- Spanish Lace
- 6 years ago
- Wedding: May 2014
Apparently the original post is gone. XD
Apparently the original post is gone. XD
I clicked it and it said -1. so….
This was my first post, so I’m not sure what happened…but here it is again:
It figures. After weeks upon weeks upon days upon hours and hours and hours researching any and all things moissanite; and after countless talks with my Boyfriend or Best Friend about how we feel about the diamond industry and the idea of an alternative ring, we FINALLY decided we love moissanite. We picked an enhanced round 1.5 carat gem, all that was left was for me to fall in love with a setting. And then this happened:
It’s all gone out the window now! I want one so bad I’m sure my desier borders on the edge of manaical! It’s gorgeous! It’s BETTER than a diamond (in my opinion, and since it’s my ring, that’s all that matters)! It’s gorgeous! It’s so economically priced! Did I mention it’s gorgeous? But of course, as with most gorgeous, perfect things…I can’t have it. Thanks to all the lovely patent laws, my dreams have been crushed and because I live in one of these countries, I’m going to have to sit on my (un-adorned, ringless) hands until 2015:
I want to want an enhanced moissanite stone. I really, really do! Mainly because I want a ring and I want to be able to start planning without people looking at me like I’m some crazy wedding-loving girl making up her big day without actually have the groom lined up, but still – I want a ring! But I know me, and everytime I look down at the stone I’m going to think woulda, coulda, shoulda waited. And the day the H&A gem is finally available for sale, I’m going to break down and replaice my stone anyway. The romantic in me has always idealized the engagment ring as something that would be a constant – the ring he puts on my finger will be the same ring I have on my finger the day I day (or, if we decide, the same ring my son gives to his wife or my daughter wears on her finger). But if we change the stone – then it’s not the same.
Is anyone else in my situation? Have you gotten an enhanced stone as a place holder?
Too be totally honest I feel a little bit like a spoiled brat. My own litter version of Veruca Salt. I want the whole worls, (aka, the Amora H&A Gem) and I want it NOW!
Hey, I understand! I’m in exactly the same boat!
Better Than Diamond’s blog said they’ll have big news re: Amora in a week or two, so let’s see what that big news will be first. Also, the stone will come out this summer in some places. You can bet that the better than diamond groupies will figure out a way to get one, via mail forwarding service or something.
Secondly, I feel the same way, and just decided on getting an Avarra sapphire as the temp stonae, have talked to SO, and he’s cool w/it. I’ll replace it w/Amora when it’s easily available in the US.
I totally feel the same way. I JUST decided to get an amora moissanite, which is what brought me to these forums. Then, so many peopke were talking about betterthandiamond that I ended up there and discovered the Amora H&A gem. I actually bought a moissanite though and I even have a placeholder ring. There’s an expensive semi-mount that I’ve been in love with for ages and I’m perfectly willing to wait for it. I just felt weird without a ring, so we bought a cheap 10k gold plain band for the time being and had my moissanite set in it.
so, can somebody clear something up? is the Amora GEM different?
from what I understand from the Bee, but cannot confirm:
1. “Amora” as it is availble currently is only on the surface of the stone, and is available in the US right now
2. “Amora GEM” is a new stone, where it has been “amora-ized” all the way through and is not just the outside. and it’s not available in the US yet.
is this correct or am I getting this wrong? just curious. I’m so confused!
(EDIT: or maybe what I’m referring to #1 above is just “enhanced” and was never called “amora” ever.)
Yes, your edit is correct. There are 3 different stones people talk about. The first “enhanced” moissanite was a coating bonded to the stone — this is different from the current enhancement process, which is called Amora moissanite (which actually makes the stones stronger as well as improving color).
The Amora *gem* is a different stone altogether. It is not the C&C moissanite, but rather a polytype of silicone carbide, a new stone.
Why on earth they named these two different stones the same freaking name (amora moissanite and amora gem) is beyond me! How weird right? And it makes it extra confusing when you throw in the original enhanced moissanite, which is NOT the same as either amora! Thank goodness we have the Internet to sort things out. (:
P.S. The amora gem is not “amora-ized” — it is not treated or enhanced at all (far as I know), but it is nice and white fresh out of the oven, because it is a different type of stone, not moissanite.
Yeah, the naming thing is really annoying. But basically amora moissanite is regular C&C moissanite that has been treated; amora GEM is a new type of gemstone also made from silicon carbide that BTD has grown from scratch and the rough (the material before it is cut into a gem) is much whiter.
Also, OP, I really think Amora Gem will be in the US summer or fall 2012. So don’t freak just yet.
@janie-janie: You’ve pretty much got it right.
What’s available now and called Amora is Amora enhanced moissanite, which is just regular moissanite treated with high temperature and pressure. Better than Diamond tkes Charles & Colvard moissanite and treats it. It is also cut to moissanite specifications (ex: needlelike arrows in the round brilliant, square brilliant instead of princess for square stones), because that’s all Charles & Colvard allows.
Amora Gem is Silicon Carbide, just like moissanite, but is built from scratch, so is grown under different conditions, and has a different structure. Plus, it’ll come in that hearts & arrows cut. This is the stone that isn’t available yet.
This is interesting. If Amora Gem is truly a totally new form of silicon carbide, how come they’re facing legal issues with it? Aren’t there only so many ways carbon and silicon can bond?
double post – sorry!
Yup. You have 3 options for silcon carbide. 1) moissanite, 2) amora moissanite (or enhanced moissanite) and 3) the amora gem.
This is an incredibly huge shot in the dark, put together from WEEKS of research on moissante and my mother’s constant barrage of “lawyering” through my childhood (I knew how to address a breach of contract before I ever signed my first aparment lease at 18). But her is my best non-legal term explination of the patent issues:The reason there are patent issues is because Colvard, the people that lab manufacture moissanite have included the basic molecular/mineral silcon carbide in the patent. The amora gem is a “mutant” version of that molecule/mineral, but since it is technically the same thing/make-up – it’s currently covered by the patent Colvard has. The patent review is looking to find if the change in the creation of the gem and/or what makes it a “mutant” version of the moissanite is different enough that is is actually a totall different product with the same molecules, invalidating the current patent.
All that being said, I am by no means a patent lawyer, I’m not even a law student. I just know the whole thing sucks and I want my H&A gem ASAP!
That sounds about right, Spanish Lace; I’m pretty sure the legal problems are all down to the absurd, draconian patent laws.
There are hundreds of ways Silicon Carbide can bond! As a comparative example, diamond and graphite are both just allotropes of carbone — but you’d never see a graphite engagement ring in a jewellery store, right? (-;
either way, I’m curious to find out how good Amora Gem ends up being. I am extremely hopeful that they can improve moissanite to the point that they could *finally* begin to offer princess or asscher cuts. here’s hoping!
I want that Amora gem too! But I did just order the Amora moissanite because I just couldn’t wait that long. I have serious patience issues. I also wonder just how visually different the two stones could be. Im alway stalking the BTD boards for thei Friday updates.
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