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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    Most Mondays we get an email from the boss.. and sometimes, they're prayer related. Today we received a "HANDY LITTLE CHART - GOD HAS A POSITIVE ANSWER" with things to think about:

    YOU SAY  

    GOD SAYS  

    BIBLE VERSES  

    You say:  'It's impossible'  

    God says:   All things are possible  

    ( Luke 18:27)  

    You say:  'I'm too tired'  

    God says:  I will give you rest  

    ( Matthew 11:28-30)  

    This list goes on. My company is not small. Anyone else have this issue? It makes me uncomfortable.

     
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    Chillmer    May 30, 2010   Milwaukee

    Yes, I find that pretty inappropriate for work.  I'm a pushover and I'd just delete it, though.

    I had to tell my boss "no more politics in the workplace" because his extreme conservative views were off-putting to me.  I think he's out of touch with reality.  He thinks if a woman is considering an abortion she should carry the baby, give it up for adoption, have her tubes tied afterwards.  Uh, okay.  That's a really great solution there, Boss.  Because that wouldn't cost tens of thousands of dollars or anything, and maybe she would want to have a baby later in life but just isn't ready now.  It made me angry so I told him we had to keep politics out of our discussion.

     
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    JenniBride    December 2011   Manitoba

    Wow, that would make me super uncomfortable!  Luckily for me I've never had to deal with something like this, so I can't offer any specific advice/commiseration, but that is not work appropriate IMO unless you work for a company that is affiliated with a specific religion/church/what-have-you.

    Good luck dealing with this sensitive issue! 

    ETA: jeez Chillmer, I think I would have lost it hearing some garbage like that! Good on you for keeping your cool.

     
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    Moose1209       Nashville, TN

    That would make me extremely uncomfortable... and I'm Christian!  Since your company isn't small do you have an HR department you can go to?  I'm pretty sure this is actually against the law not just inappropriate.

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    This is just typical.. I have also asked my manager to talk to the group about keeping politics out of people's mouths but get no response back. I can't stand mixing work with religions - it's not appropriate. It's not something i'd be comfortable bringing up to HR though, but if I gathered all these up, put in one big email and FWed it to HR, it'd feel pretty good. But I'd have to be on my way OUT already.

    ETA - i just did a quick basic search on that person's name and the word "god" and got 15 results.

     
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    greenleafmountain    7.31.2010  

    I'm a Christian, and it would make me uncomfortable. To me, my faith is a very personal matter, and I only discuss it with those who I feel close to.  I would not want to get into theological discussions with my boss.  For me, more often than not, those cutesy email forwards just make light of something that I see as very important and serious in my life, and that's what I find offensive. 

    It is not appropriate for a professional setting.  Is this person the biggest boss, or does he/she have a higher up?  Or is there a HR department you can talk to?  It might be best to find someone who can try to gently dissuade your boss from sending them.  You don't want to go in and say "hey you aren't allowed to send these" because that often only makes the type of people who send them even more apt to continue (because they would consider that "persecution". Yeah.  I wonder what the people in the world who are actually persecuted for their religion would think about that.)  But if someone can talk to him/her and try to gently convince them that this probably isn't the best way to represent his/her faith to the employees, that might work better.

     
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    gabrielleelise1981    August 28, 2010   Portland, Maine

    Does your company have an anonymous “ethics line” or anon line to HR? Our company has an anon number and e mail where you can e mail/call in ethical complaints/concerns you see in the workplace, if you don’t want to go to your general HR contact.

    If your company is large, maybe they have an option like that?

    BTW, that e-mail you received is totally inappropriate for a work-place.

     
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    Roux    December 2, 2012   Ballarat, Australia

    Wow, that is totally inappropriate. I'd contact HR.

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    I'll look into the anonymous submission thing, as i'm trying to transfer within my company (I want out of this dept) and don't want to rock the boat. I've asked this person for her advice and help before and received no response, so if I tell her her preaching has to stop i'm sure that she'll be even LESS helpful. I didn't read thru that whole email, by the way. The ending reads:

    Father, God, bless all my friends in whatever it is that you know they may need this day! And may their lives be full of your peace, prosperity and power as they seek to have a closer relationship with you.. Amen. 
    P.S. More is better; who else do you know that needs prayer? 
    Make it a wonderful day!!!
     

     

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    Wow that makes me so uncomfortable.  It is not her place to send things like that if you are or aren't a Christian.  I would talk to her superior.  That could probably be considered religious persecution.

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    Yeah, that's totally inappropriate. I would complain to HR as well.

     
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    greenleafmountain    7.31.2010  

    Does she send any other forwards that aren't religious in nature.  It might get better results if you complain about "email forwards" in general and non-work related emails, rather than religious emails (even though those are the problem).

     
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    Serya    October 7, 2011   Frederick, MD

    I don't find this appropriate at all and I would certainly talk to HR about it.

     
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    Amaryllis    July 2, 2011  

    Have you tried talking to your boss that it makes you uncomfortable, or do you think that would endanger your job or create an awkward environment? I think they're very inappropriate, but having been on the other end of a situation, I have come to dislike it when someone goes to the next higher up without confronting the problem first. Your boss may be clueless that these inappropriate emails are bothering anyone; some people really just are that naive as to what is acceptable or not. Good luck!

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    She sends a weekly email forward with words of encouragement - not a bad idea. but since she finds encouragement in religion, that's the tone of a lot of emails. Some emails do not have prayer etc, though. Thankfully this isn't a frequent occurence! But i will tell you I am in the minority in this office, being non-christian and liberal-minded.

     
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    Jacqi    February 28, 2009  

    I think you should talk to whoever sent that email and ask to be removed from the religious ones. But honestly, reading that email probably would help me to have a wonderful day. So you could probably go about it by telling whoever sent the email that you understand it may be helpful to some, but for you is has the opposite effect, and you don't want to be sent emails of that nature anymore.

     
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    Gemstone    July 2011   Cincinnati

    I'm a Christian, and I am surprised by the fact that this would be sent out to a larger company. I think it's inappropriate because it assumes 1) that all employees follow the same faith and 2) that faith is Christianity.

     
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    lilyfaith    June 23, 2012   Lakeview, Chicago

    That's very inappropriate. I think you need to say something at least anonymously. I'm sure that makes some other people feel uncomfortable, too, even if it doesn't appear that way. Just because it makes one person feel good does not excuse it. 

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    Not OK for work. Is the guy an idiot, mailing that stuff out?! I mean, REALLY!

    Whether or not it helps some people or is a 'good message' is not the point, really. It's illegal at our company. I'd imagine it's probably not legal at most companies.

    In general, email forwards are just not okay at my office. Unless they involved funny animals. And sometimes i get a joke email from my 60+ year old coworker about "women in the workplace" with a "har har" at the bottom.

     
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    Soon2beeMrsM    October 2010   NY

    @Melissa- Yes it's very inappropriate for the work place!

    Do you have interoffice/building mail? Can you print the emails for HR (black out your address so it's a mystery on who it's from) with a note saying it's offensive and not everyone shares the same religious beliefs and you are pretty sure it's illegal? If you type it all (don't save to your computer) then print and send interoffice nobody will know. FI had an issue at work and that is what he did, got the message across w/out giving up the fact that it was him.

     
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    chelseamorning    November 1, 2008   Washington, DC/Atlanta

    I would also try to bring this to the attention of HR anonymously. I like the idea of printing the emails out with your contact information removed and submitting to HR through interoffice mail. It is definitely inappropriate for the workplace. Recently I had to take one of those online training courses for workplace harrassment and religious harrassment is part of it. There is a difference between self-expression and forcing your beliefs on others. For example, it would be okay to have a Christian-themed calendar on your wall, but it would not be okay to send everyone Christian-related emails without their consent. One is a passive expression (OK) and the other is active without the other party's consent (not OK). Your boss needs to keep her religious-themed emails to herself or send them only to people who have expressly said they like to receive such content. I am a Christian and this makes me uncomfortable because I can think of so many people who it would make uncomfortable, and I feel uncomfortable on their behalf.

     
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    Bamboo    June 2010   Midwest

    I don't think it is appropriate, but I'm not sure you can do much but reflect your concerns to the person and hr and then let them handle it.

     
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    Arachna       nyc

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