(Closed) A “feminist” discussion….

posted 10 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: Your feminist standpoint......

    I am a feminist and make it known

    I am a feminist but don't often share my opinions/views.

    Don't care...

    What is feminism?

    Not a feminist at all.

  • Post # 17
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    Bumble bee

    Lol – thanks ladies!  She loves to tell new people that story and said she now calls herself a feminist <3

    Post # 18
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: November 1999

    If you’re a person you should be a feminist. It dosn’t mean you go around burning bras and hating men, it means you respect women.

    Post # 19
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    Bumble bee
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    @atlanta

    Couldn’t have said it better.

    Post # 20
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    Bee Keeper
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    i wouldnt call myself a feminists but i believe and expect equality for both genders

    Post # 21
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

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    @jayce: WORD. i’m really tired right now and don’t have the energy to post a real response, so i’ll just say, ditto!

     

    Post # 22
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    Bumble bee

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    @eloping:

    I guess I don’t understand why you wouldn’t call yourself a feminist but then told us that you are the definition of a feminist?

    Post # 23
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    Buzzing bee
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    @Atalanta: Hear, hear!

    I am a proud feminist. And I say that because I believe in reclaiming the word–I think that the contortion of the word into something women should be ashamed of is pretty scary. 

    And yeah, the two issues that you’ve cited aren’t really feminist issues–although I do think that they *could* be feminist issues: pointing out that a league is dual-gender is pointing out an inaccuracy. For someone to say that it’s “feminist” to point that out is a problem. 

     

    Post # 24
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    Buzzing bee
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    It’s too bad that like the word “atheist”, “feminist”  has come to have negative connotations in general conversation (to some people).

    When my parents were married, which was in the early 70’s, my mother couldn’t get a credit card in her own name, and it had nothing to do with her credit – it was because she was a woman. It wasn’t until almost the mid-70’s that credit card companies were barred from discriminating against women based on their gender (and not because they didn’t qualify for credit). That’s less than 40 years ago ladies, meaning, this was the situation with most all of our mothers!!

    We have it “good” now, and things are still not equal. Yeah, I’m a feminist, and I hope our daughters have it better than we do now.

    Post # 25
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    Bee Keeper
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    @luckyprincess:  i guess because i dont like labels.  men dont need a label to expect education, a fair wage and other rights so why should i

     

    Post # 26
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    Bumble bee

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    @eloping:

    I understand about not liking labels!  🙂  However, I know lots of men that consider themselves feminists because they believe that women and men should be considered equal legally and morally.

    Post # 27
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    Honey Beekeeper
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    Like eloping – I believe in equal rights and opportunites for both women and men but a don’t consider myself a feminist.

    For one, I don’t really like labelling myself and putting myself into groups.  Secondly, I disagree with many of the other ways that “feminism” is expanded to and therefore don’t want to be affiliated with those beliefs.

    As an example (that come up here on the Hive frequently) – the last name change following marriage.  Many feminists are opposed to women changing to their husband’s name after marriage for a variety of reasons every single one of which I whole-heartedly disagree with.  By labeling myself a feminist, I then get associated with those things that I don’t believe in (I do not mean this as a jab at those who choose not to change their name for whatever reason – that is everyone’s personal choice and has not bearing on me – I just don’t want those beliefs/justifications associated with me because I don’t hold them myself).

    Post # 28
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    Worker bee
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    @mightywombat: I ADORE that quote!  Another one, the source of which I forget, is “Feminism is the radical notion that women are people.”

    Post # 29
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    Bumble bee
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    @eloping: That is exactly how I feel.

    Like most people, I believe in treating people fairly and basic general kindness. I’m against prejudices. I don’t think that means that I need to label my thoughts about women’s rights “feminism” — when I just believe in fairness for all people. I don’t go around calling myself a “African-Americanist” just because I support the rights of African Americans. (who wouldn’t?) I just feel like it kind of goes without saying.

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    Bumble bee
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    @eloping: Ah, I see you’ve stumbled upon something we feminists call “male privilege.”

    I quite like this blog post on the topic. http://amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/

    But I’ve gotta say, I don’t really understand your logic. Men have never had to fight for the things that women have had to fight for… they’ve had them all along! So of course there’s no “label” for them.

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    @luckyprincess: makes a great point as well that “feminist” isn’t a label that only applies to women. I know some awesome male feminists who don’t mind the label at all.

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    @gabrielleelise1981: It’s really amazing to think of how recent that was. Wow.

    Post # 31
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    Bumble bee
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    @Mrs.KMM: That’s interesting… I know plenty of Christians who don’t agree with every belief or value held by every other Christian – and yet, they are still proud to call themselves Christian.

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