(Closed) An Aggressively Anti-Christian World…

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Sugar Beekeeper
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@bebero:  So all people should face discrimination because some people discriminate?

Post # 33
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Sugar bee
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@AB Bride:  that’s not what I said and is not even a logical conclusion of what I said.

Yes, I’m going to be hostile with people who promote hate and inequality and demand that the rights of all obey by the spiritual laws of some

However, I’m not going to demand that they have less rights than I do. I’m not discriminating.

Post # 34
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Sugar Beekeeper
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@Rachel631:  You’re not incorrect that much of the world has great disdain for Christ followers.  Jesus even told us that, if people hated Him, they would hate us because of Him.

Much of the world today either rejects Jesus outright for who He  claims to be and what He commands of His followers, or people have very wrongly and very dangerously embraced a Jesus of their own imaginings, one that is not  the Jesus of Scripture but, instead, one that is the result of human beings trying to remake God into their image of what they would like Him to be.

Post # 35
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Bumble bee
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There’s hate and discrimination facing each and every religion and depending on where you are in the world it’s different. In every religion there are going to be the extremists and the people who claim to be something they are not- that’s inevitable. It’s very unfortunate for the people who try to be kind and really live their values as much as they can- it’s unfortunate to be generalized as something someone may not be due to others actions.

I personally don’t claim to be a part of any religion and all the generalizations of many religions has been what’s held me back from joining a church, but it’s definitely something Fiance and I are becoming more interested in. I think you have to do your best and live as true to your values as you can. There will always be haters.

Post # 36
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Buzzing bee
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The examples that you used were clearly wrong actions, so yes, Christians have faced opposition.  But if you can walk out of your home with a cross on your neck, Bible in your hand, and yell out “I love Jesus” without being physically harmed or arrested, its hardly an “anti-Christian world.”  

I believe that people are inherently bad, so its not a surprise that discrimination happens.  But when there is TRUE religious persecution happening around the world- where people of all faiths are being murdered– its silly to say Christians are being discriminated against in the UK.  When you get death threats, rather than a mean remark, then you can cry wolf.

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@bebero:  I for one responded on the thread about gay people and I did not go back so I have no idea of my responses.

If I believe that marriage under the church should be between a man and a woman, what’s wrong with that?  You have a right to believe otherwise.  Everyone should have equal rights under the secular government but if there is a church who believes that marriage is between a man and a woman, then a gay person should just NOT get married under that church premise – simple as that. That’s why there is separation of church and state according to the law and I have no problems with the government deciding what it wants to decide.  But I am entitled to my opinion.  Its as if everyone disagrees with the populace, people are quick to call it discrimination when it is simply an opinion.

I could say the same thing about Muslims.  Because I see extremist muslims, I wont put all of them in the same category.

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Buzzing Beekeeper
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@Brielle:   Hmmmmm.  I completely adore you and you know that.

But – I feel if a person loves Jesus/God, however they imagine Him to be, is a lovely, personal and deeply spiritual thing.  God speaks to the human heart in many ways, not only through the Word of God (the Bible).  My feeling is that it’s dangerous to try to put God in a box and tell others how they should believe. 

The evidence of a person touched by God (or any name a person chooses to use – Spirit, Creator, Life Force, etc.) is what comes out of them – Is it love or hate?  Is it kindness or cruelty?  Is it tolerance and respect, or intolerance and disrespect?

I’ve honestly met some Atheists in my life who live more closely to “Christian” values than many Christians I’ve known.

Loving and being true to God is more than a label – it’s a way of living and treating other people.

And you are simply the BEST!!

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Helper bee
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@BooRadley:  Why do you believe that people ore inherently bad?

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Bee Keeper
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@Rachel631:  I see you are from the UK so I can’t really comment much on this since I am from america and have never seen anything like what you describe.

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@Butterfly6:  I don’t care one bit about what the church does, I care about the government. 

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Honey bee

What gets me is how playing the victim is actually written into the fundamental belief of Christianity. They claim they will be persecuted and hated– well, there are lots of religious groups who has suffered a lot more of that than Christians historically. Most people in society just want to live their lives happily and not harm others. Shoving personal faith-driven beliefs into other people’s faces and into the government, no matter what religion you are, is what causes public distain to religion.

Put simply: if Christians are persecuted, so is everyone else. 

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Sugar bee
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@Sunfire:  High 5 for you SunFire!

I can only speak as a US citizen (who loves herself some seperation of church and state), but my work place is very diverse. REALLY diverse and we are all able to take off the days we wish and wear what we want as long as it didn’t effect the bottom line. 

I wish all workplaces had the acceptance mine does. 

Heaven forbid me mentioning I was not a christian at my old place. I got shamed infront of the district manager of all people! 

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@Rachel631:  OP, can you please explain why in the UK, wearing a cross or religous symbol was considered a health violation?

Personally I feel that the workplace should either be welcoming to peoples of all faiths or have a strict “non-religous” stance for the protection of their employees

 

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Bumble Beekeeper
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If more people acted like Jesus there would be less hate for Christians.

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