Post # 1
I’m not sure how to feel about the recent decision that they will allow gay members but not gay leaders. Is this a step forward in humanity or really just a glass half empty thing? Would someone being openly gay as a leader make them a pedophile? I think not – and really, aren’t there enough of them already?
Is it because they don’t want to have gay men leading boys because they think they might “catch the gay”? Like what’s the deal with that? I guess I have to look at it as some sort of a baby step forward, but at the same time, I’m still saddened and somewhat disgusted by the decision.
Why does it matter what position you’re in. Being gay doesn’t make you a criminal or any less of a person than being straight. I feel like while this decision is better than nothing, it’s still not good enough.
Post # 3
@lia22: I agree completely. Having openly gay leaders would really be the step forward this organization needs to promote true equality. Just because a leader is gay doesn’t make it any more or less likely that they would behave inappropriately with the boys than if they were a straight leader.
Post # 4
The Boyscouts are bigots. They are allowing gay boyscouts in because of all the social media bashing them for their decisions to (originally) ban gay scouts.
If I ever have a son, my child will not be aligned with this organization. This is an all or nothing deal, and I think they’re doing it just because they want to media and the pressure to go away. I hope it doesn’t. Gay leaders can be just as fantastic as straight leaders.
Boyscouts are supposed to be about teamwork, companionship, tolerance, but this just furthers the gap between all of those fundamental things.
Post # 5
@Hyperventilate: Legit, when we found out we were having a boy the thoughts that came into my head in order:
1. Crap, now I’m going to have to make a decision on circumcision.
2. Crap, the Boy Scouts better get their shit together because I don’t think we have any generic “Adventure Scout” troop in these parts.
3. Yaaaay – a boy!
Post # 6
@Hyperventilate: I agree. I was so disgusted when this topic came up in the first place. And I am still disgusted at the result.
I cannot wait for the day when this world is something I can call a truly better place than it is now, and I just hope that it’s in my lifetime.
Hell, maybe one day gay people will be allowed to donate blood. Wouldn’t that be a change.
Post # 7
I think they could learn quite a bit from Scouts. Is there any discussion between the 2 groups?
Post # 8
This entire way of thinking is so ass backwards. And as much as everyone tries to fight it, it will change (for the good, as in equality). Just like rights for African Americans, etc. Someday, hopefully, our kids kids will look back at this day and think “What the hell was their problem? Where they stupid?” and we can rest easy knowing that we were ahead of the cruve already, and did not support this idiotic way of thinking.
Post # 9
@AB Bride: between blood donation and boyscouts? I’m not sure if that’s what you’re referring to?
Post # 10
@honie309: you’re totally right. A few weeks ago my FIL was explaining Rosa Parks to my 8 1/2 yr old daughter as she read a little book on it and was asking WHY. When he told her some of the ridiculous things that happened (PG version) like having different bathrooms, the bus situation etc, she replied with “well that’s just stupid, why would they ever do that?”
One day humanity will look back at how stupid this is, and they’ll ask the same things. Unfortunately us humans take way too long to figure out how seriously dumb we are as a whole these days. There’s still enough racism in the world to prove that, even if the majority aren’t so ignorant.
Post # 11
@lia22: Between Scouts (Canada) and Boyscouts (of America).
Post # 12
Agree with AB Bride: Scouts Canada certainly has a more welcoming policy to members of the Gay Community.
I am guessing that somehow the Boy Scouts of America were reluctant to include boy members because they thought that “gayness” could be caught (seriously back @ss thinking)
And now I am guessing they don’t want Gay Adults because they are afraid that the Leaders will influence or worse prey upon the Youth Members
There is a name for that be it a Male Leader sexually preying on a Child… or a Female Leader (do they have those in the US Boy Scouts ?) sexually preying on a Child
It is called PEDOPHILE… plain & simple and a criminal offence.
Honestly, I think this ruling just shows how back-woods in thought Boy Scouts of America is (sad)
And another example where the USA needs to step up to the plate, and join the 21st Century where a lot of the rest of the world is now living in true freedom
8-} *rolls eyes*
Post # 13
I find it all ridiculous. Gay == pedophile and actually, from my understanding of the research, more molestors are straight men! My cousin is working on his eagle and his dad is a regional leader person (unsure the real title?) and he knows some of the scout dads and their “close family friends” are…. Not just friends, but he is not about to call anyone out on that! Those boys need their dads involved just like anyone else.
Post # 14
I tihnk this is a situation where anything Canada vs US has discrepancy. No offense to anyone, but come on USA, let’s get more with the times.
Post # 15
Hopefully they can catch up and join us here in the future sometime.
The scouts, I mean.