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    tulipandtummy    July 27, 2011  

    Hi bees! I just want to vent really quick...

     

    I'm glad everyone loves their dresses! I really am. And it's great that everyone loves the dresses in themselves more then the stock/model photos.

    But it really bothers me that everyone feels they need to comment on how bad the dress looks on the models and how sickly they look. I understand they very one has a right to their opinion, but just like u wouldn't comment on someones picture and them someone else, or everyone else can rock the dress better then them, I don't think it is very kind to say that about the models.

    Only reason why I'm saying this is because I am a wedding dress model. And I have joined wedding bee as a bride in the pat for help but was and continue to be hurt by the mean comments directed towards us models... I have seen a few pics of myself either taken off the designers website or whatever with hurtful comments.

    I am NOT anorexic or sickly either. Just a little upset. 

     
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    Because honestly, 99% of wedding stock photos I see, the bride looks hunched over and contorted into an unflattering pose, or has been photoshopped to unrealistic proportions for a human. I'm sure the models are lovely, but yeah, it would be nice to see some non model brides for a change, as most women don't look like that and would like to get a more accurate view of what that dress would look like on their body.

    Plus the scowling, miserable expressions I so often see don't exactly scream "Yay I'm getting married!"

     
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    AmeliaBedelia    March 3, 2012   Georgia

    I'm sorry that you feel this way and that people's comments have upset you. I don't know the exact instances, but most people don't say the models look sickly, anorexic or whatever. I'm sure some might, but most don't.

    I for one DO think I look better than the model in my dress picture, but I would never trash her. I don't even remember what she looks like, only that I completely passed over my dress online because it didn't have any impact. Some dresses are like that. Some styles look better on some people, and there should be a variety of sizes in wedding dress model photographs to appropriately show off the way the dress looks.

     
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    MrsSage    October 2013   Pennsylvania, USA

    Must agree.  Everyone, regardless of shape, size, age, color, or what aesthetic qualities may  have you, are beautiful and worthy of respect.  I'm not sure if this is what you're addressing (I don't commonly lurk in threads about dresses), but as someone who is plus size and involved in many "Love Yourself" campaigns, there seems to be this acceptance of putting down others in an attempt to justify your own beauty that may not be as much of a focus in media like magazines or television.  But putting down the models that may have bodies or a certain looks that magazines use more often, you're doing the same thing.  Beauty does not come in only one shape or form, and calling someone "annorexic and sickly looking" is not okay. </slightly incoherent & sleep ramble> 

    =)

     
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    tulipandtummy    July 27, 2011  

    I understand. And trust me when I say that posing like we have cramps isn't fun. But I still dothat think that attackingthe models physical shape is necessary.... :( models actually he wedding dress models are much bigger then runway/editorial models. I am one out of a handful that does both. They usual models chosen for dress work are a bit bigger, they need to be so that the dress doesn't overwhelm them. So when I see comments, which I have unfortunately, about us "anorexic" models it hurts. 

     

    Yes some monuts are anorexic but to just assume a disorder on someone is mean.

     

    But thanks for the reassuring words guys :)

     

     
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    tulipandtummy    July 27, 2011  

    @MrsSage: THANK YOU SOO MUCH!!!

     
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    Juliepants    June 2, 2012   Ontario

    @MrsSage: "there seems to be this acceptance of putting down others in an attempt to justify your own beauty"  <--- that's interesting and sometimes very true!

    OP, I don't think I've ever thought anything negative about a wedding dress model's body shape, but I'm not a big fan of many of the poses and facial expressions!  You models probably don't have much control over that part (I imagine there must be direction coming from the photographer or someone) but some of the poses and expressions are downright awful (and like you said, no fun)!  :)

     
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    Show us some of your pics!

     
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    msfahrenheit    August 28, 2011   Blacksburg VA

    @MrsSage: I agree 100%. Sometime I think people forget that models are real women with real body image issues just like the rest of us.

     
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    sexxysheddy    October 21, 2012   Dirty Jersey

    I think sometimes the models are knocked down because the pictures are photoshop and show stick figure. I know I am guilty of saying "never judge a dress by the model wearing it". I know a few people who think that because some of the models are not curve means the dress will not look right on them. I for one when I was dress shoping was looking for a dress that was worn by a model that had a similar body type to myself.

     
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    SouthernCJ    August 4, 2012   Mississippi, wedding in Michigan

    @MrsSage: Such a great post, I totally agree. The woman who models my dress and I could be sisters, there is a pretty uncanncy resemeblence and we are both tall and thin. I am sure all of you look beautiful in your wedding gowns. But all women are beautiful, including the models who wear them. Love each other, ya'll Smile

     
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    bookworm88    August 4, 2012  

    I agree, I want to see you!

    For me, it's definitely not the models themselves but rather the editing and Photoshop that makes me upset.  I don't want to see a computer-inhanced person with an impossible body in any sort of advertisement.

     
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    colli459    December 28, 2012   Baltimore, MD

    I'm really sorry that you've felt this way. I hardly think that anyone had meant a personal attack. Does it make it ok? No. Do we all have moments of insecurity that maaaaaybe don't always come out in the best light? Possibly. I am sorry that they put you in some of those unbelievably awkward positions just to sell a product. Thank you for shedding some light on the modeling industry. By all means, post a picture of yourself so we can continue to compliment you!

     
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    Eva Peron    November 2011  

    I'd also love to see some of your work. I have seen you in your dress per your previous posts and you are very beautiful!

     
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    when people complain about the models, they mean to complain about the industry image that has a very narrow view of what is beautiful. obviously, models are good-looking people, but there is an extreme lack of variety in the sizes and shapes (and in many cases, ethnicities) of the models used. yes, they're beautiful, but they aren't the only type of beautiful out there.

    unfortunately, the hate of the people creating this narrow definition of beauty is sometimes turned towards the models themselves, who are obviously not to blame for all our societal woes. sorry that you've seen so much of this. two wrongs don't make a right.

     
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    Crabbabs    September 8, 2012   Madison, Wisconsin

    I think most of the comments are based on the photo-shopping of the model and not the models themselves. I've heard a lot of comments about the poses and faces the models make - again, it's not the model themselves - but what the photographer/designer wants. 

    I'm sorry you feel like that (and I can understand why you do) but try to see it from a non-model perspective. 

    ETA @laceywings sums it up pretty well!

     
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    tulipandtummy    July 27, 2011  

    Thank u all so much :) I'm really happy to see that not everyone is cold hearted ):):):) 

     

    I do have personal pics up on a board somewhere here :P and I keep trying to upload some other pics from modeling but wb isn't allowing it... Giving me an error :/ Or maybe it's my iPhone... 

    And yes sometimes the pics are photoshopped WAAAAY to much. And that makes EERYONE feel like Crap. But oh well, what can u do? :)

     

    Thansk for the live and kind words everyone :*

     
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    Booknerd    March 14, 2015  

    @tulipandtummy: I have a question as a budding photographer - why do they have you pose in that manner?  I mean, when I shoot actual weddings and shoot the brides by themselves, I try to make sure they look as comfortable as possible.  Or when you model for the dresses is it more about showing off the dress? (I have no problem with model's sizes - I would LOVE to photograph models in wedding attire! - I'm just curious as to why the positions and such?)

     
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    tulipandtummy    July 27, 2011  

    I have NO IDEA! Actually I do haha . Wedding dress is like couture/ editorial/ high fashion. When we think highfashio itss all about sharp angles and and stuff. :) that's why. Use of shadows and such can be exaggerated I guess through body positioning. I'm just saying that because that's what one snooty photog said to me. But I'm sure you r nice! ;)

     
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    @tulipandtummy: Where are you located?  May have some work for ya!

     
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    tulipandtummy    July 27, 2011  

    @USER876: aww that's so nice! I'm actually in Chicago. I am contracted right noW with BMG Models. But it's going to end in a month and I'm not looking to renew it. I jut gotmarried and want to spend time with my DH :)):) 

     
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    rambleonrose    October 22, 2012  

    i think a lot of times people say the real bride looks better than the model because the model is posing, where the real bride is glowing because it's (hopefully) one of the best days of her life. i think you just can't outshine that genuine excitement and happiness of a real bride. when i say the real dress looks better than on the model, it's usually because the dress (and all the wonderful details) just can't be captured on camera. plus, magazine shoots usually have a lot going on (background, poses, photoshop, etc). i do agree with you though, sometimes it's easy to forget that these women are real people with real feelings. unfortunately, the fashion industry has pressured some women to be far under their natural weight, which is a health issue. but tall and skinny IS a body type that some people do naturally have! it's really not fair to assume every model has an eating disorder.

     
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    MrsNeutrino    July 2012  

    I think models are fierce with their sharp couture poses but for sure not everyone can appreciate that. 

     
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    cutexkitty    October 1, 2011   Bay Area / Northern CA

    @MrsNeutrino: Ditto. 

     
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    tulipandtummy    July 27, 2011  

    @cutexkitty: ditto times 2 ;)

     
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    PurpleUnicorn    April 19, 2011  

    for me its not the poses, but the photoshopping. i would love to see your model pictures, but also compare them with the actual picture before they were edited.  i am sure both will be beautiful, but the latter will represent what you really look like.  So when i look at models in wedding dresses, i learned quickly that the photos tell you nothing about how they will look on me.

    With my specific wedding dress, what i really didnt like about the stock photo was the hoop the model was wearing under the dress. i found it took away from the beauty of the dress.  It actually looked completely in different in person and on every "real" bride i have my dress on. 

     
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    Porkchop    March 31, 2012  

    I honestly think all of the models from VS down to the Wedding models are absolutely gorgeous! I'd love to have that figure! The only thing that matters is how you feel about yourself <3

     
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    PinkMagnolia    November 2011  

    Honesly I never really looked at the wedding dress photos. Even when I see the model in my dress, it doesn't really resemble how the dress looked like on me.

    What an interesting job though!!

     
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    i would love to see some photos of your dress modeling

     
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    ncsuzyq626    October 20, 2012   monmouth beach, nj

    that must be so frustrating. you are lucky enough to make your body your career and then people knock you down for it. they are just jealous. everyone has negative things to say online but would the same people be so brash to say it to your face? probably not!

    ive always been naturally skinny and believe me it wasnt a picnic. in middle school it was horrible! i was really tall and skinny and NO curves. yikes.

    can you believe i even had a gyno ask me if i had an eating disorder?? i was like hello, your job is to stay below the belt!! also, a doctor should know what someone with an eating disorder looks like and should especially know what metabolism is!

    anyway, i'm in my mid twenties and am starting to fully embrace my skinny and tallness. i'm not a model (i wish!) and sometimes its hard to be the tallest one amongst the bunch. my fiancee is tall, thank God! and I like platforms, dang it!

    i get mad sometimes when people say things that they want to see more "real" models. well, skinny people are real too. i'm pretty sure im a human and not a robot. i'm real! and i am full of flaws too. we need to embrace ALL shapes and yes that means skinny shapes too!

    end the skinny hate!

     
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    khf777    October 12, 2012   New Orleans

    @tulipandtummy:  I really hate to open a can of worms, but I was just trying to find some of your modeling pics and I found your post about being anorexic. I am sorry to hear this and I hope you get help and that you're doing well. Maybe this will shed some light on why regular girls feel that the models sometimes look anorexic?

     
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    MalbecMe    July 2012   Canada

    @khf777:  touche.

     
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    MrsBlueSeptember    September 30, 2012  

    Wow. :|

     

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