(Closed) 19th Duggar child born almost 3 months premature

posted 10 years ago in Babies
Post # 17
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2009

I agree that some premies do really well, but having spent a good majority of my residency in the NICU, I can say that is not always the case.  At 24 weeks (Michelle’s child is 25 weeks), 50% of babies will survive and 50% of those will have permanent disability.

Here is some actual information about outcomes of prematurity.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/461571

Culling from the article: “about 50% for ELBW infants weighing less than 750 grams.<sup>”</sup>

1 lb= 450 grams… so that means 50% survival.

Outcomes improve every year, but prematurity is no joke and should be taken very seriously.

Post # 18
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

I agree with you.  Luckily our little ones in our hospital are doing fine.  There’s three and I think they refer to them micro-preemies when they’re that little.

Were those stats worldwide or from the US only?  I would find that interesting to know. 

Post # 19
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

I work in the NICU and I have to say that Bellenga, you are very very lucky!

I keep tabs on a lot of NICU graduates and it can be a long, hard road, with many future hospitalizations for future illness, weaker than average immune systems, potential vision problems etc etc etc

I think that at her age, they should be thinking long and hard about not having any more kids. Also this child has real potential to be special needs, and could require a lot more care. 

Premature babies can have visual and auditory problems, long term effects to their lungs and heart, they can require oxygen at home long-term, have weaker immune systems which makes them far more prone to illness, and are more likely to require hospitalization if they become ill (and who is going to take care of everyone else if the parents are caring for a hospitalized child). Since they have so many other children at home, their preemie is even more at risk of getting sick once it is home. They can have have bowel infections, colostomy bags if bowel dies from those infections, and even if they avoid colostomies, can have long-term nutrition issues from damaged intestines.

These are all quite common among preemies, it is a really serious thing, and even though some are lucky, it is really hard to know within the first year of life how much impact prematurity will have had on them physiologically.

Post # 20
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

Just to add to Mrs. DG:

I will search for the article, but there is a lot of evidence that preemies born at sea level fare much better than those at higher altitudes, at very high altitudes (like denver), they see some form of disability or death in up to 90% of preemies born, that means only 10% will be totally normal. 

For reference, Little Rock Arkansas is around 300ft elevation, Denver CO is about 5000 ft

Post # 21
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

I just want to say that having 18 healthy children is amazing. I don’t necessarily agree with why they’re having kids, etc etc but that’s not something for me to decide for them. I just think that, in today’s day and age, having that many children is something quite amazing and incredible. 

Not that it’s a lifestyle for me, and like a poster above me said, I do think that there’s a lot of unwanted children in the world without bringing in so many just because you don’t want to take contraception. 

Post # 22
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: September 2010

I can barely imagine having my first baby….let alone 19. Wow. I hope their baby stays healthy.

Post # 23
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: June 2009

I hope that mother and baby start to do better.  I do agree that I could never have that many kids because of the large number of unwanted kids all over the world.

Post # 24
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

I was given btw a laundry list (one paged typed document with each section typed and page totally filled up) of possible things that could happen to my baby after I had him.

I knew I did everything right, (ate right, exercised moderately, kept good weight, was on top of all ob/gyn appointments) and still it happened despite not having any prior medical conditions or considerations.  In my case, seriously they think it was due to incredible stress and heat.

I’m also a medical professional btw, for what it’s worth.  I don’t work in nicu, in another whole area, but am aware of the severe issues some preemies have with breathing.  My son only had mild reactive-airway issues until he was about four.  Colds that would hang on, and some wheezing.  He’s great now.  He is almost as tall as I am at 11!

Post # 25
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2009

These are only US stats.  You can’t compare our technology to other parts of the world.  Even in Europe there are very different protocols for NICU care (though also with very good outcomes).

I should say that nobody knows why pre-eclampsia happens.  I just want to make sure that we stay factually based 🙂

Who gets Preeclampsia?

Preeclampsia occurs in 5-8 percent of all pregnancies, though it is most common in first-time pregnancies. Some research suggests that one’s risk of preeclampsia is increased with a first pregnancy with a new partner/husband, however recent research suggests that the key factor in that increased risk is not the new husband, but in fact increased maternal age. The most significant risk factors for preeclampsia are found at the following link:

http://www.preeclampsia.org/FAQ.asp

  • Previous history of preeclampsia, particularly if onset is before the third trimester
  • History of chronic high blood pressure, diabetes or kidney disorder
  • Family history of the disorder (i.e., a mother, sister, grandmother or aunt who had the disorder)
  • Women with greater than 30% Body Mass Index (BMI). To determine your BMI, click on the following link http://nhlbisupport.com/bmi/bmicalc.htm and follow the instructions there.
  • Multiple gestation
  • Over 40 or under 18 years of age
  • Polycystic ovarian syndrome
  • Lupus or other autoimmune disorders such as rheumatoid arthritis, sarcoidosis or MS.

Post # 26
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: May 2010

I hope the Duggar family is doing well!  I don’t know so many stats on preemies but of the people I know that were born premature, none have any side effects (that I know of), but I also know from working in a womens/childrens hospital (not in a patient care field but you still learn a lot) that 25 weeks is EXTREMELY early and the chances aren’t that great.  I hope everything turns out well for them.

As far as the too many children issue goes…my personal opinion is that if they can support their kids, then I have no problem with them.  It’s those people who CANT support their kids that I think should stop having kids, especially those in the US where birth control and sex education are readily available.  It is important, however, to plan for the future, and pushing Michelle Duggar’s health may make it so that their family is not provided for (not just with money but in other ways) in the future.  Just my 2cents!

Post # 27
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: January 2010

i really hope mom and baby do well- it would rip that family apart to lose either

Post # 28
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2010

I hope they are doing well… I was so sad to read that she gave birth prematurely.   While I can’t even wrap my head around having 1 kid, let alone 19, I think she and Jim seem like very nice people. Hoping for the best for them!

Post # 29
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Busy bee

I think it would be the end of the show if something horrible happend to either baby or mother.  to me it doesnt seem natural to have that many kids.  i enjoy their show though because of their tight family bonds but i think it’s about time she retired from the baby making business.

random but ironic, my name is also Josi and I was a preemie, haha!

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