(Closed) Advice? Do I pay my friend? Pro photogs help

posted 5 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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3947 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

Is it just for engagement pictures?  I think most pro photographers will advise you NOT to hire her for your wedding with no experience.

But with that said, if she’s just taking your engagement pictures I would ask her what her rate is.  If she says it’s free, then get her a nice gift (nice bottle of wine, movie theatre gift card, etc.).

Post # 5
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: October 2011

@bbsoon2be:   Oh, okay. Are you already scheduled for your other engagement shoot? And does she know that?  If she does, I would assume she’s not planning on charging you.

Post # 7
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1158 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

I would just ask her what her rates are…

Post # 8
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983 posts
Busy bee

I would just say to her that you already have someone else in mind, even if you don’t, and say thanks for the offer.  You don’t want to hire a friend to shoot engagement and wedding photos. 

I’m a pro wedding photographer. I shoot my engagements for free with packages.  It gives me a chance to get to know my b&g’s.  And a chance for them to practice poses and just to have fun.  Kinda benefits both b&g and photogs for the big day. 

You want to hire someone professional. Someone that knows when to click that button and know what moment(s) to capture that mean something to the b&g.  You need to hire someone that knows their equipment, has expensive equipment and who knows how to use that equipment in any type of lighting changes.  Light changes constantly and they have to know how to work with that. 

 

ETA:  i started out portfolio building. Did shoots for free…clients just purchased prints…that’s how I made my cash for saving for equipment. You can just let her go with it and have fun…..even if she is just building her portfolio. If that’s the case, she shouldn’t be charging you anything and you shouldn’t have to tip her. You are just doing her a favor.  Almost every photographer has been in that position when they started out.  It’s nice to help her out to build her portfolio…but I wouldn’t “pay” her for it.  Save the money for the pros.
 

Post # 9
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1157 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: August 2012

@bbsoon2be:  Does she have a website with rates right now? How much does she normally charge? If she hasn’t discussed fees, and is *asking* you to pose for her portfolio, she probably is not expecting to be paid. You and your Fiance are acting as her models; instead of hiring paid models she is paying you in trade (your faces in exchange for her work). She may hope to sell you something after the shoot (like a guest signing book, etc.). And she may be expecting you to pay for prints/digital files.

Most pro photographers (if they are actually serious about the “pro” part), will have their final prices set while they are portfolio-building, and charge a percentage of those final prices based on their experience level. Or charge nothing for a set amount of time. For example, if she will eventually charge $400 for an engagement shoot, she might charge you $200 right now.

I would just ask her to clarify the situation. If it is a free shoot, and you want to tip, the amount depends entirely on the going rates for engagement shoots in your area. If she gives you free, high-quality photos (with the digital files), I think any amount above $50 would be really nice. 

Post # 11
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790 posts
Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2014

Its not free, its trade. She gets pictures for her portfolio and you give your time/get photos. You are paying her with your time. The barter system. Your time is worth something just like hers.

If shes giving you print resolution (I do on trades, I just limit them to 3 and you have to buy prints for the rest) if not you’ll be buying prints so hook her up and buy some, thats your “tip”. 🙂

If you get the full res to print… Give her at least $50. Maybe not cash(if you want to do cash) but some gift cards like a food place, gas card, camera store.

 
To add if shes so new she may not have rates yet. Its not a wing it thing. You develop your skills enough to even charge and she has to figure her cost of doing business. Its not lets pick a price because someone else charges this price. We set our price according to what it costs to run our business ans everyone is diffrent. She might not be in that position yet.

 

 

 

Post # 13
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

If she’s smart she is going to have you sign a release of some sort so she can legitimately use the work for promotion. If she isn’t – she should.  Since she approached you, there should be no expectation on her part for payment.  If you like the photos by prints from her at her normal rate.

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