Post # 1
I know there are ladies out there who are frustrated by the WIC upsell that most venues (and everything else) has, and I am looking for imput on a particular situation. I posted on a similar thread, but it doesnt seem to be bumping, so I thought I’d make a new one.
I was looking around online and found a beautiful local park (municipal government level), and saw that they rent the space for weddings. I looked on their booking page, and saw that a ‘one time rental’ of up to 4 hours was $42, while a wedding of up to 4 hours was $102. I rechecked their weddings page, and there is no service at all provided for weddings, its just simply more expensive. Since there is no service or staff involved, and it is not a private business, my questions are these:
1. Would you negotiate with a government (municipal) agency? Do you think there’d be much wiggle room?
2. Would it be totally unethical to call it a “family reunion”, given the fact that there is no staff that have to work the event, only a rental of the blank space?
I am nowhere near booking a ceremony site, but am curious what everyone thinks! I would be tempted to lie, but would be nervous about having the event shut down if they found out. I would be interested in negotiating, but am curious if a government agency even does negotiating. Thoughts please!
Post # 2
MissPoutine: Flash mob wedding. I don’t believe in paying more $$ without more value. If wedding means that they don’t double book the space, then I’d be willing to pay a premium for it.
If it there’s no exclusivity, no staffing, no additional coordination, there’s no reason to pay more, IMO.
Post # 3
- Wedding: October 2013 - Dalhousie Castle
I agree with PP. Don’t pay more for nothing. I’d call it a family gathering and not feel bad about it at all.
Post # 4
I am going to go against the grain and say you should be honest and pay the rate they are suggesting. Most business’ charge more for weddings than other parties. Why would you think it is right to rip off a Government run local park but not another venue?
I mean the rate is obscenly low any way you spin it. 4hrs at any other venue would probably cost you $100 per hour.
The income that is generated by these kinds of things help improve the facilties of the municipality which are used for free (library, parks etc) by the public. Why shouldn’t they capitalise on it like every other business in the wedding business? I mean a wedding cake usually costs more than a non-wedding cake even if you order something comparable.
The fact of the matter is if you disagree with their fee schedule you are free to go elsewhere. If you want to get married there then pay the fee (and you can try to negotiate but I very much doubt that they will budge since fees are normally set at a council/municipal meeting and part of the fixed budget).
Post # 5
j_jaye: I totally agree with you! In fact, I’d be more likely to use the space knowing (hoping) that the money would go towards making the community better, and supporting services. My issue is with a blatant use of the “wedding tax”- that they are charging 2.5 times more for the exact same thing, JUST because it’s a wedding. That’s something I would expect from a business, but I am disappointed that municipal government would do that. IMO, if you need to fund your services off park rentals, make everything $60 (still a great deal!) and dont discriminate against certain events. What if for a family reunion, someone brings out 75 people with tables and chairs and lawn games, but my ceremony of 25 just has 2 buckets of flowers and a couple chairs for elderly guests? Why should I pay a premium for that? Just venting! Wedding tax gets me all riled up 😛
Post # 6
j_jaye: And the funny thing is, is that I would have no issue omitting the fact that my cake was for a wedding, or any other supply (not service) vendor, because I dont necessarily want the ‘wedding treatment’ (how vendors say that brides need PERFECTION, but all other clients are okay with getting regular) for a fee. If I’m going to buy or order some single tier cakes, theres no way I’d mention theyre for a wedding, and have some fee attached or an upsell pushed on me. If it was something like a photographer, thats a whole other story!
Post # 7
MissPoutine: Don’t worry I agree that the wedding tax sucks but I guess I don’t see why a government entity shouldn’t cash in as well especially since it is going to help the community rather than line someones pocket. As I said at the end of the day they are probably way cheaper than a private business venue so you are already winning.