(Closed) A “feminist” discussion….

posted 7 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: Your feminist standpoint......
    I am a feminist and make it known : (100 votes)
    50 %
    I am a feminist but don't often share my opinions/views. : (39 votes)
    19 %
    Don't care... : (36 votes)
    18 %
    What is feminism? : (2 votes)
    1 %
    Not a feminist at all. : (24 votes)
    12 %
  • Post # 3
    Member
    1058 posts
    Bumble bee

    That would be hardly a “feminist” thing, you were just pointing out inaccuracies.  I have experienced the wrath of “the feminist” and even though I’m a girl and do believe in equal rights it got rather annoying. She would FIGHT EVERYTHING.  What you have mentioned I wouldn’t consider you a feminist. haha

    Post # 4
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: September 2011

    A feminist is someone who believes in equal rights and opportunities for women.  I consider myself pretty proud to be one and find it upsetting that for some people the word has a negative connotation.

    I think more accurately you were being a proofreader or copy-editor.  In both those instances you were right and it had a lot more to do with accuracy than equal rights.  Honestly it’s pretty lame that people were too lazy to acknowledge their mistakes and criticized you for being a feminist over it as if that were a bad thing.

    Post # 5
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    1267 posts
    Bumble bee

    Being a feminist just means someone that believes in EQUAL rights for women and men.  That’s all.  Sadly, a trick of opponents of ANY position is to try to equate the word with something negative.  It only has to be in the tone, you know ‘oh, you’re a feminist?’ As if I’m saying ‘oh, you don’t shower?’ or something 🙂 Could you imagine someone saying ‘oh, you’re an abolitionist?’ in the same tone?  Makes it sound extreme and wrong, huh?

    The two instances you mentioned have nothing to do with being a feminist, anyway.  Just correcting someone that was inaccurate. *shrugs*  Don’t sweat it.

    Post # 6
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    5096 posts
    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: June 2011

    I am a proud feminist.  What it means to me: supporting gender equality and promoting justice and fairness for everyone – men, women, gay, straight, of all races. It also means (to me) recognizing issues of structural inequality, challenging the viewpoint that such inequality is natural or inevitiable, and working to reduce it. 

    One of my favorite quotes:

    “I myself have never been able to find out what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute.”

    – Rebecca West

    Post # 7
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    1890 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: May 2011

    I don’t think the two incidents you described make you a feminist, it just means that other people were being inaccurate/inconsiderate.  I don’t put on my resume that I was a waitress and a salesgirl, I put that I was a server and a sales associate–that’s just being politically correct.

    I think sometimes guys like to call a woman a “feminist” like it’s an insult because they are sexist and feel like it’s an easy way to put down a strong, intelligent woman.

    Post # 8
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    1480 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: December 2010

    Feminists have gotten a bad rap – mostly unfairly, in my opinion. Yes, there are some radical feminists who take it way too far. These people diminish the credibility of feminism as a whole and I don’t consider them to be true feminists, just angry people with serious issues who have hijacked feminism as a vehicle to push their own crazy agendas. Not cool.

    So when people use the word “feminist” to describe someone, they can mean it in very different ways. They might think it means, “psycho man-hating bra-burning women.” Or they might actually mean, “people who believe in equal rights and opportunities for women.” Yes, people. Men can be feminists too.

    I bristle when I hear women say defensively, “Oh no, I’m definitely not a feminist!” because by saying it like it’s a bad thing, they are perpetuating the idea that feminists are all  horrible and crazy, and agreeing with the accuser that feminism is a negative thing.

    How soon we forget and take for granted all the progress that feminism has brought. Feminists are the reason you and I can vote. They’re the reason we can wear pants and play sports. They’re the reason you and I can go to university and study whatever subject we want. They’re the reason why women are finally starting to be taken seriously in traditionally male careers. I could go on and on.

    I am a feminist, and I say it proudly. Feminism is NOT a bad thing, and I’m not going to apologize or be ashamed for it. The more of us that stand together and say, “Hey, we’re all REGULAR folks, and we’re feminists!” the less stigmatized feminism will be.

    The fight’s not over yet, folks – feminism is still enormously relevant. There are still major issues even in well-developed countries, but women all over the world are still practically living in the dark ages. They could use a lot of help.

    Post # 9
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    1480 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: December 2010

    @mightywombat: LOVE that quote!!

    Post # 10
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    1480 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: December 2010

    @Entangled: Yes exactly, those were just cheap jabs made by ignorant jerks. We can’t let people like that define what feminism is.

    Post # 11
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    536 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: February 2011

    @jayce:Instead of saying something infinitely less eloquently than you just have, I will second everything you said!

    Post # 13
    Member
    1267 posts
    Bumble bee

    @jayce:

    So true.  I find that a lot of young women have bought into the purposeful negative stereotyping of what a feminist is.  I was talking with a girl at work who is about 22 and she said ‘I’m not a feminist or anything!’ and I said ‘do you think women and men should be able to vote?’ and she said ‘duh, yes, of course!’ I said ‘do you think you should be able to go to school in a major of your choosing’ and she said ‘yeees..’ and then I said ‘do you think you should be able to make financial descisions, own property and exert your opinion even while married?’ and she said ‘yes, ok, fine, I guess I’m a feminist but I always think of them as bitches’ and I said ‘so did the people that didn’t want them to have rights’ 🙂

    Post # 14
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    1480 posts
    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: December 2010

    @luckyprincess: Bravo! You’ve just put a big smile on my feminist face!

    Post # 16
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    2392 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: September 2011

    @luckyprincess:  Burn.  That is awesome!  😀  I may have to rip you off at some point.

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