(Closed) Advantages of purchasing a dog from a breeder over adoption?

posted 6 years ago in Pets
  • poll: My pet was:
    adopted from a shelter : (176 votes)
    62 %
    selected from a breeder : (106 votes)
    38 %
  • Post # 33
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    Buzzing Beekeeper
    • Wedding: August 2013 - Rocky Mountains USA

    I’m glad that 2/3 (so far) of us adopted our critters. I can certainly understand some people wanting specific rare breeds or show dogs or whatever, but I hope that a lot MORE people will always want to rescue animals already in need of a home. We wanted a Siamese kitten and a gray kitten and waited til we found them at shelters within a couple hours’ drive.

    Post # 34
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: March 2013

    4.5 years ago Darling Husband and I agreed we wanted a puppy. 1 we could train and raise on our own. I spent a few weeks checking shelters and websites for a boxer puppy. No luck. So we bought ours from a breeder in the newspaper. Best decision we ever made. Now I am ready for a friend for Chloe,  and Darling Husband and I are not seeing eye to eye. I would like to rescue anothef Boxer from the Boxer rescue. We can get 1 around a year old or so. He says no. He wants to go thru the puppy thing again. So until we agree we are not getting another one. I get wanting to train a puppy once, but we did it. It was fine for us and she was pretty easy to train. But we have a baby on the way I dont want a puppy too. An adopted dog from a shelter would be just fine for us now. We will see if I get my way this time. 

    Post # 36
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: May 2016

    The genetic testing and breeding for temperament were the biggest reasons why we chose a breeder, plus our dog is a pretty rare breed (Keeshond) that is incredibly difficult to find in rescues/shelters. We scoured our own and the surrounding states repeatedly before we simply decided that a breeder was going to have to be our option since no one had one waiting for a home.

    Plus, the previous dog we had before him was an English Springer Spaniel that we adopted and she ended up having Rage Syndrome that resulted in us having to put her down because she attacked my mother. We didn’t want to go through that again with our next dog, so we decided that a breeder who deliberately bred for temperament/genetics was the best choice for us. Would I adopt a dog again in the future? Sure, maybe. But for right now, the whole experience has put me off for awhile.

    Everyone is different and has their own reasons, nobody needs to get uppity or think they’re somehow better than others for their choices in pet selection. That’s just ridiculous.

    Post # 37
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    882 posts
    Busy bee

    @mrswestcoast:  

    We have two dogs: 

    Shelter Pup: 

    • Came at approximately 1 year old. 
    • Came with behavioral issues including separation anxiety and leash reactivity. 
    • It takes FOREVER to train her, even though she is wicked smart. There is just not the foundation there that there would have been if she had come to us at 8 weeks. She’s older than our lab who sleeps outside of the crate at night but I doubt she’ll ever be completely crate free. 
    • Money that we have saved on her ‘purchase’ price has been made up for in the fact that she has health problems (namely her teeth, which were not brushed from an early age) and the extra training we’ve gone through since her adoption.
    • LOVES people despite being an abuse case. 
    • We wouldn’t trade her for anything, but she certainly is a handful and an ongoing project.

    Breeder Pup: 

    • Bought from a reputable breeder. This includes that all parents, grandparents, and great grand parents were titled in their area of expertise (in this case, Field Champions and Master/Senior Hunters). They also have all been health checked by the OHA, CERF, and registered with CHIC. We researched breeders for years, and the breeder we chose had a massive wait list and we put a deposit down well before the litter was even concieved. We met with the parents, and got a guaruntee of 24 months against hip and elbow displaysia. (So far, not a single puppy in his litter has any health issues and he’ll be two in July.)
    • We wanted a dog to train, title, and use as a therapy dog. At nearly two he has his Canine Good Citizen certificate, working on his therapy dog certificate, as well as agility and obedience titles. I needed a dog that would be high drive with me when I needed him to be, and mellow once we got home or into a hospital/school. You can certainly get this combination in a shelter, but I knew I wanted a dog I could shape from an early age and I wanted a breeder input on which dog would be the best fit for my goals. 
    • The puppies came socialized to just about everything. Different surfaces, different noises, different places. My lab is basically bombproof. We saw a camel once. He hates camels, but I don’t fault the breeder for not doing camel socialization. 
    • Potty trained in under two weeks (hasn’t had an accident in the house since he was 10 weeks old) and graduated at the top of his class in Puppy Obedience, Puppy 1st Grade, Adolescent Manners, and CGC. 

     

    I don’t fault people for going with breeders, as long as those breeders are reputable. All parents, grand parents, and great grand parents at the very least should be titled in their field of choice. It’s not enough to just have ‘champion’ lines. The puppy should also have three generations of completely health checked parents. The breeder should be more than willing to answer every ridiculous question about them you have, and you should feel a good flow of communication with them as they will be a resource for the rest of your lives. They should use outside studs as the best compliment for their dog is rarely the male that they just happen to have lying around. They shouldn’t charge more based on gender or color, and should often provide insight for which puppy will be the best fit for your family. 

    We’ll probably always have a rescue and a purebred. For reference, the black dog is the rescue and the brown dog is the purebred.

    And because I can’t resist — brown dog as a puppy. 

    Post # 38
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: June 2014

    We went with a breeder. We wanted a specific breed, and there were no adopatable ones in our area. We drove over four hours for our puppy and would have also done so for one from a shelter had the breed been available. 

    Post # 39
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: March 2014

    @mrswestcoast: There’s no both option in the poll!

    Our first dog (as a couple, not the first dog either of us ever had), Junebug, was adopted from a rescue, and all my previous dogs growing up were shelter dogs. I actually used to be a vet tech, and I also used to volunteer with a rescue in another state, fostering cats and working adoption booths, and also volunteered as a dog walker in the city shelter there. So… I am not at all opposed to adoption, and it has been the way I’ve obtained every pet until my most recent puppy… and here’s why.

    We love our first dog to pieces, she is a joy, but the process of adopting her was an absolute nightmare. The rescue was so rude to me the first time we communicated that we almost gave up on them entirely. And they were actually the first rescue to get back to us after several MONTHS of searching. We are highly responsible pet owners, DINK in our 30s, with excellent recent vet references and even references from the rescue group I used to volunteer with. Over and over we fell for puppies that would have fit well in to our family, and over and over we couldn’t even get someone on the phone to talk to about them for weeks, only to find when we finally tracked the group down at an event that they’d already been adopted before we even applied, or that they wouldn’t even consider us because we didn’t have a fenced yard (my fiance runs and I walk them daily and we take the dogs to the dog park for off-leash play several times a week; they’re definitely more active than most dogs that are simply let out in to the yard) or because he’s military. That’s what the rescue was so rude about the first time- when she heard my fiance was military, she launched in to a diatribe against the incompetence and evil of military families with pets, before asking a single thing about us or our actual documented history as pet owners. If i hadn’t been so damned determined to meet the puppy we eventually wound up adopting, I would have hung up on her- it was so offensive.

    Actually organizing the meetings to see her and meet the puppies was chaotic and stressful, and then the rescue group, which is fairly haphazardly organized, went back and forth several times on whether or not we could adopt her before we actually got her (ultimately the . It was a logistical and emotional rollercoaster and though I don’t regret doing what we had to to get her, it was not something we every wanted to go through again. And as far as I can tell, that was the best case scenario– the local shelter has a straightforward adoption process, but rarely has puppies (rescues pull them almost instantly) and none of the other rescues we pursued ever got back to us. 

    And then… we chose Junebug in large part because she appeared to be a rott/lab mix. Those are the two breeds we loved most, for temperment, size, and training characteristics- her mother was a large yellow lab the rescue found as a pregnant stray, but as a puppy Junebug looked EXACTLY like a rott. Perfect! We wanted a big, intelligent, eager-to-please dog that would also make a good visual deterrent to intruders since my fiance is gone so often for work. And she turned out to be all of those things… except big and a deterrent. She’s 30 sweet-natured little lbs. Which is fine, we adore her, but once she was full grown we realized we still didn’t have a big dog despite choosing as carefully as we could with the information available about a mutt.

    Two dogs is the most we want for the foreseeable future, and some training and a move coming up for my fiance’s career meant that the only time we would have the capacity for training another puppy was very specific and limited- we either had to get our second dog inside a limited window this winter, or not get another dog for several years. We wanted a big dog, and specifically the rottweiller I’ve been dreaming of for a decade for CERTAIN this time, because we wouldn’t be able to try again with a third dog if this one was also a surprise dainty girl… and we wanted a puppy both to train, and because especially going for a large breed, we needed to make sure it grew up socialized with little Junebug and our cat.

    Rather than scour the country for the needle in a haystack of a healthy rottweiler puppy from a rescue that would adopt to a currently-apartment-dwelling couple, hope that it was available inside the window we had for being able to make sure someone was home every two hours around the clock to potty train, and pray that they didn’t jerk us around the way the other rescues did, we found a reputable breeder. We went and saw her beautiful litter, checked the  pedigrees and parents’ clearances, answered the breeder’s questions to her satisfaction, gave her some money, and brought home the best little girl we could have imagined. It was virtually painless and I completely get now why sometimes people buy from breeders.

    We’ve since adopted a cat (from the same rescue Junebug came from; they were much nicer now that they’ve already decided we’re okay people) and I could certainly see adopting another dog in the future under different circumstances. But this time, for this dog, buying from a breeder worked out very well for us and I refuse to entertain guilt over the idea that everyone who wants a pet is obligated to obtain one only at the whims of often extremely zealous rescue groups.

    TL;DR version: Sometimes people want and/or need very specific things in a pet, and sometimes rescues are extremely difficult to work with.

    Post # 40
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: March 2014

    @beeintraining: The puppies came socialized to just about everything. Different surfaces, different noises, different places. My lab is basically bombproof. We saw a camel once. He hates camels, but I don’t fault the breeder for not doing camel socialization. 

    I died laughing. Also, +1 to everything.

    Post # 41
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    Worker bee
    • Wedding: June 2014

    @Bubblesmcgee:  that’s what pisses me off about some rescues… U could be the perfect person for an animal but so many rescues make it impossible for u to adopt.  I don’t like that some places make it mandatory to have a fence or live in a house.  I would have more luck adopting a child lol

    Post # 43
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    391 posts
    Helper bee
    • Wedding: July 2011

     

    First, I’ll start by saying 2 of our 3 dogs are mixed breeds, adopted from shelters. 

    We chose our GSD from a very reputable breeder. I wanted a pup that would be an excellent candidate for protection training and possibly schutzhund; knowing we would be having kids in the future, I wanted to make sure I was going to have one with the best possible temperament and be as safe and stable as possible around kids. Stability was one of the most important things to us when it comes to that type of work. He also comes from strong lines of excellent mind, health, hips and elbows. He is a great dog and is definitely worth every penny.

    For GSDs, we will consider going the breeder route in the future depending on our specific needs as with our first GSD. However, we will definitely continue to adopt/rescue as well, seeing as how we can’t have just one dog and we love a variety of other breeds, too. 🙂

     

    Post # 44
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: May 2016

    Here’s my baby saying HI! He is from a breeder. We had just moved to our new city and college and I wanted a puppy. We went to the local pet store and was amazed by how much they cost so I started looking for pomeranian puppies around us. I found a breeder about an hour a way and went to pick him up. That was the BEST decision I have ever made. 

    Post # 45
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: July 2014

    Our two dogs were one of each- one a purebred from a breeder and one a rescue.  Pros and cons to each.

    Purebred- was never in a shelter, and never had another owner. Prone to health issues, but the rescue was as well. 

    Rescue- his time in the shelter made him nervous and shaky.  He was constantly afraid of being abandoned, and needed 10 times more attention (that i didn’t mind giving). 

    The rescue was older when we got him, and presumably had been left there or somewhere by his former owner.  That can give a pet issues with abandonment and anxiety. 

    In my experience, rescues take more love and attention, as they have issues to overcome just to get back to where a pet from a breeder starts out. Sometimes you want easy (which is just as valid), and sometimes you want to help a downtrodden pet.

    Post # 46
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: August 2014

    For us, adopting from a breeder would have been much less expensive and much less of a horrible experience than what we experienced adopting from a rescue. We paid our $250 adoption fee that was to cover her spay and shots. Come to find out she had no shots, no wormer, nor heartworm tests done, and the vet the rescue used almost killed her and she required an additional and very expensive surgery. She had the worst case of worms our vet had seen, and after taking her to the vet and getting her all fixed up I shared our experience with that rescue and their vet and the girl that runs the rescue started harrassing us and threatening us. I had to get the police involved and hire an attorney to get her off our backs. And even had to leave our home to get away from her. It was insanity. Ive never experienced anything like that before! I still believe in adopting, but next time we do I will probably go to a humane society where they are held to a higher standard than a private rescue. We could have paid $1500 towards a healthy puppy with no drama from the breeder, instead of for a sick puppy from this horrible woman. I wouldnt trade my puppy for the world though.She came to us for a reason. If I hadnt listened to my gut and taken her to a different vet she wouldnt have made it. 

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