(Closed) America what happened??

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Sugar bee
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mm18 :  “sure sure sure.  you are a freakin saint.  you see people, never notice their gender or race.

Right? Give me a damn break! I’m sorry and this may not be PC but this is sh*t only white people say. People like the above poster can spew this crap because they arent faced with racial discrimination… they don’t have to see what doesn’t affect them personally…

Post # 286
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: April 2017 - City, State

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jannigirl :  You’re right. I’m feeling much more like being a dick and a lot less like being PC these days myself…

Post # 287
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Helper bee
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tomkitty :  which is why people like Kanye think they should run for president. I think this problem started when California elected a celebrity for govener..

Post # 288
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Buzzing bee

Many Americans were tired of the PC world we lived in, and the liberal way of life. They didn’t want Obamacare, kids who were 10 and thought they were trandgender to walk into a different bathroom or gay marriage. The country pushed too hard too quickly and there was a backlash. The old Rust Belt has been hit hard. I live in a county that has alot of poverty. Our jobs are gone. Those men are angry.

 

I understand why it happened. Im worried about Roe V Wade. 

 

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Blushing bee

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MeandMyLouboutins : Yep! I think we need to be mindful of our biases, because we have an obligation to be as kind and compassionate as we can to eachother.  Acknowledging that bias exists is the first step.  If you don’t acknowledge it, you can’t be compassionate. 

Post # 290
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Honey bee
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VictorianChick :  I am really not directing this at you, I promise. But, I truly am shocked by the idea that working towards acceptance of people for who they are and what they believe is being “pushed too hard too quickly”. I just honestly struggle-and I do know this-with people’s beliefs that their religious views (in regards to human rights such as same-sex marriage) should impede and interfere with others’ lives. 

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KatiePi :  Well, clearly there was a backlash to it. You may feel that way, but many voters didn’t. Many voters (white men from the Rust Belt) wanted jobs, were tired of being blamed for everything and were tired of being PC.

Just because you believe that way doesn’t mean others do.  I understand what you are saying, but that’s not how others felt. 

I didn’t vote for the lad, but I know others who did.

Post # 292
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Busy bee
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KatiePi :  It’s not only religious people that are against certain issues (transgender rights being an example) and Obamacare also has nothing to do with religion and millions of people hated that too. I understand what you mean, but the social changes that have been made in the last 10-15 years in particular are pretty drastic changes that are entirely new for human society. A lot of people are concerned the progress is happening too fast, before anyone has really stopped to think about how these changes will effect the future of society. I’m all for progress and acceptance of people, but wereally should think about what things should and should not be “accepted” by our society, since some things that never were are now opening discussion and just accepting everything just to be “nice” seems naive. And forcing people to accept something they don’t agree with, whether they are religious or not, isn’t the best thing either.

Post # 293
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Buzzing bee
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Yes, you may be accepting and loving and wonderful in your own life, but if you voted for that man, you voted for someone who has openly and repeatedly used hate speech against pretty much every minority…

Who is going to trial for raping a minor; who talks about women like they’re sex toys or furniture; whose VP thinks [electrocuting gay children is ok and will make them straight]; who has said he wants to turn back the clock on every LGBTQ rights law; who is actively promoted by the kkk, and whose election has entire communities literally afraid for their lives and their futures.

 

– Best quote I’ve read so far summing up Trump voters

Post # 294
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

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maymrswinks :  I don’t assume that all votes for Trump were made for religious purposes. That was one example. But, I really can’t agree with this idea that some things (transgender people or their rights for example) perhaps shouldn’t be accepted. I guess I’d like you to clarify what you mean about accepting certain things to be nice. Because I will always believe that no one person has the right to isolate, exclude, oppress, etc. another because that other person is…whatever. And also, I disagree that the human rights issues we face are new in any regard to humanity. 

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VictorianChick :  I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m merely admitting my own struggle with accepting and understanding this line of thinking. I will continue to hope for our future and acceptance of all people. And, I will teach my son that are people are worthy of respect and love, and that all people should be awarded basic human rights and equality. 

Post # 295
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: June 2015

Deeply embarrassed for the 47% of people who voted for him and – that is NOT the majority of Americans. 

And for all those gullible uneducated people who think DT is going to bring back some good jobs for them, bwahahahah. You will be in for a rude awakening when you are still whining and moaning that you dont have a job or it doesnt pay enough. 

And with the tax decreases he plans across the board, the rich will get richer and those poor red states will wonder why is the wealth gap even wider, why?!!! 

Regarding some women defending DT’s sexist nasty comments and say they or other women they know say disgusting sexual things about men or worse, I would say you are classless and hang out with other classless trashy women. I am glad I dont know you as I would likely have to listen to you complain about your SO treating you like crap, cheating, or not having enough money for your greed

Post # 296
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

Let’s drop the charade that “America voted for change” the House of Representatives has a 14% approval rating…did Americans vote for change in the House? NO. 6 of the 431 seats turned over <1% How about the Senate? 2 seats flipped.

Post # 297
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Sugar bee
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leonatigra :  whether or not you “bought into the racial stereotyping” it actually WAS as you put it “black or white”

Post # 298
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Busy bee
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KatiePi :  Don’t want to totally derail the thread to answer your question but I totally wanna answer. Dr. Jordan Peterson of the University of Toronto talks about the types of things I am referring to. You can YouTube his lectures.

Post # 299
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VictorianChick :  Let’s call this what it is: whiteness preserving whiteness.

I am white myself and I am ashamed to admit this. It all comes down to this:

When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

This isn’t about moving too quickly, too fast. It’s about the majority white population that is conservative, christian and to a large extent male knowing their privilege is being threatened. This is a desparate attempt to hold on for dear life.

Let’s let them have their 4 years and farse of a president. Let’s let Trump ruin some of the progress made because we will rebuild it. Let Trump fail to follow through on his promises and disappoint the entire nation. Let his suppoerters see their own mistake in the making.

Then, we will come back at them. Hell hath no fury than a nation scorned. If we think that this racist, bigoted, xenophobic portion of America was lashing out, just fucking wait for the part of America that was disappointed steps up to the plate. They won’t know what is coming.

I have moved from despair and disappointment to rage and indignation. Trump supporters think they had “something to fight for.” Well, we will show them a fight. 2020, they better watch out.

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