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    There are about a million posts on these boards about cash bars and whether or not they are tacky.

    The prevailing attitude on the boards seems to be that there HAS to be alcohol at the wedding, and therefore the options are have free alcohol or have guests pay for alcohol.  Because people have this attitude, they do something that is considered poor etiquette, and charge their guests for drinks (I know people disagree with this, but I swear Emily Post and Miss Manners are on my side.)

    I honestly just do not get it.  I've been to lots of weddings where I neither expected nor received alcohol of any kind.  The wedding wasn't ruined for me.  I still had fun, talking and laughing with my friends. Why on earth are weddings all about the booze?   I don't really see what's so wrong with a dry wedding, if alcohol is out of budget.

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    KateMW    8.30.03   Birmingham

    I much rather attend a dry wedding then a wedding with a cash bar. That's just me though.

     

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    FutureMrsMorgan    May 9, 2009   Los Angeles, CA

    i dont think alcohol is 'required', per se. But I think each bride knows her guests. I had a 'cocktail reception' so clearly, open bar. But if I had something before 3, i probably would have served champagne only, or no alcohol at all. I think the decision to serve alcohol depends on a lot of factors, but I definitely vote for the dry wedding over cash bar.

     
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    Bamboo    June 2010   Midwest

    I actually don't like weddings that have alcohol! There are way to many people that act like huge fools, including the bride and groom. I would much rather go to a dry reception. I do have a problem with running out of drinks! Eek, people will definately want more than 1-2 glasses of punch, water, or whatever for a big/long reception and I don't want to pay to drink more!

    Sorry, I don't think many people make this error, but the last wedding I went to didn't even have enough punch for guests to have more than one glass and you had to pay for anything else, including water! I didn't bring cash (I don't drink so even if I knew it would be a cash bar I wouldn't have, but pay for water?!)

     
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    minneapolitan    11/7/2009   Minneapolis, MN

    I'd much rather go to a wedding with a cash bar than a dry reception.  Unless of course it was a daytime wedding. 

    Might just be my social circle, but I'd be really really surprised if any of my friends or family decided to have a dry reception.  I think if we made the choice to go dry, our family/friends would not be fans of it.  I always bring cash to weddings, to me it isn't a big deal at all, and I have yet to hear someone complain at a wedding about paying for their own martini or something.  I don't expect the bride & groom to provide me with drinks.   The only necessary thing, in my mind, is food.  I'd only be offended if things were clearly out of balance, like a 10k dress and no hosted bar options. 

    The more and more I read weddingbee the more it seems that this is really specific to our own region & culture.

     
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    GaBGal    September 25, 2010  

    I don't think its "necessary" per se, because it depends on your group of guests. For us, it is non-negotiable, its a part of everyday entertaining in both our friends and family. So, for that matter, if it is an evening wedding than a bar is expected among our guests. 

    I think that it is such a hot button issue that people immediately think its necessary but honestly, it all depends on your guests and your lifestyles.

     
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    I think if you want to have a 'dance party' type reception (which we did), alcohol is pretty critical.  In my experience, it's hard to get a lot people to dance without it.  If you aren't having dancing, or are just having slow dancing, I don't think not having alcohol is a big deal.  It all just depends on the type of reception you want to have.  If you don't want to serve alcohol (or can't), you just have to look at how that might affect your guests and adjust your expectations for the vibe of the reception.  Of course, you can still have a great time, it just might not turn into a 'dance party.'  I just hate to see the bride & groom dissapointed that the dance floor is empty when there is no alcohol available.

     
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    Mermaid1082    September 4, 2010   St Louis, MO

    Alcohol is not necessay at all.  But if you're going to provide refreshments for your guests, then do so.  Would you charge them per drink if you were having a cocktail party at your house?

     
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    Kittyachi    August 2010   New York

    There really can't be any sort of blanket rule on this question just because, as many have said here, it really is dependent on the couple, their families, and their guests. If y'all aren't drinkers or there is a history of alcoholism in the family, then dry reception is clearly the way to go. I don't think any guest would find it objectionable that someone who is either him- or herself a recovering alcoholic or has family in that position would choose not to spend $$$ on alcohol at their wedding. However, some families and friends (like mine, for example) are drinkers and will expect that at a wedding, and a dry reception would NOT fly at all. It really does depend on the lifestyle of the couple, families, and guests.

    Also I agree with kitten that alcohol can be a key component if you're looking for that "dance party" vibe - not that people need to be wasted to dance. There are just a lot of people who may need to loosen up a bit to feel comfortable gettin down on the dance floor!

     
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    RoddyBride09    September 5, 2009   Bethlehem, PA

    I don't believe that it is necessary but the answer to this question relies on the audience.

    For my sister's baby shower, my parents decided to make it a dry party... WOW, that did not fly with the guests at all. They were bugging my parents the entire night, which ticked me off since it was a baby shower. Unfortunately, that is my family. Some of them "have" to have alcohol to have fun.

     

     
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    DaisyBride    June 1, 2009  

    I would prefer to have a cash bar over a dry wedding. 

    I'm Irish and it would be completely unheard-of in my family to have a dry wedding.  I also can't imagine any of my friends having a dry wedding.  In many cultures alcohol is just part of any celebration.  It drives me nuts that people who don't drink think that having alcohol at an event will turn people into raving lunatics.  Every event that is hosted by my family and friends (birthday parties, house warmings, Saturday night get-togethers) has alcohol and people don't act any more crazy than they would sober. 

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    I would say providing a cash bar is a more acceptable plan than having no alcohol available for those who want it. 

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    tessabella76    September 12, 2009   Ohio

    I don't think it's necessary. I think it depends on the couple, the family, and the guests. I know people who would frown on having alcohol at a wedding and I know people who would be upset to have a wedding without alcohol. Each couple has to decided what works best for them.

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    Giving this post more thought...I would say that not offering a cash bar is equivalent to treating your guests like children.  A wedding is an adult social event.  Adults have the right to chose whether or not they would like to drink alcohol.  I personally would not want guests to feel like they are at a child's birthday party.

     

     
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    mechiebaby    June 4, 2010   Malaysia / Washington DC

    @heathaah ... so, since I don't drink, would you consider me a perpetual child? I choose not to drink, and I think that choice extends to what I will serve my guests. 

    @ amandopolis, its not even a budget question for me... so obviously I think its fine not to have it :)

     
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    mklove    April 24, 2009   Exton, Pa

    Well said tessabella76!  I was going to say something very similar.

     
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    Mrs. DG    July 18, 2009   Seattle/Tahoe

    Mechie- I think Heathaah meant that giving adults a choice is appropriate... Not drinking is a choice that you make and therefore a very adult decision!

    I really think that either having alcohol or not might be the appropriate choice for any given social situation.  If a couple is hardcore religious and their entire social circle is too, then it would be inappropriate in that case to provide alcohol.  Likewise, if there is a serious trend toward alcoholism in the family where multiple people are in recovery, it might be better to forgo the alcohol.

    On the other hand, if one is inviting a group mainstream friends and family, there is at least an expectation that alcohol will be present.  I think the expectation also trends toward open bar, unless it is explicitly detailed somewhere in the invitation.

    Whether that expectation is right or wrong is probably a matter of debate.  Regardless, it tends to be the default setting for guests unless clearly delineated.

     
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    @doctorgirl:  When you say "open bar" are you referring to a true open bar, or do you mean a hosted bar, as in alcohol is provided by the party hosts, but not necessarily a full bar selection?

    I'm just trying to figure out the terminology.  Do you think it's expected to note somewhere on the invitation that beer, wine, and a signature cocktail are going to be served, but not liquor (therefore not making the event "open bar")?  Or are you just saying that it should be noted if its a dry or cash bar reception?

     
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    DaisyBride    June 1, 2009  

    Nicely worded doctorgirl! 

    Adults should be able to choose to drink if they want, choosing not to drink doesn't make you a child.

    I understand not having alcohol if a lot of people attending are recovering alcoholics or if the majority of the people just don't drink. 

    I don't understand why people use their wedding as a way to inflict their personal values on their friends and family.  I avoid super fattening foods with trans-fat and I think aspertame is poison but I will still be serving cake and diet coke because I know that not everyone shares my feelings. 

     
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    mandalynn17    June 19, 2010   Medford, OR

    While there are members in my family and his, my fiance and I don't drink so we are having a dry wedding.  But I've been to lots of each kind.  I don't think the celebration is any less wonderful without alcohol there, although it does seem like the after party goes on much longer when there is alcohol present. 

     
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    Crash    09/09  

    I have only been to two weddings in my life, and they were both dry. I am going to be in a dry wedding this weekend as well. I don't think alcahol is by any means neccessary, but I will say at the last wedding I went to, they had a DJ but fewer than 10 people out of around 80 danced at all. It was kind of sad. I also heard a lot of negative comments about how "if I have to go to one more dry wedding..." and (to me) "Your wedding will have booze, won't it?" Yes, it will, but I hate that that's a main focus to the event for so many people...  It can really make the party, but I'd personally still prefer dry over cash bar.

     
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    balletflat    May 23, 2009  

    I don't think it's necessary, but I wouldn't hold a cash bar either. I wouldn't want my guests to pay a cent at my wedding, so I wouldn't offer liquor at all.

     
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    allisoncooke       Bloomington, In

    While I don't think alcohol is NECESSARY, I certainly thing it is something nice to offer. Considering your guests have (hopefully!) gotten a present for you, spent time travelling, perhaps paid for a babysitter or petsitter, hotels, etc. and are there to celebrate you, I think it is only fair to help aid in their merriment.

     I often joke that I would not go to a wedding if they didn't havee booze, but I think having a cash bar is bad.

     I understand that it's not possible for all couples to fit alcohol into their budgets, and I think having a few signature drinks is a great compromise.

     In my family of drinkers, a cash bar or dry wedding would never fly, so at least I know someone would pony up for the bar bill!

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    mrsmike    8/9/09  

    I feel like "spirits" (at least beer and wine) should be provided along with the meal amongst a crowd who would normally choose to have some, although I can't put my finger on why I feel that way, and I actually don't drink at all.  It's kind of like how at a formal reception you wouldn't serve a main course without a soup or salad course, well I see wine or beer as a "course" I guess.  At first I wanted a dry wedding, because both my fiance and I have overcome some really destructive drinking habits, and I hate when people get drunk around me.  We're having a full open bar anyway because it comes with the reception package, and in my Dad's words "If there was no alcohol at your wedding, it would be like you hadn't even gotten married".  Thanks, Dad, that's touching.  Our bartender knows he has the bride and groom's thumbs up to cut off anyone who has had too much to drink, and most of our friends won't anyway.  Also, I am sure there is a historical basis, many ancient cultures celebrated rites of passage and special days with wine and other spirits.

     
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    Mrs. DG    July 18, 2009   Seattle/Tahoe

    @Kitten- I was broadly speaking about a hosted bar.... but you're right, I was a little loose with my terminology.  What I meant was that if money will be required for an individual to procure any drink at the wedding, it should be noted.  I consider a wine/beer/signature cocktail/champagne reception as having provided a selection adequate enough that people can find something to fulfill their drink needs.

    Sorry about the fuzziness of my statement!  It might have reflected my groggy state of being after several insomniac nights!

     
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    Bamboo    June 2010   Midwest

    Um...I don't drink and I know that there are many people that don't turn into raving lunatics once a drop of booze hits the tongue. However I DO think that there are way too many people that go to weddings with the intention of getting completely smashed, especially if its an open bar.

    And I don't think having a dry reception is pushing your beliefs onto someone else. Seriously if you can't attend a dry event without complaining about/missing the booze there you have a problem. I don't go to dinner at my vegetarian friends' and get miffed that they didn't serve me a meat option.

     
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    @doctorgirl:  I think the lawyer in me is just really picky about words!  And in some of the other alcohol discussions the terms are used interchangeably and I never know what people are really saying!

    And I agree, if you go with a cash bar, you really should give everyone a head's up!

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    Thank you Doctor Girl, that was exactly what I was saying.  Making the choice to not drink is a very respectable choice.  I have family members who choose to abstain, and given the amount of pressure in our society to drink alcohol, I consider the ability to stick to one's beliefs an incredibly admirable strength.

    My point was that not allowing others to drink is not treating them like adults.  Drinking is a personal decision, and some people enjoy doing so at social events.  I see nothing wrong with either choosing to drink or choosing to abstain.

     
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    DaisyBride    June 1, 2009  

    99% of my friends/family drink and I don't know anyone who goes to a wedding with the intention of getting smashed. 

    I wouldn't be miffed if a vegetarian friend didn't serve meat at their house because they would have to touch/cook the meat.  I don't have to touch alcohol to serve it at my wedding.

     
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    bree72    December 31, 2008  

    I agree with everyone who says that it depends on the family and situation. I had a dry wedding, but I also made it a morning wedding with lunch and no dancing because I personally need quite a few drinks to loosen up enough to dance.

    My family all drinks, and would have loved to party-it-up at an evening affair, but my husbands family is huge and almost all of them do not drink. Had we had a dancing/evening wedding, it would have turned into our friends and my small family dancing like crazy people, and then his family (which consisted of about 2/3 of the guests), just sitting there complaining about how much they hate alcohol and people who drink. Most of them would have left after eating.

    I did make note that people really like to walk around with drinks, though, so we bought about 300 bottles of different Jones sodas, which were a hit!

    We pretty much never had the option to have that type of wedding, although we both would have loved it, so we really enjoy when we get to attend weddings where there is alcohol and great bands/DJ's! It was kind of sad at his cousin's wedding recently...they had spent quite a bit on the wedding and made it a fancy evening affair, but no alcohol, of course, which meant NO ONE danced. It would kind if stink to end up with an empty dance floor. I think it is safer to assume that a lot of people may not dance without alcohol, and to make sure they have something else to do besides dance.

    I always like an open bar, but I most definetly do not get offended if they have a cash bar, as long as the have enough free options. As long as there is plenty of tea or water around, I am perfectly content. I usually just buy a drink or two and then stick to whats on the table. Most of the cash bar weddings I have been to, I knew going into it that these were not people with unlimited means, and never would have expected them to be buying everyone's liquor!!

     

    Sorry this was so long!!

     
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    MaybeeBecca    August 22, 2009   Kansas City, MO

    I don't drink and my FI drinks only minimally, plus a lot of our friends don't drink. Because alcohol isn't really part of our lifestyle, we didn't even really consider having it at our wedding. But in the end, I think it really has to do with you and your fiance. I definitely think it's okay to not have alcohol at a wedding and those who attend would be rude to complain about it.

     
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    MaybeeBecca    August 22, 2009   Kansas City, MO

    P.S. My fiance is not a dancer by any means, so the idea of having a reception with minimal dancing sounded great to him anyhow :-D

     
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    naangel55    June 20, 2009   Long Beach, CA

    I dont think its required, but more so expected.  Obviously when you go to alot of weddings and there is alcohol at every one, and then if you go to a wedding and there isnt, you notice.  I would think it also has to do with what is the norm with your family and friends, or a certain situtation that would be it awkward to have alcohol.  Assad as it sounds, alcohol (at least for some if not most people), will make everyone have alot more fun and dance and thats just what people have come to expect.

     
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    I guess I should clarify that I don't think there's anything wrong with having alcohol, just that it seems silly to me that people feel required to serve alcohol.  It bugs me that people feel pressured into doing something they can't afford and get stuck between offending people who abide by the rules of etiquette and offending people who can't imagine surviving a few hours without a drink.  That's part of it that I really don't get- I don't need to drink to dance or have a good time.  

     
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    tessabella76    September 12, 2009   Ohio

    The last two weddings I've gone to did not serve alcohol at all. And at both weddings everyone was up and dancing and having a good time.

     
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    peanutlovespumpkin    9-18-10   Los Angeles

    I think all of this cash bar/open bar wet/dry stuff depends 110% on the group of people attending the wedding.  My circle of friends, mostly from college, would never dream of having a wedding without a full open bar - it's one of the top priorities and a "given".  However, I've gone to a few weddings of family friends, where the crowd was mostly families with only the bridal party members of the same age as the bride and groom, where it was wine/beer/cash bar or something like that, and I don't think people even noticed - it wasn't a party-centric crowd.  Just go with whatever works for you!

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    mambinki    October 17, 2009   Seattle, WA

    Well, I think like a lot of bees wrote, this really depends on the families and cultures.  My FI's family barely drinks at all.  However, my family is ALL social drinkers, myself and my FI included.  For my family and friends, it isn't just that they want to get intoxicated, but that they really love wine (my parents do winetasting tours) and beer (my FI and brother will totally be doing a brewery tour the day of the wedding!) so of course, we will serve some wine and beer at the reception.  We're not serving booze though so the price won't be too much. 

    I have been to wedding where there was no booze and it was really dissapointing for a lot of people.  It felt like a really stiff reception and hardly anyone wanted to dance.  But again this all depends on the people and the situation.

    Being as clear as possible is important so that people know what to expect.  For example, my FI's family knows that there will be drinking and alcohol served but they don't have to drink adn there will also be soda, juice, coffee, dancing, etc.  Also, my family knows that most members of my FI's family don't drink so just to be considerate of that! 

     
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    SwedishFish    8-15-09   Chicago, IL

    I agree with the other posters who say that (like so many other wedding customs) it really depends on your family/region/culture/religion etc. whether you feel strongly about having an open bar or a cash bar or a dry wedding.  I think Muslim weddings almost always forbid alcohol, and I'd never imagine someone would say that was tacky.

    On the other hand, I do feel pretty strongly that an open bar is a high priority for my own wedding -- not because I feel like people need drinks to have a good time (my family hardly drinks at all), but because my fiance & I (and our families) really value good food and good wine/beer.  We love to go wine tasting, and we get really excited about artisanal cocktails and all of that stuff.  To me, a nice glass of wine (or a really good beer) is the perfect accompaniment to good food, so I always want to extend good drinks to my guests as well.  And I personally associate champagne toasts with weddings and celebrations, so of course I'd want champagne at my wedding.  

    The social lubrication of an open bar is a bonus, but I don't think it's the only reason or the most important reason to have alcohol at a wedding.  I do think there are reasons for guests to prefer an open bar that aren't just about getting trashed on someone else's dime -- although of course people should do what works for them personally (like with any other regional custom) and not judge.

     

     
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    avdillard0110    May 17, 2009   Savannah, GA

    I will have to echo that everyone and every situation is different.

    My parents have a stong problem with alcohol and refused to pay for it. My husband's parents couldn't afford it, and my husband and I certainly couldn't afford it. It would have been $650 out of our pockets to even have a cash bar, so we decided that given the fact that it was a Sunday evening wedding, most people would be driving 2-3 hours home that night, the alcoholism that runs rampant in our family, the partying nature of our friends, my parents' objections, AND the cost just to have a cash bar, much less an open bar (at least $1000), it was not worth it.

    And no one complained. It was a lovely wedding. I am 100% happy with our decision.

     
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    Erindesmar    October 17, 2009   Boston, MA

    Ditto @doctorgirl.  I have to echo others' comments that if it is going to be a dry wedding and/or you have to pay cash to procure a drink, just give your guests a heads up in some way before the wedding (website, word of mouth, invitation, whatever...)

     

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