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i just needed to add that i just am so afraid that they might dampen the "special" feeling about our engagement. Does this make me a brat?
No you aren't a brat at all!!! He is the brat & thats being too kind. I find it incredibly selfish to discourage you two from getting married so he can get married. What the... your anger is completely justified.
He sounds like a piece of work. Be happy you got the good brother :)
I will be completely honest in saying i dont think that their marriage will ever actually happen. As rude as that may sound. I also dont think hes doing this out of malice or hatred, but he is just genuinely CLUELESS and doesnt see it as an issue-- but who knows, the timing is just too perfect for it to be a coinsidence.... I do care about the kid but weve been giving him tough love for over a year now when it comes to his poor decisions and its really getting to me. Anything but this. Please dont mess with my engagement. =[
Little brothers can be a pain...there is no denying that. However, regardless of his reasons for proposing to his GF, he has the right to do it whenever he wants..and however he wants...with or without ring. Since your BF hasn't proposed yet, I don't see how this proposal will take anything from your proposal in any way. I wouldn't say that you are being a brat...but IMO...it is definitely no too far from it. If your BFs little brother gets married, doesn't get married, breaks the engagement, it shouldn't affect your wedding at all. As long as you guys don't schedule your wedding on the same weekend, I personally don't see the problem.
I know the situation is upsetting for you but in this case...what can you do?? Let them do their thing and you guys do your thing.....the rest will get worked out somehow or another.
Just ignore them and enjoy your own engagement. Try to have as little to do with them as possible. It sounds pretty bad that your brother is into drugs like that. He's going to end up in jail if he keeps doing those things. My brother is also like that and gets in trouble. At my wedding apparently some family members were mad that my brother wasn't a groomsmen. My brother was even upset too. But, when people act immature and do illegal things you need to just put them out of your life for awhile. I didn't want to give him a huge role in my wedding because he is too unpredictable and could have totally ruined my day. I would suggest you keep your distance from the brother and his fiance too.
I mean, you can still talk to them, but don't be involved in their engagement and don't let them be involved in yours. It sounds like they aren't fun people to hang out with either, since they have sex 3 feet away from you. Spend more time with other family members and friends!
I am so sorry this has happened to you! I definitely do not think you are being a brat - HE is being a brat, and that's just a nice four letter word I could think of.
But you know what? The girl he's with has to take some of the responsibility too. She has agreed to do these things with him, so place equal blame on both of them.
I don't want to say "just let it go" because, honestly, you won't. None of us can. But instead of letting them get in your way and ruin your engagement, just enjoy it. This is going to sound awful, but chances are they're relationship won't last. She'll realize it eventually.
I know I'd be livid if this happened to me. I'm sorry that it happened to you :(
*Hugs*
i really appriciate all of your input! I really dont want to come across as a whiney idiot but you have to understand that is "worst nightmare" material. We all want our engagement to feel special regaurdless if what they have is legit or not (it very well may be) i have obviously loaded tension with his brother and this added to it just makes me frustrated. It may not make sense but no one in here would be "ok" with the scenario -- trust me!
I'm sorry! Of course you're not a brat! You have every right to be upset!
Wow that really sucks. If he doesn't clean his life up, he will end up in jail and that girl will leave him when she gets tired of his crap. I promise. Stuff like that doesn't last.
Do your own thing and seriously, don't even listen to them. Believe it whenr you see it...hopefully he cleans his act up though. Drugs can tear a family apart, trust me. I've seen it first hand. It's brutal.
Sex 3 feet away? totally gross and trashy. Ew. I can't even do it with my mom in the same house, 50 feet away, let alone 3, haha.
Oh man what a pain! At least it sounds like the marriage won't really happen. (Well...it doesn't!) I'm sorry he did that. The less-than-motivated kids in our family have really put a massive damper on our engagement as well and I know it's tough. Just remember that in all honesty, this is YOUR time, not anyone else's. Try to remember that you're the one that matters when it comes to your engagement!
I'm so sorry that happened! It definitely sounds like they are trying to "take away" from you and your fiance. I also agree with the other bees in that it's NOT about them. Keep your head up, DON'T retaliate, and focus on you and your boyfriend's relationship, your live for eachother, and your future together. Good luck!!
Usually in these situations, I'd think you were being a little selfish, but this one's a little different.
Whether or not you should be upset, focus on it for 5 minutes, freak out to us and move on. It sounds like your engagement will get more family support anyways and there's will totally be overshadowed.
Sometimes future sibling in laws can be so obnoxious :)
@snake: So sorry! I would be upset too!
And yeah, I'm sure you're jealous - because that sounds like a situation that you'd just die to be in!!! LOL
Well, to be completely honest... the guy sounds like he is trying to get back at you (I know, sounds weird), and/or steal your thunder since he knew your engagement is right around the corner. I say, plan your wedding for whenever you want - I think his 'FI' will soon realize that her man lives in... as you so awesomely put it, 'loser land' and will drop him like a hot rock (when she figures out she will be going places while FI lays at home doing drugs and watching Maury Povich). I don't think that their 'engagement' will last long at all, so you should probably just go about your business and put that out of your mind. :) Congrats on the pending engagement!!!! :)
Bella
With any luck, his girlfriend will wise up and not go through with the wedding. Come vent here all you need to... but don't let the brother know he got under your skin. It will only make things worse!
She'll probably dump him when he doesn't ever get her a ring cause he spends all his money on drugs....
Looks like its been bumped!
Honestly guys I'm not jealous. My relationship with my SO is sound and secure, we have an engagement in the midst (any week now), which is certain-- not imagined on my part. My issue with this was mostly with my mother.
I'm not trying to convince anyone on my feelings about this because honestly i'm the only one who knows his brother and this situation. This kid hasn't taken anything seriously in years and he may or may not be taking this seriously now, however the timing is just too questionable.I'd be jealous if i wanted this for myself and had no idea if it was happening but its honestly more certain than knowing tomorrow is Tuesday. I don't want to sound like a brat but this kid doesnt take anything seriously-- takes things for granted, steals money, sells drugs, hasnt even tried to find a job since january--- and his engagement , to me, is just another one of these things. As terrible as it sounds I don't want this to make our engagement to look any less serious. His parents are not taking him seriously (i mean he's done this before, been "engaged" to another girl he dated a few months and it lasted about 4 more..).
Anyhow I'll stop now. Like I said, think what you will--- but if you were in this situation you too would have been furious. Time has now passed and the initial annoyance has passed and I am looking forward and focusing on us. But to say I was upset because I was jealous just simply isnt true.
And I do appriciate all of your input ladies, I really do. Sorry if I sounded snarky or anything to that affect, but you should understand it just felt like my parade was getting "rained on".
But again, thank you all! This is a situation for the past now :)
geez what a mess! i'm sorry this happened :( i'm willing to bet, like the other ladies here, that this chica will get a sharp reality stick in the eye once she realizes that her fiancee has no motivation in life. the haze and fog will disappear. it does suck though that they kinda stole your thunder :(
Forget about it. I agree with who said it'll probably never happen. Who sells meds for $? Hello? If they are waiting a 1.5 years, it won't happen. But, in the interim, don't worry about his side. You have his frineds, your friends, and your side who are happy for the both of you. There is always going to be some kind of drama around the wedding day. Go get your gown, be happy, pick out your date, venue, and menu. Focus on your day. You are not being whiney. It was a surprise. They stole your thunder you feel. But not all of it. Just 25% of it. You still own 75% of the wonder, joy, fun and remember this is about YOU. So go on, get happy.
OH I totally feel for you!! My fiance's brother found out that he was proposing to me while we were away on a cruise last year, so he proposed to his girlfriend at home, the same day.. so when we called home to tell the family, they were all freaking out and having a party for them... I was LIVID!!!! Try not to let it get to you though, just from personal experience! Just plan your wedding as you would have if they were not engaged, and try not to talk about your plans too much (so they don't copy... and then plan their wedding weeks before yours!!!) Having been going through the struggles with this for the past year, just realy try to focus on the wonderful things between you and your boyfriend and then enjoy being engaged. If you get too wrapped up in the anger it starts to cloud your own planning, and you will find yourself asking "what are they doing?" and starting allowing it to impact your own planning, then one day you look and think "crap, that's not the wedding I wanted!"... so learn from my mistakes and try to focus on the good stuff!!! Dont even take it into consideration (except aboiut the date of course!!- Dont pick the same day!!) good luck, and take a deep breath! Don't let this shadow your own pending engagement!!!
he totally stole your thunder, that sucks so much.
I sort of know the feeling, my FI and I just bought a townhouse together, we didn't tell anyone excpet his brother that we were doing it. Then one night after everything was finalized we went to his parents to tell them, when we walked in the door they were all excited because his brother - yes the same brother - had just bought a big house.
:(
It sound like there is a lot to the story that we don't know...and I know that when I label people in the "Dislike" category that anything that they do gets under my skin.
That being said, there is no controlling anyone but yourself, and it sounds like that is what you have decided to do. If you know that he isn't going to be serious and that they will break up soon, let them. It will only make your relationship look better and more stable.
On the other hand, what if this is the one thing that it take to straighten this boy out. Wouldn't it be nice if he were to suddenly mature into a thoughtful, considerate human being? This might be the situation to help him.
Probably won't happen, but I like to look on the bright side...and have long posts for some weird reason. :)
you poor girl! i'm so sorry to hear that your SO has such an immature brother. you aren't a brat at all...i would react the exact same way! don't let them ruin this special time in your lives, chances are they'll break up. Maybe his fiancee will get some sense knocked into her=)
Think of it this way. Maybe his brother sees everything you two are doing and is jealous. He probably feels like a loser and maybe he's getting some grief about it from other people (either friends or family.) From what you told us, maybe he did it to prove that he's not a loser. He's probably trying to make himself feel better about the situation he is in. I don't know what is going through his head.
Only time will tell whether or not he jumped into something that he is not ready for (or maybe it will straighten him out.)
Go ahead with your planning. Try not to let it bother you.
You and your FI both know that you didn't jump into something you weren't ready for. You look like you've done a lot of planning of your wedding. This guy will be planning for 6 months, which is not a lot of time. (Another reason it makes me think he is jumping into something he's not ready for.) Think of all the positives, first. I know I had to when the week before my wedding things were failing apart.
Good luck! and try not to dwell on it. Your wedding will be so special and it will be the happiest day of your life. Think of your wedding and not theirs. Your relationship is what is important.
OMG I soooo get it. My bf started planning to propose this past spring (which was pretty obvious) and my brother went and proposed to his gf (of about 6 mo) in June-- shocking everyone!!
Granted-- he did not do it on purpose and did not know that my FI was planning to propose, but it totally rained on our parade that he did it first! Now its all "oh CorgiTales is engaged TOO now?" and we had to change our preferred date.
I'm pretty much over it now because I know he didn't do it on purpose and because regardless we will end up married... but I can see how you would be so upset because he DID do it on purpose!! At least his parents knew he was planning it first? :)
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So as you may/may not know, my BF and I are getting ready to get engaged, as in we've picked out the ring 2 weeks ago and he is/has buying/bought it on his own time and is proposing to me sometime between now and like.. mid January, lets say. Well his parents have known for several weeks (i mean he wanted to talk to him about it... get advice.etc..) and THEY told his younger brothers (aged 21 and 15) last weekend.. roughly 4/5 days ago.
So we get a call yesterday morning from his mother and she has news. GUESS WHAT! His 21 year old brother proposed to his girl friend the night before! I am LIVID. Why, you ask?
1. We had to kick him out of our apartment in August (he lived with us) because he not only hadnt had a job in 9 months (on his own accord & wasnt trying to change that) but wasnt cleaning up after himself and ORDERED NARCOTICS to our apartment.
2. He has decided recently to sell his perscription drugs for $$ instead of getting a job.
3. He lives at home with mom n dad and has no motivation.
4. His gf of 7 months is a total enabler who (although she doesnt drink or do drugs on her own) puts up with his bs. She's getting ready to graduate college and acually has a future ahead of her while he is stuck in loser land. Sorry to say it, i love the kid but its true.
5. He knew perfectly well that we are about to get engaged and did so WITHOUT a ring (ok try not to jump on me for this, i know people do this legit all the time but its just TOO coinsidental).
6. My mother was at thanksgiving and accidently found out about our pre-engagement through his mother and is just starting to warm up to it all --- now shes like "guess the boys are getting auctioned off!"
and last but not least:
7. That little jerk. I can't even believe him. He had the indecensy to tell us not to get married in a year 1/2 because thats when they were planning on doing it. Give me an ******* break.
I hate to sound as if i am more "justified" in our engagement (well you know... the pending engagement) but i do. Perhaps its a "if you knew everything that i knew youd be on my side" sort of thing but even his parents are rolling their eyes so hard.His gf and him have rained on our parades 3 times in their relationship (1 ex: we invited them to NY with us and they had SEX in our hotel bathroom while we were sleeping 3 feet away, flooding the bathroom). They just dont think about other people and UGH if i cant vent here where can i?
Anyhow if you read all that you deserve another piece of leftover pie. I really appriciate it. =[