(Closed) A “feminist” discussion….

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  • poll: Your feminist standpoint......

    I am a feminist and make it known

    I am a feminist but don't often share my opinions/views.

    Don't care...

    What is feminism?

    Not a feminist at all.

  • Post # 32
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    Buzzing bee
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    @Mrs.KMM: I think you’re mistaken. Feminism doesn’t say that women have to take their husband’s name. It simply says women should have self-determinism in choosing their name, whether it be their husband’s, their father’s (maiden name, for most), or “Funkyfunkyblahblah” if they so choose. 

     

    Post # 33
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    Honey Beekeeper
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    @JennyW1: I’m saying they exact opposite actually – many feminists use feminism NOT to take their husband’s name for a variety of reasons.  I don’t agree with those reasons and what they imply and don’t want to be associated with them.

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    @jayce: And I know plenty of people who believe in God who specifically do not align themselves with any particular religion because they do not agree with all of the beliefs of that religion and therefore don’t want to be associated with it.  Goes both ways!

    Post # 34
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    Buzzing bee
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    @Mrs.KMM: So you believe a woman should have to take her husband’s name? Is that what you mean by “saying the exact opposite”? I’m not sure I understand. 

    Post # 35
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    Bumble bee
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    @JennyW1: I think she’s saying that she thinks being a feminist means NOT taking your husband’s last name, and she is in disagreement with that. 

    Post # 36
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    @JennyW1: No – I said in my first post that every women should be able to choose to do with her name whatever she wants.

    But many feminists use feminism as a reason to NOT take her husband’s name and are often opposed to the practice as a whole because of what they think it stands for and represents.  I disagree with those beliefs (among other things that many feminists also promote/stand for – name change is just my WB related example).

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    @jayce: I’m not saying that all feminists don’t take their husband’s name – I know many do.  But many others also refuse to do so on principles of “feminism” that I find to be bogus.

    Post # 37
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    @jayce: Ohhh…Well, that’s just wrong. Plenty of feminists take their husbands’ name. My own mother, for example. 

    Post # 38
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    Bumble bee
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    I have to say that when we think of the word ‘feminist’, we think of all things negative: man-bashing, a woman who ‘acts like a man’, etc. I agree with PP’s that feminism is just fighting for EQUAL rights with men. It’s only fair right?

    I’ve been told I was a feminist many times – mostly by women. I am not a feminist just because I believe that women dont always have to cook and clean and never go to college. But, if a feminist is a woman who believes that all women should be treated fairly and not discriminated because they are females, then yes, I am a feminist.

    We have to get rid of all the negative connotations that go along with the word. We’re not in the 60s anymore and burning our bras. We’re just not accepting that we have any less value than a man does.

    Post # 39
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    Bumble Beekeeper
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    I was raised to be a feminist of sorts- but I don’t actually call myself that.  I am an equalist, so-to-say. 

    NYE Gal  I think both of those people were acting “outdated.”  You were simply just stating proper business etiquette with the first person who sounded a little rude in his comment (calling you that- but maybe he didn’t mean to be rude- just saying- HE was sounding antiquated IMO).  As to the indicent with the paper, you were just pointing out an inaccurate statement and representation of what would be happening with the leagues.  For all you know, you were pointing out a clear mistake.  That doesn’t mean you should be called a feminist.  I think calling someone that is a little outdated and… ridiculous. 

    I was raised to think of women as equals by my father- he felt that giving women (and men) confidence and security through education and equal treatment and skills allowed for a better society and a happier one for all- whatever those women (or men) ended up doing in life- even being a stay-at-home mom or dad.

     

    Post # 40
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    Bumble bee
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    Feminism refers to movements aimed at establishing and defending equal political, economic, and social rights and equal opportunities for women.[1][2][3] Its concepts overlap with those of women’s rights. Feminism is mainly focused on women’s issues, but because feminism seeks gender equality, some feminists argue that men’s liberation is therefore a necessary part of feminism, and that men are also harmed by sexism and gender roles.[4][5][6][7] Feminists—that is, persons practicing feminism—can be persons of either sex.

    Feminist theory emerged from these feminist movements[8][9] and includes general theories and theories about the origins of inequality, and, in some cases, about the social construction of sex and gender, in a variety of disciplines. Feminist activists have campaigned for women’s rights—such as in contract, property, and voting—while also promoting women’s rights to bodily integrity and autonomy and reproductive rights. They have opposed domestic violence, sexual harassment, and sexual assault. In economics, they have advocated for workplace rights, including equal pay and opportunities for careers and to start businesses.

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism

    Post # 41
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    Bumble bee
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    @cbee: I think the term is “egalitarian.” I am one too 🙂

    Post # 42
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    Buzzing bee
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    @Mrs.KMM: Ah. Well, accepting that any theory or philosophy is subject to interpretation, to me, using feminism to condemn the choices of other women in that respect is a perversion of it. And, you can quote me, a self-defined feminist who’s mother worked on laws that made it permissible for women to keep their maiden names (and then promptly took my Dad’s name), if you get into any arguments. 

    Post # 43
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    Bumble bee

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    @JennyW1:

    Are you stalking me??? How did you know I took the last name funkyfunkyblahblah??

    Post # 44
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    @luckyprincess: Such a nice ring, right? 

     

    Post # 45
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    I’m just curious to the 8 people that said ‘not a feminist at all’ and I’m NOT being a smartass.  I would just like to know why you don’t think that women and men should be equal in all things.  I guess I’m so curious because I don’t know ANYONE that thinks that way at all.  Even the elderly people I know think that women should be allowed to vote, hold a job, go to school for what they want, not get married, own real estate – all of the things that equate to what being a feminist means.  As women, it seems odd to me that you wouldn’t want to have those rights and I’d love if someone could fill me in on those different views.

    Post # 46
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    Bumble bee

    Yes thanks!  I was afraid that ‘Luckyprincess Funkyfunkyblahblah’ would be too long but I do think it sounds nice 😛

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