(Closed) Affording a child…or why not just live off the government?

posted 9 years ago in Parenting
Post # 226
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2009

@teaadntoast:  Don’t faint!  I’ll get the smelling salts!

Post # 227
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

@abbyful: lol because you know how easy it is to just stop taking drugs eh?

Oh, and the drug test thing is stupid. Do you know how easy it is to pass a piss drug test? (the cheapest option)

Post # 228
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Bee Keeper

@Miss Tattoo: Obviously I’m not CaitMarae but I can offer some experience there. I worked as a temp for a while and both the drug test and background check came out of my paycheck (for more than one agency). I was placed at my current job by an agency and they used my drug test and background check from the agency I was with when I was hired as a permanent employee, so I’m unsure my current company’s policy.

Post # 229
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

@Aure: I would be pissed if a company tried to take a drug test out of my paycheck. I didn’t ask to be tested. They made the decision to require drug testing, so the company should be held responsible for it.

Post # 230
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2011

Mrs. DG I don’t feel I deserve aid, but I am already paying for my health insurance, why should I be paying a copay. And why should ANYONE receive money for waiting to see a doctor. Also, I am very fortunate to belong to a union, otherwise I would not be able to afford to go to the dentist. And a new pair of glasses every year?  I can’t swing that, I wear them for at least 2.  I’m not saying they don’t deserve healthcare but it shouldn’t be profitable for them, and I deserve it too, and it should be affordable for me.

@Cash000 They can have healthcare, but they can’t have it without a copay. And they certainly should not be offered money to wait for it.

Post # 231
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@Miss Tattoo: When you’ve been out of work for 2 years, you’re about to default on your loans and are willing to work over 80 hours a week for a company that breaks tons of employment laws just to have a tiny bit of minimum wage income you’ll agree to anything.

Edit: I’m one of those that was too proud to file for unemployment, in case you were wondering.

Post # 233
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

there’s a HUGE difference between drug addicts who WANT help to get off drugs and drug addicts who WANT help to maintain their addiction. my step sister played that card so many times, so until you are IN that situation with a family member or loved one, you really can’t speak of it. i have watched the SYSTEM FAIL and continue to FAIL year after year. 5 year cap? i think not. drug addicts (like dear step-sister) have found the red tape there….they OD purposely to collect SSI benefits – FOR LIFE! Orrrrrr…they just keep popping out the kiddies to keep getting that government handout.

Post # 234
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2009

@msgraphics: Maybe I’m missing something, but how in the world is getting healthcare profiting those on Medicaid?  Seriously, I’m a physician and take care of primarily Medicaid patients and I’ve never heard that one!

And I’m a big believer that your healthcare should be free too… but right now you have insurance, which is designed to cover the things you can’t afford.  Your co-pay and premiums are so high because insurance companies make somewhere between 10 and 30% profit, while Medicaid/Medicare has only about 5% overhead.

Anyway, I’m not trying to sidetrack the thread… just want to address some misconceptions.

Post # 235
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Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2009

@Mrs. Spring: I blame my 4th grade religion class.  “Blessed are the poor…” and all of that!

Post # 236
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: May 2009

@Mrs. DG:  Bwahahaha!  Ok, freaking Catholic Socialist Hippies!  That’s even worse, DG.

Post # 237
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2011

I’m not saying that it’s easy to get off drugs (or that all drug users were on welfare, please don’t put words in my mouth), or to immediately cut their benefits.

But if they are getting money from the government they should be looking to better themselves. You can’t collect unemployment without proof you are trying to find a job, it’s the same principle. Yes, they could cheat, but just about anything can be cheated on. And use a test that’s harder to cheat, my last 2 jobs have been mouth-swab tests for the hiring drug screening.

Even if they COULD get a job which would help them get off welfare, if they are on drugs it would prevent them from doing so. So at a minimum they should be required to attend counseling and get-clean support groups. There are many of these groups out there that are free to attend.

Post # 238
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

@abbyful: thank you for your common sense. it’s lacking in this thread 🙂

Post # 239
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: April 2010

@Mrs. Spring:  Atheist Socialist Hippie, please!

 

Basically, I’m Karl Marx with Ladyparts. 

Post # 240
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Honey Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

@abbyful: I absolutely agree with your last post.

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