Post # 1
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So I was watching the 16 and Pregnant reunion special/finale last night and after it aired, another 16 and Pregnant special came on called “No Easy Decision”. Markai, one of the girls from the most recent season, found out that she and her Boyfriend or Best Friend were pregnant again (she missed her appointment for her Depo shot) and ultimately decided that it was best for them and their family to have an abortion. It showed the difficulties she had making the decision and in the aftermath of the procedure. They also interviewed two other girls who had chosen to have abortions.
I was glad to see MTV tackle this issue. Through three seasons we’ve seen a bunch of girls keep their babies and a couple choose adoption but they’ve never really shown someone even halfway consider abortion. I honestly think Markai was brave to share her story.
One thing that surprised me during the episode though was a comment made by Dr. Drew. He indicated that 1 in 3 American women will have an abortion during their lifetime. This number seemed really high to me as I don’t have anyone close to me who has ever had an abortion (I heard through the grapewine way back in HS of a couple girls who supposedly did but I don’t know if it was true).
Does this statistic seem high to anyone else? If you’re willing to share, have you ever had an abortion (we can see if the Bee is 1 in 3)? Did you see the 16 and Pregnant special and, if so, what did you think?
ETA: I’ve added a poll so that people can share anonymously if they wish.
Post # 3
You should add a poll to this so that members can remain anonymous if they so choose. That number does not seem high to me actually.I didnt see the 16 and pregnant special but based on what you say Im glad they touched on abortion as well. Thats the odd thing – 16 and pregnant makes it seem like your only 2 options are having the baby or giving it up for adoption. It also glorifies being a teen mom IMO because the teen moms on the show are now famous and all over the media – their lives dont even seem THAT difficult. Im sure they are very difficult but they arent portrayed that way all the time. What a brave girl for sharing her story. I think more people should share their stories because it will help other girls and women have an informed choice if they are thinking about all of their options.
Post # 4
Here are some really interesting statistics regarding abortions, such as ethnicity, age, contraception use, etc.
Edit: it is important to also remember that reproductive years are from about 15-45 (give or take a few years). It’s not just teenagers who have abortions.
Post # 6
I love these series on MTV. I’ve heard that the teen pregnancy rate is now down for the first time in part because of these types of shows. I work in women’s healthcare and I see a lot of teen pregnancy. I am also privy to very personal and private information. In my area, it would be my estimate that the statistic is closer to 1 in 5 or so will have an elective abortion. I do not and cannot judge.
Post # 7
I saw an episode yesterday on 16 and pregnant about a girl in Texas. She was considering abortion and her mother was very supportive. I don’t think they make it seem as if there are only two options. And I don’t think there was anything glorifying about the episode I saw yesterday. It was heartbreaking. The poor girl wanted to go to college, had to graduate early from HS, had disappointed her family….it was so sad.
Post # 8
When I was a teen I knew two girls that had 4 or 5 abortions, EACH. Like it was a form of brith control or something. Those were the only people I’ve personally known that got one (that told me, anyways) so that number seems REALLY high to me.
It’s definitely interesting!
Post # 9
Going through friends/family members in my head that statistic seems right on target actually! I didn’t watch the special, but it seems like a good show to go along with the 16 and pregnant series (which is one of my guilty pleasures).
You have to remember, if you aren’t someone who is openly pro-choice, if someone you know had an abortion they probably wouldn’t tell you since the subject is SO personal and still quite taboo. But then for someone like me, who is actively pro-choice, I went to the clinic with more then one person throughout college because they knew (based off of my views on the subject) that I would be there to support them 100% and not judge them. If you’re indifferent to the subject (or just not vocal about it) you probably still won’t hear about it much, because like I said, it’s pretty taboo still!
Post # 10
I tend to think the figure is probably fairly accurate if its based on actual data – although I think it will change with increased availability/acceptance of contraception.
I think abortion is still very taboo in our society, and so I think its hard to guess at stats based on personal “knowledge” of friends/family, as many women won’t talk about it either way.
Post # 11
I have only known a couple of people who have had abortions. I do think that more people I know probably have had them, but who wants to go around discussing it? It is such a polarizing issue that I can understand people being private about it.
Post # 12
EvaBoston had mentioned that it’s not only teenage girls who have abortions. I would also like to point out that all kinds of woman have them for multiple reasons. Some woman terminate because of birth defects, married woman who had an oopsie pregnancy, cancer patients who find out their pregnant and dont’ want to put their treatment on hold, college students, etc.
The stat is probably accurate or maybe even higher. Think about all of the ones you heard about, there are so many woman who never even discuss it because they know that society will judge them regardless what there reasons are.
Post # 13
That does seem really high to me, actually…but I think i t’s important to remember, as a PP said, that it’s not just teenagers who get pregnant accidentally…I only really know women in my age group right now, so who knows–maybe the rate of abortion goes up as you get older.
On 16 & Pregnant, it usually seems like the parents are the ones who would be open to abortion, but the girl is like, “I just can’t do that”, which is interesting, considering most of my friends/the girls I know would have gotten an abortion right away if they found out they were pregnant at 16. But maybe because most abortions would have to h appen fairly early in the pregnancy, it isn’t conducive to being on the show?
Post # 14
Actually when you think of that number at a glance it does seem quite high but I remember back in high school I can count off around 10 girls that I KNOW of that had an abortion. I also know that alot of woman/girls will keep that sort of thing a secret. So the number is not totally known.
I missed that episode. That does take strength for her to talk about that though. I do like seeing every side of a situation.
Post # 15
I personally know of two close friends and a cousin who have had abortions. I suspect the number is higher than most of us think, because most women who have them only tell those closest to them.
I’m a bit older than most of the Bees, and I think I may know a few more girls that had abortions in high school and college because having a child out of wedlock was far less acceptable twenty years ago than it is now. In four years of high school, I only know of one girl that actually had a baby…but have knew of quite a few rumored abortions (in addition to the two friends I knew for sure had one.)
Post # 16
@nona49: On the first season of 16 and pregnant they never discussed abortion. And throughout other 16 and pregnant episodes a lot of times the subject has never come up. Most likely because it wasnt an option for many of these people for whatever reason (beliefs, religion, money)
In addition, Im not saying 16 and pregnant glorifies teen pregnancy Im saying teen mom (the follow up to 16 and pregnant) portrays these girls who have support systems and whose parents are (for the most part) financially stable. With the exception of Amber and Gary. Im just saying that I think a lot of teen moms are WAY worse off than those on Teen Mom so it makes it look like it isnt the worst thing in the world. On top of that they get to be on TV, magazines, probably get money from the show – that could be appealing in the mind of a 16 yr old girl