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    365    November 3, 2015   Ontario

    My FH and I are fairly young. I'm 18 (19 by the wedding) and he's 21 (22 by the wedding). We've been together for about 2.5 years now, and we've known each other since we were kids. Our engagment is about 15 months which puts us at 3.5 years two days before the wedding.

     

    My family is really disapproving of us getting married. I expected some to be but not all. Yes, we may be young but we're not stupid. Like a few other bess we will be going to therapy beforehand to have the tools needed to put out fights before the grow, and help each other through tough times. We are currently in a long distance relationship but moving in together in two months. We've lived together before, and this is what we want.

     

    Like I said, we're prepared. We know exactly what we're doing (and we have our reasons why). How can I help make my family see that even though we may be young, and our wedding is certainly not traditional, we understand what we're doing? I'm a total wreck some days because I just can't make them understand. 

     
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    Mrs. Spring    May 10, 2009   California

    Ooooh, that's tough.  It must be really hard to not have your parents support for your relationship  and future marriage.  Is there a reason the think you're not ready for marriage besides being "too young?"   For example, if you're still financially dependent on them, they might think you're not financially ready for a marriage?  Or if you and your Fi have had problems in the past, they aren't able to understand that you have resolved those issues?

    If you have tried to rationally explain to your parents why you think you are ready for marriage, what you have been/will do to prepare, and why you want to get married right now instead of when they are ready for it, I don't think anything else but time will help.  Over time, as you prove yourself to be financially, emotionally, physically, etc... prepared for marriage, I think they will become more comfortable with the idea.  Take steps (like it seems you are already doing) to prepare for the demands of a marriage, and be open with them, but it's not a situation that is going to change overnight.   It's going to take them a while to accept your decisions, but by showing them that you are mature enough to handle marriage, they will hopefully (eventually) accept it.  Good luck!

     
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    MrsDibs    April 16, 2010   Columbus, OH

    The problem I think for a lot of people is that you change a lot between the ages of 18 and 21...that may not mean anything for you but maybe it helps if you understand why people are so disapproving. You may be fully prepared and that's great, but you need to sit down with those people who disapprove and ask them why? I mean people used to get married right out of high school all the time back in the day, and those marriages lasted (more often than not) forever! I think you are taking very responsible steps toward marriage, explaining these might ease some of the relatives concerns. From my personal experience, I thought I was ready to marry my BF after high school but that wasn't the case and I'm much different now than I was then, and it's only been 3 years! But that is me, by the sounds of it, you seem very prepared and responsible. My advice is stick to your guns, try to talk to your family and make them understand. Good luck!

     
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    Johnsbride09    7/3/2009   Northern Virginia

    Honestly, my opinion is that if your families don't approve at that age, you probably are too young.  I was 20 when I got engaged, and FI was 21, and our families were all for it.  (We'll both be 23 when we marry).  The truth is, your families know you.  Really know you.  And they don't have the "I adore you" wool pulled over their eyes.  I would listen to them, seriously, and take their opinions into account before I moved forward.

     
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    eloping    May 23, 2010  

    personally, if it was my 18yr old niece wanting to get married (shes now 16) i would be shaking her to get her to delay the marriage - heck, i would offer her a around the world trip and expense money to go travel and see the world to get her out of the country & away from the guy (actually i already have offered her this for her gap year after high school and before university as i think travel for young people is a must)

    my thoughts are that a 18yr person is just starting their life out as an adult and there is so much to experience (life, travel, education) that i would hate for someone i love to miss out on these opporutunities not to mention them being burden with the realities of financing a home/family/education at such a young age when i obviously wish for better/more for them & their future

    im not saying you are not in love or an adult making correct decisions for yourself - im just trying to give some ideas to where your family members are coming from

     
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    HoneyBunny       Florida

    You won't ever be able to make everyone happy, just remember that. Everyone will have their own opinions about it. I am in the same boat as you kind of. I'm 20 and my fiance is 24, and even though our family's our happy for us, I am sure (more than sure as I am from a small town lol) that some people whisper about our age, whether it be about being too young or the age gap or the numerous other things people can find to talk about. People talk it's just their nature.

    As far as your family goes, if you know in your heart it is what you want then hopefully they will learn to understand that. Just make sure that when you do talk to them about it, be as "grown up" as possible about it because anything less will just be more ammo for them.

     
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    ddubzz    June 5, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Hmm this is a toughie.  I can see both sides of the story here.  I remember when I was 18 (11 years ago!!) and in love with my high school sweetheart.  We talked about marriage and were together for 4+ years.  We ultimately went to the same college, and totally changed and morphed into completely different people!  Needless to say, we broke up and never got married.  I just think from personal experience that the years between 18-22 are the years where you really come into yourself and learn most about yourself. 

    Are you and your fiance planning on going to college?  I didn't know any married people in college, and the reason is because no one was ready to be "tied down" to such a lifelong committment.  Is it common for people in your town/city/area to get married at such young ages?  It might be a demographical thing, but most of my friends and I didn't even feel ready for marriage until we hit our mid-late 20s!  

    Lastly, what's your rush anyway?  You have your whole life ahead of you... and lots to do and experience before being in such a committed union!   Why not have a longer engagement and still be with your fiance.  Just wait a few years... as long as you two are still together, that's all that matters right?  And, it will make your families happy, which matters a lot too IMO.  :)  

     
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    MrsT2Bee    June 12, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    I understand how you're feeling... and nothing personal (to ddubzz) but i HATE the words "what's the rush?" - I cringe every time I hear it! I am 21, will be 22 at the wedding, and I am getting some of the same feedback that you are. Honestly I think you can know what you want at that age, everyone is different, and yes we grow, we change, but why can't we do that with the person we love? My argument to those people is, if you know what you want, and you are responsible enough to understand the commitment you are making then why wait?? And I've had to tell my Dad (who thinks we should wait until FH is out of university) that, you know what? if you think i'm making a mistake, it's MY mistake to make! I'm not going to postpone my wedding because someone thinks I'm too young. It's my life, my decisions, and yes, sometimes my mistakes. That's what life is all about! I honestly feel like I'm making one of the best decisions of my life by marrying my FH. He treats me great, he's motivated, has a great family, will have an amazing job when he's done school, and will be an amazing father to our children someday!

    Moral of the story is, just try your best to ignore them. And try my line if they're getting on your case "It's my life, and it's my mistake to make."

    Good luck hun, hugs comin' your way!

     
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    mandalynn17    June 19, 2010   Medford, OR

    Hon, I feel where you are coming from. I didn't meet any issues with my immediate family, but I have had others, who maybe don't know me and my fiance as well ask why we are getting married so young (I'll be 22, he'll be 25).  I think though, it can largely be a regional or religious thing. At my church, it is incredibly common to get married in your early 20's, and it's pretty common in my small town for people to be married/engaged and pregnant, or have children before the 5 year high school reunion! 

    I think ultimately though, I wouldn't worry about other people's concerns, except for maybe your parents.  If your parents don't think you are ready for marriage, whether it be for financial, emotional, etc. reasons I think you need to evaluate these concerns.  Your parents love you and they wouldn't be worried without merit to their concerns.  

    Also, I hate the opinion that if you are married you can't continue to grow and learn and travel in your 20's.  Your life isn't over when you become married. I want to have these experiences with my husband, not alone. Where's the fun in that!?

    Anyways, it appears I've gotten off on a tanget. . .  :)

    @ddubbz - I know plenty of people going to my university that are married or engaged.  

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    Miss Pizzelle    September 5, 2010   New York, NY

    Well, I personally think anything under 21 is too young... but all people are different.  If you two love eachother and want to be together, what's the hurry? I almost got married when I was 20, we called it off and we have both changed so much! (we are no longer together).  I'm not saying that that will happen, but a lot changes from 18 to 21. Seriously. Take your time! You have your entire life a head of you!

     
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    Your parents have what's best for you as their goal!  I know when I was 18 I thought I knew everything, and honestly, at 25, I'm a *completely* different person than I was then.  I'm sure your parents, having experienced the same changes, just want you to wait to make sure that as you grow a little older (and believe me, there *is* a big difference between 25 and 21), you both still feel the same way.

     

    If you love each other and plan to be together forever, what's the harm in waiting a few more years to get married so you can have the support of your families? 

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    First, I would like to say to all the well-intentioned bees on here -- its not our place to judge. This woman is asking for moral support and advice on getting through a hard time. She isn't asking for our opinions on whether she should be getting married. Unless someone is in an unhealthy or abusive relationship, I don't think it is our role to say one way or the other if someone should get married, especially when she didn't ask! We are very careful to respect all different kinds of brides here - I think young brides (as long as they are of age) also deserve that same careful respect.

    Okay, off my soapbox.

    I will be getting married at 22, but I'm 21 right now. I'm lucky to have the loving support of my family, but my friends sometimes don't understand. I know how stressful and discouraging it can be to try to defend your relationship. So my first peice of advice would be, STOP. Stop wasting your energy trying to prove something to your families. Unfortunately, they aren't likely to understand just through the things you say. What's more, this negativity and drama that I know is very upsetting certainly isn't a good use of your engagement. You should be spending your engagement, as you said, building a strong foundation for a great, long-lasting marriage. This kind of family drama can drive a couple apart. So, for the sake of your relationship, stay focused on your happiness and your unity. By doing that, you will prove your maturity and the strength of your relationship to your parents without having to argue about it.

    Basically, you may not be able to make your family see that you are ready for marraige, but by doing the right thing - focusing on your impending marriage rather than the drama - they may end up seeing it after all. But I wouldn't make that your goal. As much as the support of family is important, what's more important is the reason you are doing all of this. Don't lose what you and your fiance have in trying to please others. Part of being an independent adult is making your own choices for your own reasons and taking responsibility for them rather than just blindly doing what is expected of you by your parents. Not to say they aren't wise, but you should take ownership of this choice, and realize that its yours, not theirs, and therefore all that truly matters is what YOU think about it.

    To answer a few bees who said "What's the rush?" I will tell you what I told a friend just hours ago about my own engagement - to me, marrying my FI is an "of course". Of course I will spend the rest of my life with him. Of course I want no one else. Of course we'll build a marriage and a family together. What else? I'm sure many of you can relate to this, though I understand we all have different relationships and come at them in different ways. For me, I know our love is true and lasting, bottom line, so I would marry him tomorrow, or I would marry him in 10 years - it honestly doesn't make much of a difference to me. We are already fully committed. Having said that, we chose our wedding date based on what works best for us. We decided that, knowing we'll of course be married, we'd rather be married before we live together, before we move to a new city. Since its an "of course", the question is less, "What's the rush?" and more, "Why wait?" 

    365, I just want to say that I understand, and you have my support. Be prepared, however, for a tough road ahead. The answer to the question, "Why wait?" is very different for you than for me, I'm afraid. I can't imagine that not having the support of your parents will bode well for you in many ways, particularly financially. Don't feel like postponing the date would be admitting guilt of some kind, or letting them win. If its the right choice for you and your future husband, then make it.

    Good luck and congrats!

     
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    MrsT2Bee    June 12, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    @daniellemybelle - THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

    Amen sista!

     
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    mandalynn17    June 19, 2010   Medford, OR

    Thanks Daniellemybelle, I was feeling the same way but wasn't sure how to phrase it. THANKS for voicing it so elloquently!

     
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    KateMW    8.30.03   Birmingham

    It's funny that the older woman who might agree with her family are getting told by the younger BTB that they aren't being supportive. Honestly, I agree with your family. 19 is way too young to get married and you will change over the next few years and no telling where you'll be at in life. My husband didn't think he would ever get a divorce when he married his high school sweetheart after 6 years at 21, but 6 years later after they had grown up, they didn't have anything in common anymore. BUT, if you are dead set on doing it, you're just going to have to ignore all the naysayers and make your own life, etc. You're about to become a family with your FI and it's the two of you against the world. So, think of this as a test of how y'all work together and how you can support each other for the many years to come. Also, one thing that might help is not fighting against your parents. Sit down and talk to them and LISTEN to their concerns. Tell them you understand and then explain to them how you're preparing to deal with their issues. Good Luck.

     
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    I agree with KateMW.  I see a lot of young bees thinking older bees are not being supportive.  No one here is jumping down anyone's throat.  We "older" bees have been down that road and then some.  We're just trying to provide support.  We don't want people to end up in divorce here.  Yeah, what's the rush?  Marriage is long...  Like Chris Rock says, life isn't short. It's long when you're with the wrong person.  If we think that someone could be making a mistake, why wouldn't we speak up???

    Of course you feel like you'll be with him for ever.  Who doesn't?    But personally, I would be taking advice from people who have the wisdom of their years, who can look back and say how much they grew from that age, how different they are.  Do you notice the only people who who don't provide you with at least some hesitation are those who are your age, who haven't gotten past these young years? 

    I would really consider your family's advice.  I know young people sometimes see their parents as a thorn in their side.  (I know because I've been your age before.) But, in reality, I think your parents want what's best for you.  (I know this because I'm  parent.)

     
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    tessabella76    September 12, 2009   Ohio

    I don't think you can put an age on maturity. I've seen marriages both fail and succeed when the bride & groom were married young. I've seen a lot fail but my brother and his wife were 17 (her) and 18 (him) when they got married. 24 years and 4 years later, they are still married. But it hasn't been easy for them, that's for sure. I'm 32 and I can't imagine being ready to be married so a young age as you, but you couldn't have told me that then!

    I'm not going to say yes you are too young or no go for it. But I do think you and your fiance should sit down with your parents and address their concerns. They truly do want the best for you. And I'm glad you and your fiance are going to therapy beforehand. The only way you are going to prove you are ready to marriage is to show them you have the maturity and emotional tools necessary for marriage.

     
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    RoddyBride09    September 5, 2009   Bethlehem, PA

    Hello 365 -- I am another one of the "older" bees and I have to agree completely with KateMW and Tanya123. I was your age once and madly in love with my college boyfriend that lasted for almost 5 years (mostly long distance) but just like some of the other bees, the relationship ended. Not because we had problems but because during those years we grew up. Those were the crucial years when we were trying to figure out who we were and what we wanted in life and whether we were ready to take the relationship to the next level. It just didn't happen for us BUT that doesn't mean it won't work for you. I think the "older" bees and myself just want to make sure you don't write-off the concerns of those who have been your age and have the wisdom and knowledge that most others have never experienced.

    We can see that no matter what anyone says, you will be marrying your FI. Just be sure that you speak with your family and actually listen to their concerns and express what you two are doing to handle such concerns.  So please do not shut them out or ignore them. You can disagree with what they are saying but closing them out is no good. We've all said our parents never understand... But they do. They really do.

    What's funny is that my Dad always wanted me to get married at 30 and growing up I was like "no way, that is too old" but now I get it. As I will be nearing 28 yrs old, I am so glad my life turned out the way it did because I have truly found the love of my life. I have experienced so much in the last 10 years that I can't believe how much I have changed.

    365, I wish you all the best and that no matter what you do that things will work out. Good luck!

     
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    mlkeysock    September 1, 2007   near Philadelphia, PA

    I'm another "older" bee who is siding with your parents. KateMW and Tanya said it best in that we're not trying to discourage you from anything...we're just trying to offer helpful insight for you to understand where your family is coming from too.

    Like Roddy, I too had a boyfriend in college for 3 years. I thought at the time that he was the one for me...and we even talked about beign engaged a year after I graduated (he was a year older than me). As time went by and I grew into the woman I am today, I realized that there were a lot of things about him that I was unhappy with. Now that I'm married to my husband, I thank my lucky stars that I didn't marry my ex. Had I married him, I wouldn't have the most wonderful husband in the world right now. I often think about what it would have been like if I married my ex, and I know now that I would be very unhappy.

    I'm also not saying that relationships at your age can't work period. We have friends who have been together since they were 15. They each went to different schools and have had rocky parts in their relationships, but they're 26 and 27 now, married for 2 years and together for over 10. They are one of the happiest couples I know. They also took their time, grew together and were married when it fit best for them.

    I know that you're frustrated with your family, and you're probably even more frustrated now that some bees are offering advice that might not be what you wanted to hear, but we're all just concerned for you. We are also not in your situation and only know a small snippit of what you're going through, so it's tough to give advice on that. I wish you lots of luck, and know everything will work out for the best for you!

     
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    chelseamorning    November 1, 2008   Washington, DC/Atlanta

    Your family is probably giving you a hard time about this because they are hoping that they can change your mind. You still have a year to go before the wedding, and that is a lot of time. All you can do is stick to your guns and go with what your heart tells you is right. Think of this as one of the challenges of adult life: people giving you loud opinions that you don't want, and you have to be strong enough to stand up to them without hurting them or giving in, bend but not break.

    Convince them by your example. Show them how mature and reasonable you are being in the face of their unbidden commentary. If you break down and show that they are getting to you though, they may see that as success that they have gotten you to reconsider your decision and redouble their efforts. As the wedding draws closer their comments may intensify as they ready for a last hurrah, or they may die off as they lose hope. Only after the wedding I think will you encounter a different situation, where they will be forced to confront you as a married couple. So don't lose hope. Your family can wish for you not to get married, but once you are married I think it highly unlikely that they would wish for your marriage to fail.

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    soontobewalsh    09/18/10   Boston

    I guess I am a "middle" bee because I'll be 2 months shy of 29 when I get married. I have to say that I can see both sides of this.

    I know your not asking for advice but I would take what everyone has posted on here into serious consideration. I was with someone for 7 years and we had originally started dating when I was a senior in high school. In the "beginning of the end" of our relationship I had realized that I no longer loved this person and that we had changed drastically from the people we were when we first met. We were headed in separate directions and wanted different things. There is something to be said from the "older bees" stories and advice. We've been there, done that and we know first hand that people change. You will not be the same person you are now when you are 25, 30, 40, and even 60!

    On the other side of this I then met someone who is three years younger than me some time after I had broken up with above mentioned boyfriend. When I met him he was 22. However, any reservations i had about his age disappeared after spending some time with him. I saw that we was actually very mature and I knew after only a short amount of time that he was the person I was meant to be with. Now almost 3 years later, we are engaged and extremely happy. I've asked him before if he had any doubts about settling down so young but he assures me he doesn't and I believe him whole heartedly.

    I do believe though that my previous experience allowed me to learn what I want in a partner and what I am willilng to tolerate...and more importantly - what I am not. I'm not telling you not to get married, I'm just suggesting that you really think about it. Whatever you choose though I do wish you the best of luck.

     
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    star    October 11, 2009   New York, NY!

    365 --

    I think the Hive is expressing exactly the feelings that people in the real world will have about your age. Some will support you because it's your choice and your decision, and some will tell you in a well-intentioned way that you should wait. I think I fall somewhere inbetween in that I understand exactly how hard it is to not have the support of your family (which is, precisely, extremely difficult), while at the same time understanding the reasoning of the finish-your-education-first camp. 

    Would I want to finish college before I got married? Yes, I would. Do I think that everyone should necessarily behave the same way? No, what worked for me won't be the same as what works for someone else.

    Families will not always approve. That may have nothing to do with age. People write all the time about how their families don't approve of their fiance and they are often in their late 20's or beyond! Your parents can't make your life decisions for you, nor should you let them.

    That said, it is terribly upsetting to be so excited about a wedding that your parents couldn't care less about. I know. I hope to write a post about it soon. But the good news is: there IS hope! You're still a year out. My parents have largely come around, but if their approval really matters to you, you may need to give them some time. It's no accident that we will have been engaged for two years when we get married.

    Big hugs to you all around. And please stay tuned to my age-related posts and give me some feedback about your own experience. I know it's hard, but I found a lot of relief in looking to my friends for support when my parents were less-than-enthused. My (now) bridesmaids were always ready to be my cheerleaders.

    Good luck!

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    nada122    January 2009   Florida

    All these bees -- young and old -- have posted great stories and advice, so I may not have much more to add, but this hits right at home for me. I was 16 and a freshman in college when I met my current husband who was 18 and a sophomore. We dated our entire college "career" and got married about 8 months after we graduated last May -- so just this past January. I turned 20 two weeks after the wedding and he was 22. The difference for me is that age is nothing but a number. There are people who are still in high school at age 16. I was in college. I knew we had to get our degree before we took that step. You mature in college. You mature as time goes by.

    We were together for 3.5 years before tying the knot and we did change. But I don't think all people change that drastically. Some do, yes, but mostly you are the person you are going to be. Some people are extremely mature, some are not. I know 30 year olds that act like they're 12. It depends on YOU and YOUR FIANCE. Yes, 19 is young... but it's in the eye of the beholder. It depends on how you two view life and how prepared you are to face these challenges together. People asked me "what's the rush" all the time. For us, we knew we wanted to be together forever and we knew we wanted to GROW together and live together. It's NOT easy all the time and yes, we have changed and will continue to change... but you are the only one who will know how ready you and your fiance are. Age is nothing but a number because it really matters the person and they're maturity level. Don't ignore your family, but don't just automatically change your plans because of their opinions. I know my family didn't mind the age, since they knew where I was at in life, but there were things about my husband they questioned, but they didn't know him like I did.. and he has since proved them wrong. 

    Prove to them with your actions. Be responsible, make your own money... etc. Sorry to rant, but I know how it feels to be told "you're making a mistake" or "don't do it!" lol everyone is different at different stages in their life. GOOD LUCK!

     
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    Superstitions    July 25, 2009   TX

    I know exactly how you feel, because I'm there right now. Unluckily for me though, my wedding is supposed to take place in 3 weeks. 

    All you can do is try to either find a compromise, give into what they have to say (and don't take this as me calling it a defeat, it's just the way it feels for me personally) or go ahead with your plans. Whatever you choose, stick with it, but show that you are ready in a mature fashion. It's not easy. It's impossible to talk to my father without it ending in an argument. Neither one of us is willing to back down and it's been a non-stop argument for days.

    Don't be discouraged. I'm trying my best to make my parents understand that I respect their point of view and show them what decisions that my fiance and I have made to take care of their concerns, but they won't hear it. My father is a difficult person and has never really respected me. If your relatives haven't fully respected you in the past, don't expect it now, but if they have, there is hope to fix things.

    Give them your plan of action. They may not want to hear it, or may simply discount it completely, but you let them know your standpoint. You can't make anyone see your point of view, but you can try. Maybe they'll come around, maybe they won't. Try to find a compromise if possible, but if not, be prepared for hurt feelings on both sides.

    Be prepared for them to not want to hear it or accept it, make your choice, and stick with it. 

    I wish you the best of luck in this. Try not to get discouraged along the way and when needed, remind yourself that this is you and your fiance's decision and nobody else's. If it's a mistake, it's yours to make. Be proud of that.

     
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    365    November 3, 2015   Ontario

    I want to thank every bee for the words they have shared with me. I understand why some disapprove, and why some are telling me to stick to my guns. From this side of my screen it appears as though the main concern is that we will change through college, and through the next fews years. I should have mentioned, he will be done his college in a month, and I went for a semester, and am heading back in the fall for law.

    I understand everyone's concerns, and I know everyone just wants the best for me. It's painful to watch someone go through something when you know you can't help, I understand that. My parents have split up, my dad remarried, and left her as well for his secretary. My mom is currently engaged a second time to her high school sweetheart.

    I must admit, it was much easier to read both sides written down than it was to hear it from my family. This is what we want, and he HAS changed me, but it's been for the better. We do make our own money, and we do pay our own bills. Or as much as our parents permit us to anyways. It's difficult trying to show my side to others, but I'm sure my family is having the same fustrations to show their sides to me.

    To those who don't support us, thank you for having the guts to look out for us. And to those who do, thank you for sharing your stories.

    I guess I'm not scared of actual marriage, nor the being with him forever, it's the losing my family part that scares me. I know in the end it will just be him and I anyways, but the middle, and the journey is what matters to us. Anyhow, now I'm just rambling, but I'm going to keep up to date on this because just reading everything (both good and bad) is helping me. Thanks again bees!

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    mizunoheaven    June 2009   Oregon/Kuwait/wedding in Australia

    I am not going to tell you what you are doing is wrong or right.

    Honestly, I don't know you and have no idea if I think you are ready or not. However, I would raise concern that you mention there is a reason for doing this but you don't list that reason...but rather just say "we have our reasons"....okay then, maybe you should share them with your family and maybe they will come to understand.

    My sister got married when she was 18, 6 months after her high school graduation. She's 10 years older than I am....she got a divorce after 18 years of marriage and was ready for one at 6 years. My parents begged her not to marry. My parents would say that she was hell bend on it. it's been a few years since her divorce, and 21 years since the marriage. Her memory of this says that at 18 she didn't feel like she could say no. However, I remember her as happy and in love with the boyfriend. So, I am not sure if this was her way of trying erase some of her past choices but she believes that a woman and man don't really know themselves until about 25. 

    I am 31 and just got married. I might argue that if you truly understand the meaning of love (my husband and I read 1 Corinithians 13 everday for 5 months before our wedding, we currently maintain this tradition) then you might be ready. Do you feel like marriage is suppose to last forever? if your partner cheats how will you respond?all good questions that I felt were important to know the answers to before I married.

     

    Good luck.

     
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    Karma007    10/10/2009   Bay Area

    Just know that your parents will love you no matter what, whether they approve or not. They dissaprove, in fact, b/c they DO love you. I was married at 19 against the wishes of my family, and while they dissaproved, they were there when I needed them, showing up on the porch with baby in tow. Never have they said "I told you so", or turned their backs. Parents love you, no matter what.

    Recently I had to make a very heart wrenching decision. When I posed the matter to my therapst and said "I don't know what do do!?" Her response was "what's the worst that can happen?" The answer was, the worst thing that could happen is, I would be wrong. The world would not end, no one would die, I would simply be wrong, and deal wtih it. To this day it's the best advice I have ever received.

     
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    mambinki    October 17, 2009   Seattle, WA

    365- another older bee here and I tend towards the side of "wait until later" because that jives more with my personal experiences.  When I was 19 my main wardrobe attire was a painting smock and thought I'd marry a Beastie Boy, so I was no where near mature enough to marry, nor was it even in my radar.  I did know a couple of people who married that young, some divorced now and some still together.  No matter what age we marry, it is tough work.  Yes, I am TOTALLY different now than back when I was 19, but I know that other life experiences will change me in the future too, for example having children, my ever changing career, being a wife and so on.  We all grow and mature during different stages but still maintain some of that core who-we-are-ness through it all.

    That being said, this isn't about the strength of your relationship, which sounds very strong, or your maturity, which sounds quite present.  This is about your family.  This is about you wanting them to love and support you in this big step in your life.  There needs to be some kind of exchange about this, there needs to be some kind of resolution.  I agree with the other bees about talking with them about WHY they dissaprove.  Really listen to them when they tell you.  LIstening and honoring their opinion doesn't mean you agree and will do what they say you should do.  But hear them out.  Then ask them to hear you out.  See how this goes.  Let them know why you want to marry this soon rather than wait. 

    You mentioned that you plan to go to pre-marital therapy with your FI, I suggest you talk with the counselor about your family's response to your wedding plans.  This is something to work on within the context of therapy and within your relationship. If your family continues to dissaprove, you better believe it will affect your relationship, not to mention just your happiness, so this is great material for therapy. See how this helps.

    Don't be too rigid in this process, be willing to balance the points of view and make a decision that really comes from your heart, about your future with the partner you love AND also about your relationship with your family.  Surely somewhere there is a place within those 2 parts of your life where you can find some peace.

     Good luck.

     
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    redbullfanatic    July 7, 2010   Long Beach, CA

    This may come off harsh BUT I'll say it anyway....I think if you are old enough to make a decision to get married then you should be old enough to not worry about what your parents think because you are now making a new life with your future husband and can't be a little girl who worries about what her parents think, you have to be a grown woman who makes decisions for herself.  Again, that may come off harsh but I only know how to say things bluntly. 

     
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    honey i'll keep it short and sweet... i am nineteen and have been married for two months. I honestly can not say how i will feel in five, ten, or twenty years. but what i know now is that i am married to a man that loves me more than i will ever know. I also know that getting married young will give us a chance to grow together. To go through all of lives hard times together. I have the same mind set as some of the bees... if your old enough to make the decision to want to spend your life with some one do it! only you know what is right for you. Loves:)

     
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    daniellemybelle    June 19, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    365, you seem a like a sweet person. Of course you don't want to lose your family. I want you to know you have love and support here! (((365)))

    Like Ms. Star said, you have a year! Spend that time, like I said, building a strong, mature relationship and showing that to your parents. In the end, I believe they will always love you and they will come around.

    A couple things to the rest of the hive -  My point was, 365 wasn't asking whether she should get married, she was asking how to deal with her parents. I was just reminding all of us to keep that in mind.

    Secondly, certainly more support comes from young brides, but I don't think that's such a bad thing. Encore brides support, understand, and rally around each other here all the time. Similar people will understand and support each other. There are all different kinds of brides. I think we should respect them. It simply isn't our role to judge and it takes away from the supportive atmosphere that I love about Weddingbee.

     
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    mandalynn17    June 19, 2010   Medford, OR

    @redbullfanatic:

    I think it's important to realize that she didn't say she was worried about what her parents thought, she was worried about ruining her relationship with her parents by going against their wishes. She is not saying she is a child worried about disappointment, simply that she was worried about their unsupportive attitude. 

     

     
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    December    December 12, 2008   Minneapolis,MN/Jackson,MS

    I'm a younger bee who got married at almost 22 to my 26 year old husband who I'd been dating for 3 years and change.

    I won't give advice necessarily but just chime in with my experience. We started dating right into college... although we waited until fall break freshman year to make it official. :) We were SO crazy in love, and thought we wanted to get married June 2007. Things didn't work out money wise (my husband got offered a deal to go to college free if he wasn't married, and we decided it would be best to minimize our debt), so we postponed until December 2008. In that time, my dog died suddenly, my mom had a pretty substantial back injury and when I was home I did most of the cooking and cleaning, my dad was un(der)employed for 2 years, my church that I'd been attending since I was born basically imploded, my brother escalated his anger problems from basic temper tantrums into cussing, awful threats, and physical violence. Basically LOTS of crap. And it was good for us to wait, to wade through all the fallout together, and grow into more mature people because of it. It gave our parents time to get to know the SO better, the in-laws better, and to get more comfortable with the whole thing.

    So that's my experience. And now we're married and going through ANOTHER hugely rocky time in our lives (unplanned pregnancy, trying to get into gradschool, awful jobs, insurance mess) and what came before really strengthened us to handle that. I have times where I just want to escape and think about all of the things that I could have done without the baby, without him.. and yeah, it could have been great. But I picked him, and by not being more careful about BC I picked the baby. I've got to live the best life I can by making the most of the choices I've already made.

    I suppose that's the only advice I'd give, for talking to your parents, is to say that besides your grown-up life skills, you two have a commitment to each other. You're not going to run home when things get tough (at least not away from your husband.. we might be moving in with his parents later this year, heh!). I think that display of commitment will mean more to them than any display of financial savvy or "real world" life skills. Good luck!

     
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    Bamboo    June 2010   Midwest

    I know its hard because we all want the approval of those closest to us, but if the two of you are sure about marriage then it is no one elses business!

    I'm a bit offended by all the people jumping on the "you're too young" or "you''ll change so much in a few years" bandwagon. Maybe that was your timeline and maybe that is your life, but it is not fair to tell 365. We are all different people and go through life's milestones at different times. As someone that will also be a younger bride (a bit older than 365 but not much) I know that we are ready. There are so many other factors besides age that matter. AND we are always changing!

    I say that you should do what your heart and head are telling you 365! NOT anyone else!

     
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    MrsSl82be    October 24, 2009  

    365, I"m glad your listening to both sides and realizing that people aren't judging but giving you their point of view.  I also think that you should wait, basically for the same reason all the other "older" brides said. I dated someone from 16-20 and I was planning our wedding when I found out he was cheating on me.  We split up and even tho it was extremely painful then, I am now a very different person and realize that marrying him would have been a huge mistake. I'm not saying that you and your FI are not meant to be, but like most I know that you change so much between 18 adn 21.  i've known many people who dated in high school and after, and most of them (I'd say at least 85%) did not stay together for more than a few years. You both change, and sometimes one person changes and the relationship is no longer compatible. When me and my ex broke up my mom kept telling me "at least you didn't have any kids or realy permanency in your relationship" and she was right.  While I believe if you think it will work then you should go for it, I also believe that there is a large chance that one of you will change and want different things. Why take a chance of that happening AFTER your already married and have to go thru the paid and expense of divorce?  There really is no rush to get married, FI and will be together for 5 1/2 years before we get married, and have known each other since we were kids.  There was no rush to get married, we'll end up having a 2 year engagement. 

    And bamboo, I hear your comment. But all the younger BTB in this thread should realize something - we've ALL been there and we've ALL changed, how can you be so certain you won't since you HAVEN'T been there yet???  We are not saying anyone shouldn't get married, just to be cautious and not make extremely quick decisions in the process.  We're just trying to help, we're not trying to bash the younger brides.  Just trying to give experience beyond your years

     
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    Bamboo    June 2010   Midwest

    I'm saying I know I will change because we are always changing. When you talk to people who's relationships fall apart they often say "we grew apart". I'm saying that may happen if youre 20 or 40, so age really doesn't have a lot to do with it. IT has so much more to do with the people and the type of relationship that they share. Something that can't be judged by outsiders at a distance. And being an older bride doesn't mean you know more about making relationships work than younger ones. Older does not necessarily mean wiser, more ready, more settled, more committed, ect. Just like younger does not equal the opposites.

     
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    Bamboo    June 2010   Midwest

    And I don't think you have to prove your point 365 (that you're ready for marriage) to your family. Period. So the next time one of them make a comment I would just say " I appreciate your concern, but I'm confident in our relationship and upcoming wedding".

     
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    Jenniphyr    February 2, 2013   Alberta, Canada

    My fiance and I met in high school, too (grade eleven) and got engaged 2 years later. Because we're going to university and are not financially stable, we're holding off getting married until 2012, when I'll be done university and able to get a job and support us while he finishes his last year. Yes, it will be a 3.5 year engagement. Yes, marrying each other is an "of course". We're putting it off because of financials -- we would rather marry sooner, but it's not a good decision.

    That said, I don't know anything of your financial circumstances, 365, just that your family is not supporting you in this. And that is a hard, hard thing, to be without your family's support -- at any time! -- but especially when you are so young and just starting out. It could be just that they are opposed to the idea of marriage before a certain age. It could be that they are scared to lose you. It could be that they don't think that you are personally ready for this, because of extenuating circumstances like financials. And it hurts, that they're not there for you. But unfortunately I don't see them coming around until they see that this is going to work out for you. So be strong, and don't ever stop believing in yourself.

     
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    April.H       Kansas

      I won't tell you you're too young, you seem responsible and mature age does not mean you are mature. I got married two months before my 22nd birthday. My husband and I were only dating 2 months before we were engaged. An unplanned pregnancy moved things forward quickly and a few weeks after the engagement we miscarried. That was very difficult and we grew a lot during that time and happily grew together. We suffered another miscarriage three months after we were married and it nearly tore us apart. We got pregnant with our daughter two months after that and things were going great for awhile but post partum depression and losing my job put me in a bad place and last January we nearly divorced. There was a day where I tried to figure out where I would go and what I would do. When I got home he apologized and so did I. We moved forward. We had another miscarriage last fall and while I was very hurt I tried hard to not let my sadness ruin our marriage. Of course there has been drama with our families and general life stress, but we've made it three years and are happier than ever and I can honestly say I love him more than I did when we were first married.

      What's the point of all this? Marriage is hard, really hard. It's work, it's trying to do your best, it's saying you're sorry and meaning it, it's moving past your own selfishness, it's putting the other person first (I still stuggle with this sometimes) but it's wonderful too.

      I also know that my parents were married at 18 after knowing eachother for only about 8 months and they've been married 27 years. I also know it was hard for them and they've nearly divorced several times but they don't belive in it. I can see how my parents have changed and I've seen them grow apart and then make the effort to grow back together.

      Perhaps the reason your family and others are concerned is because with all the regular struggles you'll also be growing up and changing. It might make things different or more difficult. I do know that I changed a lot during college as well. But I married my husband right out of college. Everyone is different and I bet if you understand the extra struggles (as well as the regular ones) you'll face you will have great odds of making it.

      Your family will eventually come around. Remember my parents? My dad's parents did not like my mom, in fact most of his family didn't like her. It's taken a long time but my mom and grandma are good friends now and talk on the phone all the time. My dad's sister didn't talk to him for 14 years. They talk again now finally. It's forever but they hold grudges like no other. Eventually though, they will come around. Hopefully it won't be so long for you two.

      Good luck and I hope you have a long happy marriage!

     

     

     
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    smyley    May 2010  

    I'm sure I'm probably older than all of you,so I hope you'll give me a few minutes to express my feelings after reading all these responses.

    When my daughters were growing up,I did what many of us do for our children. We try and give them more than we had and hope we make their lives better than ours were. That isn't to say everyone comes from some kind of dysfunctional family,but many people do. No one really teaches you how to be a parent,so most of the time we take what other people say and pull from it what may apply,or we struggle along doing our very best in the hopes we raise happy,productive and secure people. Along the way we make mistakes...plenty of them. But what we do,we do out of love.

    I remember my own mother telling me that no one will ever love and accept you and always be there for you like your family will. Friends will come in and out of your life,but not your family. There's a connection that binds us,and that attachment is hard to break. Receiving disapproval from them in any form is always hard to take,no matter what your age. The worst thing my father ever said to me was when he told me he was disappointed in me. I was 25...and it cut me like a knife. You never know how an innocent remark will sometimes hurt somebody,or how long they will carry the hurt with them. 30 years later,I remember when it happened,but he doesn't even remember saying it!

    Your parents have made mistakes in their lives and are trying to save you from making some of them too. I feel about marriage the same way I felt about my kids getting jobs while they were in high school...once you start working,you'll be working your whole life. Why hurry? Once you get married,you'll be married a LONG time...again,what's the hurry? Before you know it ,and sometimes it feels like it was in a blink of an eye, your life is half lived. I've had my moments when I've wondered 'is that all there is?',but am snapped back to reality when I realize the choices I made are what made me who I am today. I wouldn't change it for a minute.

    The one thing young people have is time. We only want you to use it wisely and have as few regrets as possible. As parents,we still want to fix everything! Plese try not to fault them too much for not wanting to let you go....

     

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