(Closed) Amora Gem now for Sale!

posted 8 years ago in Rings
Post # 62
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2009

@sparkletiger:  I’ll have a few more tries with videos in the sun with the rings i have. I’m assuming if i can get the diamond to sparkle holding it up in the right angle then the AG should look good too. Its all about experimentation!

The vids from Lorrisey on TFL of her 3 stone moissanite ring re amazing arent they?

Post # 63
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2006

@becleeham:  Yeah, they are gorge. There are lots of girls on that forum with most amazing Moissies. It’s just that not ALL Moissies are that fantastic. That’s why in future I will buy my Moissies either from TFL members or Schubah who cherry pick the best.

Post # 64
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2006

@BlondeMissMolly:  

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@becleeham:  

I didnt’ read the whole thread so didn’t see your posts before re reviews. Becleeham, MissBlondMolly is correct, the reviews have been mixed. The very first review from LightBlue on BTD noted that the stone had a slight yellow tint throughout and overall although it was a good review, it was not fantastic. Those threads are now closed and I doubt that all reviews would be allowed to go onto BTD forum. I trust the WeddingbEe reviews though and it is indeed reassuaring that ChocolateVodka and 19th chance love their AGs.

 But BlondeMissMolly is also correct that people are passing  because on top of all the hassle the price seems to have gone up too. I heard someone mentioning on other forums that the price for 7.5mm is over $1,100. That is hardly $599 per carat, as promised before.  That it is not competitively priced at all even without any extra hassle and duties. Having said that, small size like yours will be very exciting to see and I think when it comes to sims, everything looks better in a smaller size. JMO

Post # 65
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2009

@sparkletiger:  Yes Less explained that 7mm and 7.5mm sizes of the AG were produced accidentally and hence why there are more expensive. He said that they were aiming to produce large sizes of rough to split into 2 smaller pieces to cut into smaller sizes like 6.5mm and 7mm. However they accidentally produced some rough which wasnt quite big enough to split into 2 parts to make 6.5mm or 7mm/7.5mm gems.Instead this rough was only big enough to cut single gemstones – hence the startup more expensive and he said they would be charging $699 per carat for these stones.

Which works out to be approx correct as I paid $825 for my 1.25ct AG. Under $1000  was my target and indeed $825 per stone is very expensive. But I agree with the other lady on TFL, there would be no way i would pay $1100 for a 7.5mm AG! Even if it is all its hyped up to be!

 

Post # 66
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2006

@becleeham:  Oh, I see, thanks for explaining. I am sure that your AG will be beautiful in that size and you have E colour too, so “a one off “so to speak. However, what also comes to mind is how people feel after having been through so much trouble to get the stone and having paid over the odds? When they finally get the AG and with no easy way of returning it, maybe they will just have to feel good about it because they are kind of “stuck” with it then. That is also worrying.  It is nothing against AG (we haven’t seen enough yet to make any final and firm judgements of wether it lives up to the hype or not), but you said you would be able to return it if you wanted to. If say hypotheically (I realise it is unlikely to happen, as your stone will be probably most beautiful) you wanted to return it, then wouldn’t that mean that BTD would be importing a patent protected item into the patent blocked country (i.e. US)? I mean, the laws might be linient where individuals are concerned, but they are a company though. I understand this won’t be a problem for those being in the US as they have already imported it. I am talking about someone like you and me who are not in the US.

I guess what I am trying to say is the timing of the launch is not really great and I understand why most people are just waiting. However, I am glad that there are brave trailblazers like you out there, who will let us all have a peak at what AG is all about.

 

Post # 67
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2009

@sparkletiger:  I do see your point.

I wouldnt keep the AG, just because I had gone to so much hassle to get it in my possession. Imagine wearing a ring everyday that you feel ‘blah’ about??

There is a clear statement on the Better Diamond website that says:

40 Day, Any Reason, World-Wide Return Policy

Purchases from BetterThanDiamond.com should always meet or exceed your expectations. 

However, if for any reason you are not satisfied, we are pleased to offer a Forty (40) day return policy on all purchases.

So believe me, if I dont like the AG, then its getting sent back (and i will apply for refund of sales tax, though customs duties may not be refunded.) Not sure if legally BTD can get in some sort of trouble for accepting a return of the AG as an import into the US, but you would have thought that they had investigated this before choosing to sell and ship the AG to non patent blocked countries.

As a consumer, I am entitled to a refund if i want one. This is what it says on their website and if they dont uphold this policy then that is false advertising. Not sure what happens then?

I’m really hoping it doesnt come to that though!

Post # 68
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2006

@becleeham:  It sounds like you know what you are doing. And the reason behind my return question is also this. I assume that more people who are non US residents but block patented will be tempted to import AG because US is the first to lose the patent. I don’t know about your country in detail, but UK and Canada have yet another year after the US to lose the patent. So if you are getting engaged or anniversary or whatever and set on AG, then the wait is even longer than for those who are not in the US hence the plunge is a bit more worth it.

Post # 69
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2018

what is amora? Embarassed

Post # 70
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2009

@elley2012:  You might be the only person we know that has escaped all the HYPE about the Amora gem!

Its a new gemstone (of the silicon carbide – moissanite family) manufactured by a company called ‘Better than Diamond’ and it supposedly surpasses diamond in every possible way. That is how it is being advertised, but I would take that marketing with a grain of salt.

If you are intrigued, like i was, read more here: http://amoragems.com/

Only a few people on Wedding Bee and other ring forums have actually seen one in real life as currently the gemstone cannot be sold in the US and other big countries like the UK, Australia, Japan etc due to patent issues.

Reviews have mostly been very positive, though actual videos and images of the Amora gem are not as spectacular as the ones shown on the Better Than Diamond website, so everyone is waiting to see a bit more of what it is like in real life before purchasing one.

I’ve ordered one and intend of posing pics/videos here when it finally arrives in a few weeks

Post # 71
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2009

@sparkletiger:  Haha, no i dont know what I’m doing at all! But in the small chance that I dont like the AG when it arrives – I would hope that Better Than Diamond honour their refund policy especially as it is black and white on their website. 

I’m in Australia so i would actually have to wait until 2016 before i could get one shipped here! That is too long for me to wait….

I think for some people, though definitely not all, it is worth it especially where engagement rings are concerned as diamonds are just so ridiculously overpriced and moissanites have have been getting a bad rap for the greenish tinge that some of them have. (However I wish I knew earlier about the FB moissys that people have been getting from Joseph Shubach jewellers cos they just divine. If i knew about this sooner, i may not have been in such a rush to buy the AG!)

I’m also already married, so dont need the AG for an ering, but I do hope its nice because I intend for it to be a 5th wedding anniversary gift.

Post # 72
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2006
Post # 73
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2006

@becleeham:  

Yes, Moissies have been getting A LOT better, HOWEVER the RB cut of Moissy is what some people don’t like. AG has H&A cut- chunkier and more diamond like. Diamonds are only gonna go up in price , which sucks. By The Way, the very last reviewer on BTD was also an Ozzie, and she got AG with no problems and was totally over the moon, saying her sister’s diamond just didn’t stand a chance against AG. This is the problem with diamonds as well as Moissies – not ALL are great. I like the size you ordered and I hope the wait won’t be too torturous for you. Just to let you know from my experience of ordering from BTD, once it shows status “In Setting”, then it’s just a few days before the ring is shipped. In the meantime, you will have to watch lots of ring porn to tide you over. A bit off topic, but do you like my new avatar?

Post # 74
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2018

@becleeham:  Aww Awesome, Thanks For Enlightening Me LOL!

I Look Forward To Seeing Pictures Of Yours 🙂

Ahh Well, In A While To Come There Will Be Another Something Thats “Better Than That Also” Baloney haha! I Say Get What You Like And Thats That lol 🙂

I Have A Moissy Myself And Love It 🙂

Post # 75
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2009

@elley2012:  Of course there will be! But I still bought into the hype because I want a pretty rock in a bigger size and paying $12,000 for an ideal cut 1.25ct stone is just ridiculous so I’m hoping my AG which cost less than a $1000 will be amazing.

What kind of moissy do you have? Do you see much colour? I must admit that this is the one thing that made me hesitant to get a moissy myself

Post # 76
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2006

@becleeham:  

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@elley2012:  

Moissanite that PP or even I have (I got my FB this June) is unlikely to be from the whiter rough, that has just only recently been used by C & C to cut their Moissanite. Some ladies on TFL have that rough (Stardust for istance) and hers unenhanced look whiter than my FB. Also, C&C have been promising to come up with H & A cut Moissy very soon – as early as in 3 months. Maybe that is in response to AG. I don’t know. To me the cut of H & A is very appealing, be it Moissy by C&C or AG. This subject was previously discussed on BTD boards briefly (when C&C announced their intention to release H & A cut Moissy), but the owner of BTD said that AG is a brighter and more brilliant (white light return) SIC so still will be preferable by many. To me Fire (coloured light return) matters more than brilliance – Moissanite is brilliant enough for me. I am after somthing with the Cut of AG and Moissy Fire. Colourwise, this new rough looks good to me. We’ll see what happens. I think the competition of H & A Moissy versus AG will be similar to what we have with FB v Amora Moissanite right now. I welcome the competition though, and it will be interesting to see how H & A cut Moissy will compare to AG in price. I enjoy seeing the competiion in SIC market and think that the loss of the patent in 2 years will benefit the consumer greatly.

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