(Closed) Advantages of purchasing a dog from a breeder over adoption?

posted 6 years ago in Pets
  • poll: My pet was:
    adopted from a shelter : (176 votes)
    62 %
    selected from a breeder : (106 votes)
    38 %
  • Post # 77
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    Busy Beekeeper
    • Wedding: September 2012

    @SoonToBeMrsT16:  @terpalum10:  +1

    Honestly, have one of each and our rescue was sort of an accident.

    We purchased our full english lab from a VERY reputable breeder. They’re very well known within the english lab world, and their puppies have also been used in several movies (although  the movie stuff didn’t happen until after we purchased ours – who is now almost 10). My Darling Husband researched for months to find the perfect breeder, and he spent a lot of time on the phone with  “breeders” that totally turned him off.

    Our reasoning for going with a puppy from a breeder was that temperment was very important to us. We knew for certain we wanted a lab, and particularly of the english vareity. We wanted a dog that is a good family dog and great with everyone that had a laid back personality. The American Field Lab is a very hyper and high strung breed and that was NOT soemthing we wanted. A dog that loves the water is a must, because much of our free time is spent on our boat and at the beach. Our dog is the kindest, gentlest dog ever. She is good with everyone, especially kids and lets them climb all over her. My niece and nephew dress her up and litterally walk her all over my house.

    The argument that pure bred dogs have more health problems is one I hear a lot – but our pure english lab has no health problems while all our friends with resues have tons of them. No two breeders are the same and like others posted, a true breeder isn’t in it for the money but because of their love for the breed. It’s like any profession in the world – you’ve got your true professionals and your weekend warriors. I’m a wedding photographer that works very hard at what I do with years of expereince, and I see some pretty horrible stuff posted here on the bee (and IRL) from people’s “professional photographers” – ANYONE can all themsevles a professional at their trade but it doesn’t mean they are. 

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    FWIW, we also have a rescue, but we didn’t seek her out. She kept showing up along with another dog at our house. They constantly lived tied to a tree in their owners yard. After months of constantly taking them to the SPCA, they finally relinquished the female but kept the male. The SPCA called us and we went and adopted her. She’s a VERY sweet dog and super lovable, but she is certainly not without problems (that we’ve never had with our other dog).

    While she is terribly sweet, snuggly, and loveable – the growling is a huge issue. She’s gotten leaps and bounds better since we’ve had her but for several months she growled at everything she felt was getting into her space. It wasn’t her fault, but just something she was used to doing to fend off whatever was coming near her while tied to a tree. She is also a digger, which we’re working on. She’s 3 and has already had two litters before we adopted her with very minimal health care. We have no clue what sort of problems we’ll encounter health wise in the future with her. While she came from a house with kids, she lived tied to a tree. I can only hope that when we start TTC here in the future that she will be almost over her issues. 

    All that being said, and while I love her very much, any future dogs will come from our old breeder. There will always be a sitma that those who purchase from a breeder are yuppies and that those with shelter dogs are far superior. Personally, it’s non of my business how and where you get your dog. Nor is it my business how and where you get your child. For the sake of the argument – we could all argue that it’s irrisponsible for anyone to have children when there are thousands of children needing adoption! 

    Post # 78
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: August 2010

    Here is my craigslist puppy, renegade. His family found out the dog was pregnant when they took her in to get spayed, and just wanted to find good

    Homes for the pups. The next pic is our shelter puppy, nala. Both are lab mixes. Shelter pup cost lots more than cl pup did. We got both dogs at about seven weeks.

    Post # 79
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    Blushing bee
    • Wedding: November 2013

    @Fluffmallow:  we searched high & low, finally found what we wanted & were told that WE were not acceptable to adopt her. I think that’s also a huge issue that a lot of pro-adoption fanatics overlook. Our pooches came from the same breeder, they did a home visit & found us acceptable, we signed contracts on both dogs to have them neutered/spayed by a certain age. Not all breeders are bad people just lpoking to make a buck. In fact, most don’t make all that much on their puppies. 

    Post # 80
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: May 2016

    @SoonToBeMrsT16:  +1 she also said that they haven’t found the right one for them yet? She made it seem that people should just go in to the shelter and get the first dog they see instead of getting one from a breeder. And she said why can’t you just find another breed? Why doesn’t she find another breed to adopt if they haven’t found the right one yet? 

    Post # 81
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: November 2014

    @mrswestcoast:  I am completely against purchasing from a breeder v. adoption for many, many reasons.  I’ve had nothing but adopted (or found!) pets and they’ve all been absolutely wonderful. 

    IMO, a pet is like another family member or person.  It’s a living thing.  You don’t have the option to select or customize your child, why would you your pet?  And regardless of how your child is, you love them all the same, right?  I only think it’s justifiable if you have allergies and need a dog that’s hypoallergenic like many breeds today are.   

    That said…here’s a pic of my little parking lot kitten!  We didn’t even adopt her, she was found wandering a lot at about 6 weeks old. 

    Post # 82
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: August 2014

    I actually adopted a dog when I was younger that had been a breeding dog. She was a purebred yorkshire terrier, papers and all. She was about 3 when I got her, and the lady was selling her on the side of the road. She looked pathetic and the woman said she couldnt breed her anymore so she was selling her. I think I gave her like $300 for her, because I just couldnt leave her for someone else to buy and try to breed anymore. We got her fixed and vetted, and she was a wonderful dog. Unfortunately,  she wasnt well cared for while she was with that woman. She was terrified of large men, and very very malnourished. They just bred her and didnt provide her with enough care for her body to properly carry puppies and recover. She has numerous health issues, and actually lost all of her teeth years ago because they were just rotting out of her mouth when we got her. Those are the ‘backyard breeders’ I would be wary about. I have known several people to go to a breeder and pay a very small fee and get a wonderful pet that was loved and cared for, and whose parents were family pets, not just puppy machines. Unfortunately people see dog breeding as an easy way to make some cash with no real effort on their part, but that isnt how it works. Caring for an animal, especially a pregnant animal and several babies, is hard work, and requires a lot of attention and heart. You can always tell if a breeder cares for the breed, its just in the way they talk about their pets. 

    In Hawaii, they have puppy swap meets. Yes, you read that right. Its exactly what you think it is too. People set up with a bunch of tables and adorable puppies in kennels and charge thousands of dollars for sick puppies. Its disgusting, but people keep buying them, so they keep breeding them. They charge anywhere from $1000- $5000 for a puppy, and people thing that they are paying for an awesome breed and that their puppy has been well cared for, but many of the puppies require a lifetime of care or medication, or are so severly ill that they dont make it. Parvo is a big thing here, and people dont know that, so by the time they figure it out it is already too late. 

    I think both adopting and buying from a breeder can be great! As long as you are being responsible, the only thing that matters is that an animal is getting a wonderful home. =)

    Post # 83
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    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: July 2013 - UK

    @BurlapnLace:  She is so cute!

    For me, it was important for my new kitten to be a pedigree though… for the sake of my existing pets. Explanation below.

    Background: I originally had a moggie, and two cats whom I rescued as feral strays from rural Malaysia. In that part of Malaysia, they also keep leopard cats as pets, and the strays are often hybrid cats, because the species interbreed. The resulting hybrid cats have slightly different behaviours to our domestic cats, and live in intimate family groups. My two ex-ferals exhibited this type of social, wildcat bahaviour.

    One of the pair of ex-ferals went missing in November. Remaining ex-feral was completely bereft. He needed a friend… it had to be a kitten because he can be aggressive to adult cats, but never kittens… and we thought that by going with a bengal (who are also leopard cat hybrids) we would have the best chance of finding him a friend who had similar social and emotional needs.

    It has worked reasonably well. The kitten stopped the worst of his howling and inappropriate urination. The pair are not as close as the original pair of Malaysian cats… but then… very few cats are. The only way I could get a pair that close again would be, I suspect, to get more Malaysian hybrid cats! Actually, I wouldn’t rule it out completely. They are remarkable pets.

    Anyway, that’s why new kitten is a pedigree.

    PS I should also say that, like I said in my last post, only around 10% of British cats are pedigree, so finding a bengal shelter kitten would have been nigh on impossible. When getting a pedigree, I also wanted them health checked to make sure they weren’t too inbred, so I was paying for that as well. Ironically though, it’s my remaining ex-feral who has the most health problems… probably due to inbreeding in the cat colony he was originally from!

    Post # 84
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    Busy bee

    @mrswestcoast:  Our Alaskan malamute puppy will be coming from a breeder in about 4 weeks. We had looked on the malamute adoption website, but the dogs available were older. The youngest one they had was 4 years old. The breed is difficult, they are very headstrong and independent thinkers, so training them is not easy. SO’s last malamute he got for free from a guy who had no idea how to handle him. The dog was a little over a year old, and heading into ‘teenage’ phase, so he was a challenge – especially because he had very little training and wasn’t house broken. Also, it’s very hard to know what a dog has been through before you adopt them. SO’s dog was terrified of water. We suspect he was punished by being sprayed with water. When I met the dog at 9 years old, he was just gorgeous. He had the most beautiful temperament I’ve ever seen in a dog. We had to get him put to sleep about a year after I met SO – there was something wrong with his neck. He was missing the cushioning between his neck bones, and his neck would lock up and he would howl/scream the worst possible sound a dog could make. It was torture for him and for us. We don’t know if this was a genetic issue, or whether he was abused while he was growing, or whether it was an age thing. The vet had no answers either. It broke our hearts. 

    The breed has a very strong prey drive, which is a concern with an older dog who hasn’t grown up with smaller dogs. My sister has a smaller dog and we’d like them to grow up together – if we got an adult malamute, forget it. The only way you can be somewhat assured that the dog won’t attack every other dog it sees is if you have a chance to socialise it as a puppy. This is important to us. When SO got his dog, he also had a cat. The cat had to stay indoors while the dog was outside, to protect the cat. Had the dog have been a puppy when he got him, it’s quite possible they could have lived in harmony.

    Another plus in the breeder’s favour is that they perform health checks on the parent dogs, so the risk of the puppy having a devastating genetic disorder is minimised. There is no guarantee that the dogs on the malamute rescue won’t end up with something terrible that will shorten their life or see them suffering. They also note what issues the dogs have – like noise or digging or frequent escaping. Old habits are hard to break, and we feel that training will be much easier (although still challenging) as a pup than trying to retrain an adult dog.

    If we weren’t looking at such a difficult breed, we would adopt. 

    Post # 85
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: May 2014

    Both of my cats are rescues.

    One was adopted from a shelter by a roommate, and I adopted him from her when I moved out (she loved him, but she was moving soon, and the cat & I had really bonded).

    One was rescued off the streets as a kitten by a friend of mine and I adopted him from him since he couldn’t keep him.

    My fiance adopted his dog from the shelter and all 70 lbs of her have made thier way into my heart.

     

    When I grew up, my parents’ had adopted a string of dogs from friends and they all ended up being so poorly trained and either were aggressive towards one of us kids, or distempered. So when it came time to get new dogs, my parents went with a breeder, and my father showed them in field trials before neutering them and continuing to hunt with them. Love those two dogs!

    Post # 86
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: January 2013 - Harbourfront Grand Hall

    @mrswestcoast:  The only advantage I can think of is that you know the history of your dog if you get it from a breeder.

    Here’s our rescue Golden:

    Post # 87
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    @mrswestcoast:  we REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to adopt. badly. we searched all the shelters in our area, and we couldn’t find a suitable dog. we were in college, and living in an apartment – thus, limited funds and limited space. all the dogs we found at shelters in our area were either a) pit bulls b) sick with serious illnesses like heart worm or mange or c) big dogs. 🙁 we felt so bad, i wanted to adopt so much.

    we went with breeder for that reason.

    obligatory photo of my doge:

    Post # 88
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: February 2015

    @ksn1219:  I don’t have breed specifics. I can’t adopt a short haired dog because I’m allergic to them so I have to find a medium to long haired dog that I’m not allergic to. I also have weight restrictions at my apartment so it can’t be over 30 pounds and I want a dog around my pup’s age who is 3 1/2…so between 1 & 4. I couldn’t care less what breed it is! As long as I’m not allergic lol

    I don’t care if it’s 1 or 4, 5 lbs or 30 lbs, boy or girl. I think people can click with a dog when they walk in a shelter and see it. And it saves a life. These dogs would be KILLED if no one rescued them. So yea, I’m an advocate for rescue. If no one buys the breeder’s dog, they stop breeding. The dogs aren’t killed.

    Post # 89
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: February 2015

    @terpalum10:  that’s extremely interesting to me! I had no idea there are breeders out there who actually take a loss for breeding. That’s great that they care so much. Some breeds have been bred into so much sickness, it’s awful.

    Post # 90
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: December 2009

     Personally, I have always adopted from rescue shelters.  I will say that there is a very specific breed of dog I hope to have someday.  I am crossing my fingers that one day I will get VERY lucky and find this dog at a shelter, but chances are I won’t.

    Post # 91
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    Sugar bee

    We got our current dog from someone on Craigslist – both Darling Husband and I have allergies and it was important that we got a poodle or poodle mix to ensure we wouldnt be allergic.  I feel like with rescues or pounds sometimes they dont have any information at all on a dog and tbe breed.  Our previous dog my parents purchased from someone, she was a birthday gift to me.

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