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Why marriage matters--even if you live in a state that doesn't recognize it

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    2dBride    October 6, 2009   Washington, DC.

    Check out this story of the guy whose Iowa legal same-sex marriage was recognized by the Naval Academy, even though it was not recognized by either federal law or the law of his home state.  The existence of a marriage license totally changed the way the Academy treated him.

     
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    Beluga    July 16, 2011  

    I read that a couple of days ago! It is an amazing story - everyone should pass it around.

     
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    mrsmdphd    April 17, 2009  

    That's awesome!

     
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    MsInterpret    March 19, 2011   lesbian couple, married in Iowa, live in san antonio TX

    @2dBride:  Awesome!  FI and I are taking the same Government class in college right now.  For our grade, we have to do a Senate simulation and we have to work to try and change a law.  We are working on a fictional repeal of DOMA!   Our Professor was all excited that we're marrying in Iowa (we told him since we'll have to miss 2 days of school after Spring Break as a result)... he is already urging us to be the couple that brings about legal challenges back in Texas, so he can say he "knew us when".  ;)  

     
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    Mrs Grape    December 10, 2010  

    I was so proud when Iowa (my home state) made same-sex marriage legal. What a beautiful story! I teared up a little...lol. Everyone, no matter their gender, should be treated with respect and dignity. I think it's crappy that there are still states that do not recognize same-sex marriage and I hope it changes soon. Choose love. Celebrate love every day.

     
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    bluespurrs    August 7, 2009   South-central PA, USA, Earth

    My nephew is gay and plans to marry his SO someday. I am majorly PO'ed as his parents already told him that they will NOT be attending the wedding! Like he's still their son, why can't they be happy for him? DH and I will most certainly be there to share in his happiness!

     
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    2dBride    October 6, 2009   Washington, DC.

    @bluespurrs:  This is one of the things I have never understood.  Even if you take every word of the Bible as true, and treat homosexuality as a sin, parents love children who commit other sins, ranging from adultery to wearing garments made from more than one type of fiber.  (Yes, the latter is also forbidden by the Old Testament.)  Yet somehow, a whole lot of people treat homosexuals as so uniquely sinful that their families cannot support them, while being willing to overlook all sorts of other sins on the part of their children.

     
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    bellagio    October 1, 2011   Arizona

    Homosexuality is only mentioned 6 times in the bible – 6 times in thousands of pages. Unicorns are mentioned more. There are so many things wrong with using the bible to persecute same sex couples and deny them rights (including the mixed fibers part you mention), I don't even know where to start.

     
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    2dBride    October 6, 2009   Washington, DC.

    @bellagio:  The other interesting thing is that only male homosexuality, not lesbianism, is mentioned in the Old Testamant.  And there is only one reference in the New Testament to homosexuality.  It is Romans 1:26-27, which reads (in the King James version) as follows:

    For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    This is the one passage that the fundamentalists use to justify their hatred for homosexuality.  However, consider it in context (Romans 1:21-27):

    21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

    22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

    23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

    25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    Clearly, the sin described is not homosexuality.   The sin is failing to glorify God, and making images of God as a corruptible man or an animal.  The punishment is that God made them homosexual.  (And one can see why that would be a punishment, in a society in which having children was the only way to provide for one's old age.)  Two things are clear from the passage in Romans:

    1. If in all the words spoken by Jesus, not a single mention was made of homosexuality, then it was clearly not high on the list of crimes.
    2. The very passage cited says that people are made homosexual by God, rather than choosing it on their own.

    Thus, no part of the Bible ever says that lesbianism is sinful.  And the only part of the New Testament that discusses homosexuality treats it as something imposed by God, not a sin.  The antipathy toward homosexuality can in no way be justified by the Bible.

     
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    Snowy414    August 20, 2011   Colorado

    Thank you for sharing.  That story warms my heart and made me tear up.  Its about love and respect and what a beautiful story to show that.

     

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