Post # 1
I need some assistance as this is escalating quickly at my daughter’s daycare and I wish to nip it quickly and find a resolution for everyone. The daycare has told me that my daughter is spitting up after being fed so we figured she is just being overfed as she just started solids and we are working on getting a plan worked out, so she is consuming everything instead if spitting up. The Morning teacher blatantly told me that she wasn’t going to follow the new schedule as they can’t feed the babies within an hour of being dropped off because it’s not fair to the babies who have been there.
After having the discussion at drop off the office staff told me the teacher would follow my schedule but I had my reservations so did a pop in while on lunch, the teacher was following the old schedule and wasn’t giving the right ounces bottles at the correct time which would again result in my daughter spitting up and not have the minimum ounces per day she needs which is 24. If the teacher is only giving 3 bottles and she give two 4oz and one 3oz then that is only 11oz and my daughter is now dehydrated. I know this because this morning she was straining very hard to have a Bridesmaid or Best Man and it was nugget like, which is not normal for her.
6:00-6:30 AM Wake-Up: Breast-fed
8AM daycare drop off
9:00-9:30 AM [email protected]: Water in sippy cup and 2 oz baby food.
12:00-12:30 PM [email protected]: Water in sippy cup and 2 oz baby food.
12:30-1:00 PM Bottle (2) 4oz
3:00 PM Bottle (3) 4oz
5:45-6 PM snack/Parent pickup
5:00-5:30 AM Wake-Up: Breast-fed
6:00-6:30 AM [email protected]: Water in sippy cup and 2 oz baby food.
8:00-8:30 AM Daycare Bottle (1) 4oz
9:30 AM Nap
11:00 AM Bottle (2) 3oz
12:00-12:30 PM [email protected]: Water in sippy cup and 2 oz baby food.
1:30-2:00 PM Nap
2:00- 2:30 PM Bottle (3) 4oz
5:00-5:30 PM Bottle (4) 4oz
5:30-6:00 Parent pickup
If child not picked up by 6 offer snack.
Naps are flexible
Post # 2
Is she having breastmilk or formula at daycare?
Post # 3
breast milk or formula is primary nutrients before 1. she should be getting her bottle first then food.
6 hours between bottles is a long time. at 8 months, i would still be doing bm/f every 3-4 hours.
Post # 4
KKJohnson : I definitely think you’re right in that the bottles need to be spaced out through the day, not just 2 back to back in the afternoon, but now that she’s on solids and water you won’t need as much breastmilk since it sounds like you’re still nursing at home. 4 bottles at this age is probably too much especially with that much solid food.
Post # 5
LilliV : She was drinking 25oz a day @daycare prior to solids, that is why she is now down to at least 15oz minium with solids. She has to be given a bottle ever 3 hours by the daycare, so that does equal to 3 bottles on the old schedue but when they are feeding her back to back with 2 oz of puree then a bottle she was spitting up. We tried switching to less ounces and more bottles, 3 oz bottle (4) instead of 4 oz bottles (3); the daycare still only gave her 3 bottles which lead to the dehydration.
Kemma : breastmilk
Post # 6
ajillity81 : I completely agree, that is why i printed out the new schedule for the teacher but she chose to ignore it. I am just not sure what else I can do or if someone else had any suggestions over how to handle this, we have only been at the daycare for a month now. The prior daycare wasn’t feeding for 4-5 hours so we had to pull her. I feel like because she is such a happy easy baby that teachers are just not taking her care very seriously
Post # 7
KKJohnson : 25 ounces of breastmilk at daycare is MASSIVE. Babies only need about 25 ounces all day and you’re still nursing before and after daycare (and maybe through the night?). When my daughter was that age she was still taking anywhere from 9-12 ounces while I was at work (apart for 10ish hours) as she always had and then added in the solids. At that age we only sent in 1 serving of solids to serve as “lunch”.
Post # 8
LilliV : yup, the general rule of thumb is 1-1.5oz of breastmilk per hour so 25 ounces is a tonne of milk!
Based on a three hourly bottle schedule I’d expect baby to take 3-5 ounces per feed, I’d also possibly back off on the water so that she’s thirsty for breastmilk rather filling up on water (and too much water isn’t good for babies).
i would also direct the daycare to offer a bottle before solids so they’re not wasting all that precious milk that you’re pumping!
Post # 9
At 8 months, my son breastfed first thing in the morning, twice during the day, and right before bed. I would feed him when he woke up for the day/after naps, and then give solids sometime after that. To be honest, he hasn’t been that into eating during the day for a while now, like will only eat 2-3 min with me constantly trying to keep him paying attention. So it sounds like she is getting plenty of milk during the day to me.
As a side note re: constipation, my son seems to put a lot of effort into it even when it is soft, apparently they need to get used to having actual solid food moving through. Also, I don’t know what type of baby food you mean, but if it is cereal then large amounts of carbs can make it difficult for them. If she is getting purées with fruits/veggies then maybe try one with extra fibre or prunes or something?
Post # 10
Kemma : she mainly plays with the cup of water, sippy cups and straw cups should be introduced at 6+months old so that is what I am doing. Also the new schedule DOES suggest to give bottles before food but the dang teacher did not listen to me. But the water is something I did ask about becuase I was wondering if the water was an issue as well, they said she mostly get one swallow in and thats it.
LilliV : Yes thank you, I understand 25 oz for a day at daycare is alot but she was usually only drinking 20oz which is still more than the normal but every blue moon she would drink all the milk so that is why I supplied so much (old daycare she was staying 12 hours a day). She is a tiny baby 4th percentile for weight and 5th for height so she can use whatever we give her. She was taking at least a total of 32oz+/- of milk a day so now she is down to 24oz a day with breastfeeding included in that calculation. My daughter has slept through the night since 7 weeks so we don’t have nightly feedings, also it is recommended to at least have 2 meals (if baby will accept) at this age.
I also know my child, when she isn’t getting enough nutritional intake her BM’s slow down. We increased her ounces to 20-25oz at the daycare because she wasn’t having any BMs (yes, I am also aware breastfed babies can go up to 2 weeks w/o a BM) but she also wasn’t gaining weight and had lost 2 oz from 4 month checkup to 6 month checkup. I really wasn’t expecting to need to go over my reasons for the ounces supplied, I was only looking for advise over the schedule if anyone had it. The amount of bottles given to my tiny child at this point in time is correct, this isn’t just a number I have randomly selected.
**granted education information is not a set thing so I understand that some statements can be contrariety to what others have read (myself included)
Post # 11
mrsnnn3 : I have not given any carbs and we def wont be doing cereal, I am still on the fence with oatmeal at this age. This mornings strain was much different than her normal strain, she got extremely red in the face several times, loud grunting, and then the poop itself was nugget like. We currently give the brand Little Spoon puree food which is a nice mix of fruit and veggie; I do give her baby yogurt (3x total now), solid meats (egg,chicken/pork), she has only had solid fruit 3x as well (blackberries, 1 tiny bannana portion).
Post # 12
I guess I’m confused about what you’re looking for. You mentioned that you’d like to address the problem with the daycare not following your new instructions, so I’d probably approach this two fold. 1, try your new system at home and see if she is in fact spitting up. If not, then 2., speak with the director/manager/person in charge. You might also try different types of baby foods. My son and daughter were vastly different in their preferences and consumption amounts at that age- maybe she just doesn’t like what she’s eating? Also, with regard to the sippy cups, agree on introducing them, but I think most pediatricians would suggest (I’m not one, but my husband is and I’ve heard him give this advice many timeS) that you put formula or breast milk in the cup- not water particularly if you’re concerned about low/slow/no weight gain. PP is correct- babies are still getting the majority of their calories from breast milk or formula until around a year and the food introduction is more about the mechanics of learning to eat than the calories from babyfood. Lastly, if your babe is on the small side and your doc is suggesting weight gain, you might ask your doc about a weight gaining formula supplement with your breast milk. My niece was and is still very underweight (she just made the scales at 2years at the 4th percentile) and they’re still supplementing her (now cows milk) with weight gaining formula. Good luck!
Post # 13
No answers, but it’s frustrating that a daycare won’t even attempt to follow your requests. That’s hard and feels unfair. You’d think that a place that you’re paying and entrusting with the care of your child would feel more obligated to adhere to what feels like a reasonable request. Is the problem that all the caregivers are busy giving milk to the other babies who get dropped off earlier at the time that you want her to be fed? I still think they should be able to manage to give her the number of bottles that you stipulate at fairly regular intervals.
Post # 14
What if you brought in a note from your pediatrician?
Post # 15
No one has brought this up yet but:
Is daycare pace feeding her bottles? This could explain everything from eating 25 oz a day while away from you and spitting up if she is eating too quickly and not getting the signal that she is full.