(Closed) Amora Moissanite Shortage (long)

posted 6 years ago in Rings
Post # 3
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: November 2012

That is unfortunate and really annoying! I am still not clear on why your jeweller would even suggest that – I would be pissed.

Post # 4
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Blushing bee

I saw that on the BTD update last week. It kind of has me worried! My SO and I have decided on moissanite but dont plan on getting it right away. I told him about this, so hopefully we will get it soon. I would hate for them to run out before we got one and then we would still have time before the amora gem came out.

Post # 5
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: April 2013

Very interesting. Thanks for posting!

Post # 7
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 2010

BTD said this week they got a few in suitable for Amora (lower rejection rate) so they are not as worried about supply drying up as much as they were a couple weeks ago. They are taking from a new pool, it seems. Not sure how many larger sizes they received though that are suitable for them to do.

 

I thought you could also ask Mo Co to send stones for Amora treatment? They have quite a few in stock, and while it takes extra time (weeks) depending on schedules, I was under the impression they can arrange for that. At least, I know they do for the OECs (send them for cutting by C&C, get them back and then send them to BTD to enhance before getting them back for stock or customer orders) so not sure why they could not for the round brilliants? Unless that just complicates things too much so they don’t do it that way now?

Post # 8
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 1969

@obsessivebee:  What a nightmare, how frustrating! Have you asked BTD/moissyco about getting that size restocked? 

I did some digging on the BTD forums, and found the following info for anyone else interested:

Re the Forever Brilliantwhat this stone actually is remains unclear (it’s either a coating or a permenent treatment like the Amora) but what is clear is that C&C have come out looking pretty shady (bc they claimed the stones were not coated but BTD tested samples and they were coated). Also C&C refuses to explain the process and their customer service rep lied about moissyco stones. Dirty methods. Personally I don’t care what treatment C&C uses, I’d still buy coated stones, but they had better be honest about it & not slander their competition! 

Re Amora Moissanite Shortage: BTD (the company that makes the Amora) says this is still a potential problem but it does not seem to be urgent right now. If you want to be guarenteed an Amora, put a deposit down now. If you can’t yet, you’ll probably still be fine but it’s worth keeping an eye on. BTD get their moissanite from various distributors, & they seem to have switched to another distributor to avoid the “dirty pond” problem. Here is BTD’s description of this problem: 

What appears to be happening is the dirty pond syndrome. Effectively, we pull a bucket out of the pond of available moissanites from the distributors and pre-screen. We select those that meet our quality bar in terms of cutting proportions for the pre-screen, and send the rest back. We then continue that process for each batch of Amora enhanced, but eventually, the reservoir we are pulling from is now largely comprised of…already rejected stones. 

Thus, the more we draw from the pond, the more we get of already rejected stones and so the rejection rate just keeps climbing since we’re evaluating fewer and fewer ‘new’ stones. In essence, until these rejected stones are sold and new stock is supplied by CTHR to those distributors, we may simply run out of stones to treat. 

So they have now found a new “pond” to draw from, but they expect to run into the same issue with this pond, too. They have one more “pond” after that, then there will be supply problems (unless C&C grows new batches of moissanite).

Post # 11
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Helper bee

@obsessivebee:  You cannot send in a stone to MoissaniteCo for treatment. I actually just contacted them about this.

Post # 12
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 2010

@booEXcore:  Yes, you cannot send in a stone you already have from a different vendor, but Mo Co sends some of their own stones to BTD for treatment, like the OECs they have C&C cut for them, since they do not do it themselves. Technically, they could also send regular stones they have in stock to get Amora as well as they do with the OECs, I just do not know if they will do so. They may just prefer to get their Amora RBs direct already enhanced from BTD or have an agreement or policy not to send other than particular cuts like the OEC to BTD for Amora enhancement.

I imagine part of the reason they definitely would not take stones that were bought elsewhere for treatment has to do with insurance and warranty issues, as well as because Mo Co is not the ones doing the Amora in the first place. 

Post # 13
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: January 2010

@obsessivebee:  I imagine that the FB is indeed a coating it may be much like the old enhanced (like deathbydesign has), since it is still the Serenity labs doing it, of which there are lots of reviews. 

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

Thanks for the heads up. I used the shortage as an excuse to get my husband to order my Amora moissy before it was too late. He ordered this week, so hopefully we will get it soon.

Post # 15
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Newbee

Hello to all,

I just wanted to explain a little.  Yes, we have had a temporary shortage due to a higher than expected % of the stones being rejected during the prescreening process.  For this reason we are currently low on a number of stones.  However we have several dozen of each of the round sizes being processed now in the 5mm – 8.5mm size. 

We do have 4 or 5 3ct round stones being processed now.  The reason its not more is because for this stone in particular (and only this size/shape) the reject rate continues to be very high, regardless of the distributor we purchase from. 

To the OP, please send us your email address, and I will save a stone from the next batch of stones that is being processed now.  It should be available in a few weeks at the most. 

But in general, we are taking the steps now to ensure we have a higher stock availability in the coming months. 

Post # 16
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2011

This is unfortunate. I looked into Amora moissanite, and it’s a beautiful stone. I would have seriously considered it if we weren’t working with insurance. They give us a set amount (more than the setting I want and moissanite combined), and, if you don’t use it, you just lose it. It would be a shame if the supply dries up. 

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