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saraja87: Oh man, LA traffic is the worst. I went to LA for 2 days last year to interview for a job and no joke spent about 8 hours in the car in 2 days, maybe more. I’d pick whichever clinic is the easiest commute then without the parking lot that will drive you nuts every time! Thanks for clarifying about the PGD. That makes sense. I thought you were talking only about day 5 PGD (I’m in the same boat as you in not really considering day 3 PGD due to the better accuracy with day 5…we wouldn’t want to risk having any embryos identified as “abnormal” on day 3 that actually would have been fine).
krystallite: FX for you.
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krystallite: Good luck! FX for you
Post # 123
saraja87: Ugh, what a big decision but sounds like you’ve really done your research. Sounds like you’ve discounted the smaller clinic. Youre right to look at whatever clinics that are near. At least there are a choice of clinics that are near you. I hope you’ve made your decision soon.
krystallite: Thinking of you today. Fx
nyckitten: Fingers crossed for you for Friday.
andielovesj: Gid, you really have had crappy luck. Did you move to India this cycle? I missed that!
Post # 124
saraja87: I can’t even imagine what I would be feeling like if I had to take progesterone, too. I’m finally starting to chill out some (it’s been 9 days since the trigger, so I guess the HCG is almost all gone.) I tell myself it’s all worth it, but then I get nervous that it won’t work and then it’ll be a huge waste of time, effort, and money.
krystallite: I gotta keep coming back to Weddingbee ;)!
Sooo.. I’m 9 dptrigger and 7dpo, and things aren’t looking too great. 5dpo my temp fell a little, then 6dpo it fell A LOT. And I had some pretty bad cramps in the middle of the night 5dpo and some AF-like cramps on 6dpo. I called my RE’s office because the whole point of me being on Femara was because my cycles are weird and are often incredibly short. (Sometimes I’ll have a 7 day LP, other times I’ll have a 12 day LP with spotting from 8-9dpo.) The conversation was headdesk all the way. I told her about my temperature falling and the cramps and she said OH it’s the Estrace. I said …no, I stopped taking Estrace Friday. OH I see that. Well…you’re taking a pregnancy test next Wednesday! Yes. I know that, but should I be concerned about the cramps and low temperatures? I told her that it would be a waste of $900 if I am still having the same issues I had BEFORE I was on Femara WHILE on Femara. She just kept repeating over and over again that I will be taking a pregnancy test next Wednesday. Finally I just said, okay, thanks and hung up. I feel like if I’m paying this much money, I should be talking to someone who at least has a damn clue. I wasn’t asking for her to say OH YOU’RE PREGNANT or OH YOU’RE STARTING YOUR PERIOD. I just wanted to know if the cramping was something that usually happens during medicated cycles because I never have that kind of cramping that early while not medicated.
It was such a pointless conversation and I felt like I didn’t get anything from it. How frustrating.
So, has anyone else experienced cramping around that time and didn’t start AF within the next couple of days? I’m so stressed that the medicine did nothing aside from make a big follicle.
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ShellVee: i agree that it is disrespectful to break any office rule that is clearly stated. while my re office doesn’t have such a policy, i worry about this infertility faux pas as i am hoping to ttc #2 very shortly. i know that i will sometimes need to bring my daughter with me to appointments because they are scheduled very early in the morning, before daycare opens.
knowing the hurt i experienced seeing ladies bring their children last time around, i will do everything i can to avoid bringing her. but if i have to, i hope the other patients will be understanding.
Post # 126
Peffy: I’m sorry things aren’t going well and your RE’s office aren’t being helpful. Surely they are used to people asking questions and could have made it less frustrating and pointless.
So I’ve had some bad news. We went for our RE appointment on Tuesday and things aren’t looking good. On my end there are big improvements. Thyroid is doing what it is meant to, my vitamin D levels are perfect after being deficient in April and I’m ovulating on Clomid like a champ (her words). Darling Husband on the other hand…he has had an SA done before and there were no major problems. He had another one before this appointment and they did a trial wash as well and it turns out we have male factor issues too…if everything we had been through wasn’t enough! I don’t have the details in front of me but essentially he has a lot of sperm but very few viable ones. The ones that are good are bad swimmers and the good swimmers are bad. She was very surprised with the result as she want expecting it.
My RE has said that the next step is to have another SA and wash in 4weeks to confirm and if it is the same then we are looking at IVF with ICSI starting in September. We will do one more cycle of clomid and timed intercourse in the meantime.
It’s all a bit of a shock and I have NO IDEA how we are going to pay for it. This cycle isn’t bust yet. I’m 14dpo and no sign of AF but I think my O day may have been off. There were some communication issues with the clinic. I tested tonight and BFN so I’m going to leave it a few more days.
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It’s positive!!! I held out and didn’t test at home until the blood test yesterday. Then I waited to listen to the voicemail until about 11pm last night when I got home from work so I could listen to it with Darling Husband. Ahhhh it doesn’t seem real! It’s like I’m in a dream. We both started crying and laughing and replaying the message over and over. POAS this morning and for the first time in my life, those 2 beautiful lines appeared. Almost instantly.
I’m soo rooting for all of you ladies in your current cycles. Everyone’s story is different, but everyone has the same goal and I wish you all the luck that I can. Thanks for letting me share my news 🙂
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krystallite: Yay!! Congrats!! FX for a happy and healthy 9 mo.
Novella: So sorry to hear about your DH’s SA. We have MFI too…if there’s one thing I’ve learned about SA’s it’s that they can vary a lot from time to time. So especially given that your DH’s first SA was normal, I think your doc’s first step of rechecking in a few weeks is a good one. In the meantime your Darling Husband could start some basic steps for sperm quality (no hot baths, certain vitamins if he’s not alraedy on them, etc.)
Peffy: That sounds like an extremely frustrating conversation. FX that the symptoms and temp drop don’t mean much. I don’t temp and haven’t really had cramping much in my cycles, so don’t really have any advice. But I don’t think it’s over until a negative test or AF.
AFM, things aren’t looking so good. Yesterday at 6dp5dt I had a faint positive on a Wondfo and allowed myself to momentarily get (cautiously) excited. It was very tough to concentrate all day, wondering “what if maybe this time it’s for real?” Unfortuantely, this morning, 7dp5dt, there’s no more line. It looks like probably this is gonna be our 3rd CP. Tomorrow I have a blood test…I’m guessing it might show a very small level of HCG and then we’ll have to drag things out over the weekend to get rechecked next week once it’s 0. Sigh. I definitely prefer straight-up negatives to the CP’s — having your emotions jerked around like that is really hard for me and Darling Husband. Still trying to hold out a bit of (irrational) hope that maybe this morning’s was just a faulty test and perhaps there’s still a chance of good news tomorrow.
Post # 129
Peffy: I’ve had cramping that started early on too. I don’t know how much of it was due to medications and how much was due to actually being PG. I know I had cramping last cycle with crinone and estrace, but I don’t think it was as early. I know you just want to know and I wish I could tell you for sure, but I haven’t taken Femara to lengthen LP. I’m cheering for you that your cramps are good ones!!!!!
Novella: I’m glad to hear your end is going strong. That’s a big help! It’s MUCH easier said than done, but look at the good. You’re all good and everything is working on your end, so plus side #1 is that it’s only one of you and you’re not trying to get 2 issues to cooperate. Plus side #2 is that he still has some good swimmers in there. It can change by the time he does his next SA. What was he doing 3 months ago? Drinking often, hot tub? Anything like that? Since that’s when his guys were being produced, maybe that can help pinpoint if there’s something he can change in diet or activities? FX that everything improves on his end with the next SA. Sending you a hug!
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nyckitten: I’m so sorry things aren’t looking better for you 🙁 One test could have been more sensitive than the other, I’m still keeping everything crossed for you. As we make our clinic rounds trying to find a clinic closer to home to consider (damn LA traffic) I’ve been asking clinics about what they use PGD for most often, and it’s usually for a situation like yours. Only something like 10% of their PGD cycles are to screen for genetic disorders, while the other 90% are to check chromosomes in cases of multiple miscarriages, chemical pregnancies, or advanced age. One clinic tends to have slightly older patients and they PGD screen 90% of their patient base, nearly all of them, because of chemical pregnancies/miscarriages. FX this is it for you and you won’t need IVF again, but if you do, it sounds like you would be in good hands to get a healthy embryo.
phoebephoebo: Thinking about you, hoping you get more good news soon.
Peffy: That sounds incredibly frustrating and I’d definitely be unsatisfied with that response in your shoes. When I did my IUIs, they had basically all their patients take progesterone if they did a medicated cycle because it helps correct for any LP defect and gives the potential embryo a better shot at sticking. The progesterone is no fun, but with a 7 day LP I’d probably be demanding it and asking why they haven’t put you on it before. My LP is usually a day or two shorter than what is ideal, and the progesterone basically lengthens it until you stop taking it. If there is an embryo in there, 7 days is an awfully short time period to ask it to implant.
thesaurus rex: I think it depends on your behavior, and it already sounds like you’re sensitive to the other patients around you. There were a couple people who brought babies with them while I was doing my IUIs and they were always kind, quiet and respectful. Definitely made me feel more hopeful that the treatment was working for someone vs resentful that they weren’t being sensitive. At the IVF clinic, the group of people (6 people, couldn’t one of them have watched the kid elsewhere? It was 3pm!) who brought a child let her run around destroying the waiting room (this kid was at least 4) while they basically chatted amongst themselves and ignored her, and I admit I was a whole lot less disposed to be understanding. I’m sure you’ll be fine when it’s time to TTC #2 🙂
Novella: I’m sorry, we have male factor issues too and it’s so upsetting when you find out there’s something else wrong on top of everything else. DH’s SAs varried so widely they were almost like samples from different people – 23 million one time, 0 the next. Maybe this SA was just a fluke. FX you got lucky this cycle, it sounds like a lot of your issues have greatly improved and if he’s got at least some good swimmers in there it’s definitely still possible!
krystallite: Congratulations! Happy and healthy 9 months 🙂
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Novella: I’m sorry you got bad news with the SA, I hope a miracle occurs before Sept but if not I hope IVF #1 brings you a BFP.
krystallite: Congratulations! I’ve said it before but this thread often is lucky to newcomers! Best wishes to you.
nyckitten: Noooooo! Not a chemical, please, please, please let this be a true BFP. Holding out hope for you.
AFM not much going on. About 9 days away from AF then we will start IVF #2. Not sure if I will do acupuncture or not, wish there was a clear answer whether it was beneficial or not (I did it for 6 months early on TTC but didn’t get much out of it) It’s been weird, but nice, not having appointments since our WTF appointment May 30 but I’m ready to get the ball rolling again. My two BFFs are both pregnant (told me the minute the stick was pink) so all I hear is baby talk, I’m ready to join them!
Post # 132
lonsk: Good luck on IVF #2, I’ve got everything crossed that this is your lucky cycle! Were you doing acupuncture with someone who specializes in fertility? My acupuncturist is a certified nurse midwife (Masters in nursing, masters in chinese medicine) who has been delivering babies for 30+ years and who basically taught at least one of the doctors at every clinic in Los Angeles how to deliver babies lol. It gets really pricey so if we were going to do it, I wanted to do it with someone all the IVF doctors would trust and who knew what they were doing. It made a big difference for me, my AFC has increased each month that I’ve been doing it and taking the herbs so I’d definitely recommend it. Plus, when you’re spending almost 40,000, a couple extra don’t seem like such a big deal lol.
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I’ll come back tonight to catch up with every one… Been busy with back to work stuff and anniversary celebrations etc. Anyway been a bad few days – both the girls I know on “baby watch” had their kids one day after the other (Tues and Wed) so I was kind of upset (but trying to pretend I was “happy for them” you know the feeling I mean) and then I started spotting at 4 DPO 🙁 Today is CD23/7DPO and pretty sure AF has started. So yay onto cycle 21 🙁 and I guess I need to book my HyCoSy now… I’m just super frustrated today 🙁 and still got an hour before the clinic opens…
Darling Husband went for his latest SA on Tuesday too so we were already sensitive to the IF stuff that day so new bub felt like a kick to the uterus – least I didn’t cry this time haha. Next round of “baby watch” is end Sept – Early Oct. With 3 (yes 3) friends due at the same time…
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saraja87: thank you. Both acupuncturists specialize in fertility. This new one I consulted with was recommended on the ivf.ca forums, she went through fertility treatments herself. I just didn’t feel confident in her, and my first one, although a fertility specialist I felt was more concentrated on other areas (although I’m aware its all connected). In the grand scheme of things I suppose the additional cost is worth it.
ShellVee: Sorry you’re having a rough time. Hugs
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ShellVee: I’m sorry about AF 🙁
lonsk: If you didn’t love either of your acupuncturists, I’d keep looking. You should definitely feel confident and comfortable with them since you see them at least once a week. I believe in a whole body approach to medicine, but my background is in biology so I was a bit skeptical and had pretty specific requirements. It was important to me that they be a Western medical professional (or have some background in Western medicine) as well as an Acupuncturist so they’d understand my issues from both the Eastern and Western perspectives. Does your IVF clinic work with anyone they’d recommend?