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I've heard both sides of it. Some people saying they want marriage and looking down on those who decide not to, and then those who decide not to, looking down on those who want to get married. It sounds like a lot of flag waving to me (or even Dr. Suess' butter side up/butter side down battle). To each their own...no one's better because of the lifestyle they choose, and no minority or majority of opinion is better either.
This came up on Offbeat bride too...
http://offbeatbride.com/2008/01/commitment-without-the-marriage
Oh, and to answer your question :) ...not really. I know two couples who aren't going to get married, but they aren't like "my decision is better than yours". It's simply a personal choice.
No, mostly people are just amazed that my FI is actually getting married. He was the perrenial bachelor.
uuummm... i used to think marriage wasnt for me, until i met Mr.Shoes - but i never thought marriage "ruined" a good thing or vice versa
i dont think being married makes one better than those who choose not to get married - it's a personal choice
I have not had anyone say that! Although I have had a couple guys at work tell me about their crazy long engagements - apparently their women just won't set a date or keep postponing. One asked me: Why did she say Yes if she didn't really want to get married? Its hard to tell if people like your coworkers really disapprove of marriage, or just feel bad about their own situation (unmarried or bad marriage). Maybe they just want to know how it all worked out so good for you, and figure out how to get some of that for themselves.
Most of my friends are shocked that I would ever get married, as I have been travelling career woman for as long as they have known me. My FI, who is divorced 5 years, is a totally marrying kind of guy.
the only person who said something to me to that effect was divorced and (in my opinion) bitter, so i just brushed it off. i've had more of the "why spend all that money on a wedding when you could do XX (insert flashy item, house, retirement, etc. here)." to each his own.
No one has told me that either. And my boss at my NEW JOB (yes, I changed jobs since the whole nasty "engagement ring too big" story but I digress... ) my boss and his S.O. have been living together for 20 years. They don't feel the need to get married but are certainly happy for me and my decision.
Everyone's right. To each their own. It's a personal decision.
I know how you feel unfortunately!
On more than one occasion I've had bitter people stop by my desk and say that I should read their divorce papers before even thinking about getting married...multiple times....
I've only worked here a few months, so it seems weird to me that people are being that forawrd about that kind of stuff!
oh well, to each his own...
AlyOMTU that is horrible. Yeah i havent gotten as far as the divorce paper thing but i guess i just have to brush it off and not let it affect me! Thanks everyone for the comments, i completely support people who dont want to get married and the people who do, i just think it gets catty from both angles and people tend to place judgement. which is really mean
and hurtful thing to do.
But thanks all! I really appreciate all the feedback!
yeah unfortunately i have experienced this too! i met a woman for the first time at a work function & by the end of the night (after she knew i was engaged), i knew about her "no-good" husband, her work affair, and their 2 kids. oh and how she planned to start divorce proceedings within the year. and shes not even 30. then she introed me to another woman there who was recently divorced & it was just a huge marriage- bashing event. who are these people??
It always amazes me that people feel it is okay to force their opinions on others . . . I experienced this too, at work. A female co-worker told me to keep the LDR as it was and only see each other on weekends, we'd be much happier in the long run. Is it no surprise that she was divorced, more than once? I don't know. Anyway, like a duck in water let it all just roll of your back . . . is that how the saying goes? You all know what I mean. I feel sorry for people who are that unhappy . . . and jealous when they see a good thing. I say talk about your wedding and upcoming nuptials with gusto and all the joy you are feeling! ![]()
Just the other day one of our clients made a comment out of the blue to one of my coworkers that she should never get married, it's the worst thing ever, waste of time, blah blah blah. When she told me this I was not surprised because I knew his story. He's currently going through a divorce and get this... his soon to be ex-wife works for the same company as me! I looked her up on our intranet. I don't know if he was hoping we'd pass on that message to her. I think people should keep comments like that to themselves. I'm sorry some people get married and end up in a bad divorce but they shouldn't tell you what to do with your life. Maybe marriage isn't for everyone and that's ok.
I did have a coworker that by their comments made it seem like I was making the wrong choice. I simply told that person thank you for your opinion but this is what I want to do. Hey! If my parents (who were VERY strict parents 'til I was about 20) are ok with this marriage then that's all the support I need.
In order to counteract all the negativity, is there a couple you could talk to that would be an advocate for marriage? I personally have several older couples I know (particularly from church) who have been married a long time and have been through a lot together who think that marriage is the greatest thing in the world. A lot of our generation didn't grow up with our parents being good role models for marriage (I know I didn't), so it's nice to talk to couples who have really gone in for the long haul and take their marriage very seriously.
At the very least, you would get a different viewpoint!
I feel like that is jealousy talking -at least in my experience. IGNORE them. I have always been genuinely happy for friends/acquaintances who become engaged, so I kinda expected the same in return. Yeah, no. (Bitter much?)
The funny thing is, if you want to find vehemently pro-marriage people, just check out the gay couples you know. We have become all too aware of the importance of marriage, as we have historically been unable to participate at all, and still do not receive the full legal protections of marriage.
those people are completely rude and probably the sorts of people no one wants to marry! tell them where to go and enjoy your preparations :)
@jhearta: You have phenominally rude co-workers. I think the best response is a level stare and complete silence. Let them squirm in their own rudeness. If they continue in the same vein, abruptly change the subject or simply walk away. Do not engage them in a debate about marriage or justify yourself to them. You don't owe them that and they'll just use it as an opportunity for more put downs.
What strange comments! I've never had anyone express their opinion in such way, and I do know people who do not believe in marriage. Your co-workers are simply strange and rude, luckily they're not your friends to you don't have to worry too much about their opinion or attitude!
I have only ever head those kinds of comments from those who have had bad experiences with marriage. Don't let their bitterness contaminate you.
My husband shut one of these commenters up with "Marriage is the most serious and public commitment you can make to another person. How could I settle for anything less with the woman I will spend the rest of my life with?"
Like people said above, I only heard this from my FI's male friends who were divorced. I found it reallt nice though that once we got engaged they acted really happy for us and all comments like that ceased.
Wow! Some of you work with horrible people! I would just say "Mind your business." if anyone said that to me.
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So this may seem like a weird post, but this has been bothering me lately. Since my FI and I got engaged I have been super quiet about it at work. I dont want to come off as "the girl who just talks wedding"
which i am. he he. Anyway several people at my work have said before how they just dont see the point in getting married, (long pause) waiting for me to almost justify it... and then they say "why ruin a good think with marriage" ! umm maybe i am uber sensitive about this but i feel that they are judging me for getting married.
Has anyone experienced someone saying this to you? Or along the lines of why get married?