Post # 1
This is a tale of 2 simulants
[I don’t work for any of these people and I own many different types of simulants. No one asked me to do this for the Bee-but the knowledge I’ve gotten here is immensely helpful so I’m just paying it forward-there are no endorsements here one way or the other].
In the past 3 weeks I have done a lot of research [coughscompletelygeekedoutongoogle] after finding a different kind of simulant on eBay. They are all the same right? Either you’re carbon or you’re not. Synthetic diamonds don’t get nearly enough clarification in the world of online Engagement Ring shopping. And why? Because true “simulants” advertise themselves as being synthetic. Most of you probably already know this, so humor my findings. In the school of diamond alternatives there is only one rule that is constant. And that rule is, either it’s an organic earth mined diamond, or it’s not. If you shop in the way of a true synthetic diamond however, that makeup chemically is also pure carbon with perhaps a trace element to provide color, but that’s it.
Getting back to the world of simulants. I am strictly talking diamond simulants [this geek out does not include gemstones]. So here are my truths based on my research. Usually the world of simulants is divided into 2 categories, the CZ or the Moissanite. Cubic zirconium (CZ) is the cubic crystalline form of zirconium dioxide (ZrO2). The synthesized material is hard, optically flawless and usually colorless, but may be made in a variety of different colors. It should not be confused with zircon, which is a zirconium silicate (ZrSiO4). Moissanite is Silicon Carbide – SiC.
While perusing all things sparkly one evening, I came across a simulant created by a Canadian based company called Crystal Carbon Laboratories [I searched the Bee for them-I didn’t find anything]. I went as far as to look up the domain name information [to verify the website and its history online], I read reviews, I went back and forth with the owner about this and that. Every question I had for him [even chemically] he was able to answer. His stones are composed of the following: I then went as far as to research the periodic table [I will spare you the findings].
As you all know I love me some cheap sparklies, and I’ve posted many times about Chris cz’s and the magpie in me truly professes bliss when that flash of light goes off when looking at different stones. But we all know there is a common issue with Cz’s. They are soft, and they cloud in time [usually-but not always the case as other bees have reported]. So today, I had the opportunity to compare 2 different stones. What you see below are side by side photos of the CC Labs round, vs. the same carat in a cz-although the cuts are different it was still a good side by side in the scale weights and grams. But you can see the difference here, clearly. I also took some photos with my 4ct Moissanite. For reference-each of the side by side stones were 3.5ct in weight. You be the judge. Bottom line for me? it’s a gorgeous freaking stone! Enjoy Bees!
Post # 3
Great information. Thanks for sharing!
I’m really pleased that I finally got some moissies for my collection with an a-band in recent years. I love so many gemstones and the diamond simulants are an easy choice for some things.
Here are three stacked together (L-R: diamonds, moissies, CZs).
Post # 4
That’s a great shot ty for sharing 🙂
Post # 5
Cool! Thanks for taking the time and sharing with us! You’re the best!!
Post # 6
The 3.5 round is going to another Bee for setting, my 4ct will be set next in a completely new set, and my 5.75ct pear is currently being set and new pics will come in about 3 weeks. I’ll post everything here 🙂
The pear is going in this:
The Round(s) coming are going in this
Post # 7
so many questions… I don’t really follow the rings boards… hearing about this for the first time.
Post # 8
Great info! I’d love to know more about the simulant that you’ve discovered, could you post or PM the web address?
Post # 9
Sounds very much like an Asha (cz with carbon coating).
Post # 10
I just wanted to ask some questions. Maybe you have a moment?
1) I was on the cc lab website and I only saw round stones starting at 1 ct. Do you know if they have other cuts and sizes? (only found a .75 through the Bjiou Paris dealer they work with) Other than that, basically nothing…
2) When you google crystal carbon labs other companies come up and I am confused if these are the same lab process stones you speak so highly of? Do you know if those stones are the same quality?
3) How do your stones hold up to scratching? They are apparently an 8.8 scale, so I suppose this is quite good. I don’t own any jewelry with this (or harder) hardness scale, so I have absolutely no idea..
Thank you in advance and let me know if these are dumb questions!
Post # 11
I asked the owner the exact same question, he stated there was no coating. Now as far as what asha is made of chemically, it could be a similar cocktail, I don’t know. I didn’t get an answer from them for comparison sake.
This is his ebay store [its how I originally stumbled on it]
there is no such thing as a dumb question-it’s all about sharing knowledge!
1. yes he carries larger than 1ct sizes in his ebay store. It seems to be a very weird mix of sizes and cuts though-I haven’t seen or checked his full inventory though.
2. anything man made is created in a lab-so let’s clarify that first. cc labs has their own website though. I also know he supplies jewelry chains. He was leary of all my questions at first, thinking I was a retailer instead of an individual. I only did the chemical makeup comparison. I did see on the website there was a lifetime warranty on discoloration and scratching. I guess if I have the stone long enough I’ll find out right? Im very hard on my rings. Also-this is a new stone to me, I don’t know much more than the research above.
3. I will let you know when I’ve owned it a few months 🙂
Post # 12
I am tempted to get a small one just to take to the GIA GG I have dealt with locally…
Post # 13
I would be very interested in hearing what they have to say!
Post # 14
do it, I love to see what they say.
Post # 15
- Wedding: May 2014 - victoria educational gardens
I’ve seen these on ebay before! I’m following