, I think he did a fairly decent job during his last term and he deserved the win. I think the economic state of America will do better in his hands. He just seems like an overall genuine person... as genuine as politicains can be lol! However, I disagree with some of his moral stances. I feel so conflicted.
Ugh... I am glad I'm not voting.
As an American who voted for Obama, this thread is awesome! Lovely to hear feedback from around the world. :)
@Azyriah: OMG you said almost exactly the same things I've been saying all along. That I couldn't quite figure out why I didn't trust Romney but from the beginning my intuition was red flagging that if he were elected our government, economy etc would get worse quickly. I actually said that if he were elected I was moving out of the country.
@chronicwhimsy: I am from the UK too and would have voted Obama. I agree with your points on abortion (I am pro choice) and free healthcare. It amazes me that such a developed country does not have universal free healthcare. The NHS might have its flaws but I know I couldn't be without it.
Also Romney made a big boo boo with the British - coming to London then saying we weren't capable of hosting the Olympics!! Have to say when I heard that I did think "P*ss off back to where you came from - we'll show you!" (and we did!)
@Twizbe: Actually I have to say as a Londoner and someone that used to commute through Stratford from Essex to get to work I was more than surprised we did so well with the Olympics! But I agree don't shout your mouth off about something that has nothing to do with you!
@Twizbe: The healthcare thing really does boggle my mind. I might moan about my £30 for three prescriptions, but god, at least I know that if I have a heart attack or fall off a cliff, I won't have to worry about being billed for an ambulance afterwards! And the abortion issue really upset me. Personally, I don't know what I would do if I were ever in that situation, and I hope that I never will be, but I absolutely feel that I have no right, and nor does anyone, to tell a woman what to do with her own uterus.
I am from England. If I could've voted I would have voted for Obama.
It really worried me about Romney's views is that a person in government can have a say on what a woman can do to her own body. I still feel sick to my stomach that could be said in a country that prides it's self on freedom and choice. I personally do not believe that such an issue should be such a political subject and in the public arena when it is such a personal choice and emotive suject. I know a lot of bees will not appreciate my opinion, I didn't write it to cause offence.
I can understand how as a christian country a pro life policy would be popular (even if it horrifies me- I'd be emigrating if the uk govt thought of doing the same) but I really, really don't understand the oposition to health care!
@chronicwhimsy: I know what you mean. I got sick in the Caymans this year and it cost us £1000 for two IVs and some antibiotics. They even charged me for the plaster after the drip came out! (and the ambulance ride)
I too don't understand the oposition to a healthcare system similar to the NHS. I aqm so thankful I live in a contry where healthcare is free at the point of access...I also wholeheartedly agree that if you are able to pay for private health care the option is open to you but if you are unable to pay then the standard of care you receive should be the same...I have seen lots of cases where the standard of healthcare differs greatly if you are fortunate enough to be able to pay.
@chronicwhimsy: I work in healthcare and as a mother of 3 who has CRAPPY healthcare for myself and can't afford healthcare for my other kids this was a big thing with me. I was honestly scared to wake up this morning and my kids would no longer be insured (even though I know it would take longer than overnight to change things).
I'm pro-choice. I wouldn't necessarily get an abortion but I do not think poor of someone who would choose that. Plus it would depend on circumstances. For instance I have a co-worker who wanted children, her and her husband had been TTC and were blessed to find out they were pregnant. At 5 months she had an US that showed the baby had no amniotic fluid and the doctor said her options were either to have an abortion and try again or carry which could end in a miscarriage that would be risky to her or carry to term which would result in a still born birth anyway. She elected to have an abortion and there was a big uproar in her church. But why should she carry the child knowing it will not survive. A mother's feelings should be considered during any circumstance whether we agree or not.
I agree, the bash on Big Bird was just WRONG!!! I'm still mad about that :)
SO interesting to hear non-Americans' views on health care. Our system here is SO broken and screwed up. It boggles my mind that any American wouldn't want cheap, mandated, universal care. Obamacare is a good first step but still involves the insurance companies, who are making a killing off us. One small accident or health issue can literally force a regular person into bankruptcy :(
Healthcare should be availale for every American. It should be a basic right. I can't imagine living in a country where I didn't have access to health care without breaking the bank. The Canadain system isn't perfect, and the wait times can get ridiculous. But I'm so thankful its available!
It just makes sense that everyone should have access to basic health care. I always wondered why this took so long to implement.
Not American but would have voted Obama. Faith in humanity somewhat restored!!
I live in East Asia and didn't really follow the election but after reading all your ladies comments, I now confirm that I would have voted for Obama. I complain about my own country sometimes but feel thankful that everyone has access to although not perfect health care and free ambulance if needed. Abortion is available as well. Yes we can be a little late in things including new medical technology and new medicine like America, but still I can't imagine if we had to be rich to receive care...
BUT, my FI who is also not American had been rooting for Romney. He works in finance and his opinion is that Romney would have been better for economy for not just America but worldwide.
I'm American (and voted Obama), but my SO is English. He couldn't imagine voting any way other than Obama, and the same goes for his friends and family. None of them like Romney, and they are all so relieved at the outcome.
my views apparently line with Green Party candidate Jill Stein so I would have voted for her. otherwise, Obama all the way. Romney scares me.
Oh man I just saw a chart on FB that showed this. I think Pakistan was one of the only ones to pick Rpmeny. Let me see if I can find it.
@mrsmenow: If this is true then it says a lot...that many BILLIONS of people can't be that wrong!
I'm Australian, and was glued to the election coverage all day yesterday rooting for Obama! That support chart is very telling - I (and apparently the rest of the world) cannot fathom why so many Americans voted for Romney.
I only started following American politics in the past couple of years, but I was absolutely shocked at what I learned. How can a developed, modern country not have universal health care? How can there be 'at-will' states where you can be fired for your political affiliation? How can there be 7-hour waits to vote, which takes place on a weekday, with no mandated public holiday? How can each state have so much autonomy over a federal election process that some can choose to not allow early voting, thus excluding some people who can't get out of work to vote?
Our system isn't perfect, and I think that our politicians can learn a lot from the inspirational, idealogical speeches given by Obama and even Romney, but I hope that your electoral process can improve to make it fairer for everyone nationwide.
I am from New Zealand (but married to an American) and would have voted Obama. I have followed the election closely and Romney shows so little awareness about the rest of the world, and doesn't have much respect for other countries either (ahem "we are the hope of the earth"- UGH!). Also I would have voted for Obama because of his stance on healthcare, gay rights, and women's rights. He might not be perfect, but I do get the impression that he has genuine compassion and respect for people. There was a poll done here in NZ and it showed that 96% of NZers would have voted for Obama!
@mrsmenow: Wow that's very interesting! They like Romney in Pakistan!!
Obama is very popular here in Ireland. Ive never seen such excitement over a visiter coming to before(except the queen), the whole of Dublin shut down!! I get the impression that he's not afraid to make unpopular decisions (I was in the US during Obamacare debates and he was being abused on the TV!!). Here, I feel politicians are constantly sucking up and backpeddling from unpopular decisions, even if it is the right thing to do. It really bugs me!!
I think if I was AMercian I would vote democratic. I couldn't understand why Bush was re-elected!!
I would have voted for Obama, for all the reasons previously mentioned. I live in a country with a government legislated health care system, where abortion is legal, birth control is to a certain extent government subsidised and where gay marriage is welcomed. Sure, we have our issues, but I just cannot fathom not having these things...
I'm not really full bottle on American Politics but we have a pretty good health care system in Australia so that is very important which Obama stands for but at the same time I vote for a conservative governemnt here (since our current party in power is more of a socialist one, are a complete basket case and have put the country into so much debt its mind boggling and don't even get met started on my views on Julia Gillard!) which I understand would have been Romney so I'm not sure :)
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