(Closed) Toddler Snatched by Alligator at Disney Resort

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Post # 151
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: February 1997

There are warning signs almost everywhere else in FL. It would not take too much signage to warn people of alligators. And putting a white sandy beach on a man-made lagoon that people weren’t supposed to be too near is just courting danger, IMO. A decorative, but rocky edge keeps people out of the water. It might be beautiful, but it conveys that it isn’t the place to take a leisurely walk on the beach. Virtually every other resort in FL that has fresh water has signs warning of gators. Disney did not because they thought it would impact their image.That’s inexcusable.

Post # 152
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2017

echomomm:  I actually do like the idea of a rocky edge, I think DIsney could do a good job at making it look beautiful yet functional. They’ll still have a job ahead of them to stop the guests from feeding the alligators though.

Post # 153
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Sugar bee

As amother I am just going to say this:

No way would my 2 1/2 yr. old son be out playing @ 9 in the evening.

Post # 154
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  • Wedding: September 2013

voovoo:  yup. There was an article posted by ABC news and people were commenting on it saying that the reason this is such a big deal is bc he died and was white, while the gorilla incident, they were black and didnt die. I dont believe it was a race thing, I think the alligator was a horibble freak and tragic accident and the gorilla incident was a child who didnt listen. He didnt listen to his parents or any of the strangers that tried to stop him. 

In both situations, I blame the property.

1) it should never bee that easy for a kid to fall into a gorilla pit!! That zoo is asking for trouble. 

2) Disney failed to warn. Simple as that. Having a no swimming sign is not a warning of alligators. That family is from Nebraska, and would not be expected to know of the huge population of alligators in FL. We cant assume that everyone knows this. 

This family is going through something so tragic, so horrific, and look at all these people judging. Telling them they are stupid for letting their little boy dip his feet in the water. People today lack serious compassion. Put yourselves in their shoes, and just try to imagine for one second whst they are feeling. Its impossible.

I know that when I heard that news, I went home and hugged my daughter, tearfully, bc just the thought of something like happening makes my heart literally ache. 

Personally, in FL, i would never go in merky waters bc I spent my summers in FL, so I have a fear of alligators. And when I go to the beach I don’t go past my knees. I have a fear of whats in the water. 

What has happened to these parents is a horrible thing. And as a society we need t take a step back, put ourselves in that parents footstepss and have some serious compassion and understanding. Mistakes are made, kids dont listen sometimes, and tragic accidents happen. So instead of us sitting on our computers telling them how they failed, we should come together and support them. Bc what these parents are going through is awful. And now that we have social media, its even harder! 

Post # 155
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  • Wedding: September 2013

arosebyanyothername:  but they were at a movie, it was a family traveling and they were playing a movie on the beach. The son probably got bored, as I imagine having a 2 1/2 year old sit still for a movie is hard. And maybe they thought, eh we are on vscation, who cares if its 9pm. 

Post # 156
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Daizy914:  In all the articles that I read and even watching the video, I never realized that the kid from the gorilla incident was black. I can imagine a lot of other people are in the same boat. These are completely different situations where one kid was ok and the other is dead. We’re also dealing with different animals. People tend to care more that a gorilla was killed than some alligators. I can’t believe that some people have chosen to make this about race.

(FWIW I know that media coverage is biased when it comes to reporting on missing children, for instance. I just don’t think that bias is present here.)

Post # 157
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: February 2015

SithLady:  I agree. I didn’t even know the race of the child in the gorilla incident initially. When I found out, my opinion didn’t change. I am black, and still argued against it being a race issue, as several people on FB debated that it was. The two incidents aren’t comparable in my opinion. In the zoo incident, you have the added upset regarding animals being caged by humans. The alligator was in its natural habitat (the conjoined lake originally, but traveled over to the lagoon). Also, alligators are eaten by some people, some wear gator shoes, etc… So the outcry of alligators being killed is not going to be comparable to an endangered species. It is what it is. I don’t agree with the killing of 5 alligators to “avenge” the child’s death (Basically that’s what it is because what difference will it make? It’s not like that specific alligator thought hmm let me eat a toddler today. All alligators have the potential to do what was done in this case. So should all of them be killed? No), but I actually shed a few tears when Harambe was killed.

Post # 158
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2017

Daizy914:  The movie wasn’t on the beach, it was at a different location on site away from the water. Also, the movie had been over for two hours at this point. You can find all the facts in the CNN articles.

Post # 159
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  • Wedding: September 2013

SithLady:  i agree. 

 

Post # 160
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Busy bee

I don’t know where people are getting some of these facts from that aren’t accurate. Probably from reading less credible sources. Here are the facts: 

-They were out at 9:00-9:30 (Which is still way too late for a 2 year old, especially to be in the water). 

-The father said he ran into the water to save his child, which means he wasn’t physically in the water with him (Bad parenting, sorry. Your 2 year old should NOT be in the water by himself). 

-Family said the child was in a foot of water (Also bad parenting, that reaches up to a 2 year olds waiste). 

-There was a movie being shown earlier, but it was over and not close to the beach (I’ve been there multiple times, Disney does not hold movies right on the beach). 

-There was a ‘no swimming’ sign. No swimming is not open to interpretation, and anyone who thinks it is obviously contributes to the same problem the family had. No swimming means stay out of the water. Keep your hands in feed out. 

-Disney has gator signs everywhere, INCLUDING on this proporty, AND people are warned while staying there. They just didn’t have the exact sign right at that exact location, but it still said no swimming. 

This accident was horrible. And Disney will throw an insane amount of money at the parents because Disney is all about keeping their image. However, the parents are not justified if they tried to sue Disney. Because even if there WASN’T a gator, letting your 2 year old in a foot of water, at night, without a parent in the water with him still has a variety of issues that could occur. Like the fact that the area said there was too steep a drop off in the water and that child could have drowned. I feel for the parents. It’s awful. But their carelessness WAS what put their child in the way of danger.

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