Post # 32
@renwoman: I know right? I hadn’t even thought about this angle before. What I find ironic is that a lot of the anti-vaccine group come from religious backgrounds (as I myself do) and yet, not vaccinating, especially when considering the immunocompromised – is the least Christian thing you can do! It’s one of the most selfish acts there are really.
(I used Christian in this post because it makes the most grammatical sense and because I have a Catholic upbringing which falls under the “Christian” umbrella)
P.S. Is that the correct use of ironic? I swear I can never really work that word out.
Post # 33
Your friend is most likely out of luck unless she went through an extremely shady adoption agency. Children who are adopted from 3rd world countries have usually already been vaccinated (up to what is appropriate for their age) and most countries will not allow an adopted child to be bought back without vaccinations and the certificates to show it.
As someone who is Ben in your post I am thankful to every parent that vaccinates their child. When you have lived through the hell that is treatment for some of the diseases that cause you to be immunocompromised the last thing you want is to die or become extremely ill because of a preventable illness that you contracted from someone that wasn’t vaccinated.
Post # 34
I totally agree. It scares me to think that newborn babies or people who are immunocompromised for other reasons (eg. undergoing chemo) are at risk because people aren’t vaccinating their kids. The ‘vaccines cause autism’ study has been WIDELY discredited.
Post # 35
@bebero: Thank you. Anti-vaxxers make me feel RAGE on a level that few other things can induce. The movement is the product of wilful, destructive ignorance.
Great Public Service Announcement. I read this article on the same topic recently, it’s old, but still good:
People who don’t vaccinate their children are reaping the benefits of vaccination-provided herd immunity while simultaneously weakening it for everyone else. I call these people selfish beyond all reason and derelict in their parental and civic duties. I would 100% support prosecuting people who don’t vaccinate their children and their kids end up spreading a deadly disease to others who were unable to get vaccinated for a legitimate reason.
Post # 36
Yes, pertussis vaccines only last a certain length of time and EVERY adult should get a booster! There was an outbreak here a few years ago in a religious group and I ended up with it! I have asthma already so when whooping cough was added it just about killed me. I couldn’t breathe, had coughing fits every few minutes all day and night for months. I barely slept in that time and was in such rough shape by the time it went away that I was sleeping about 20 hours a day.
i just found out that I have a genetic liver syndrome that causes extreme fatigue…I was tired before the pertussis but didn’t know why…after? I was a walking wheezing zombie!
People that don’t get their vaccinations or get their children vaccinated (except in medically compromised) are on my list of the most selfish.
Post # 37
im not sure that I understand your post. You say that vaccines can spread disease? Where did you read that?
Post # 38
I have had all my shots, I am vaccinated. I still got Pertussis (whooping cough) and believe me – IT IS TERRIBLE, it is not something you want to get, it is a terrible terrible illness and we were told that because we’d been vaccinated the cases we got were less severe than some of the people in the community that had not been vaccinated.
Polio still exists, people forget that, we just don’t see it here because of vaccination – do we really want out children crippled because of polio again?
Measles has been making the rounds at university campuses and those of us from Newfoundland were told to not worry because in NL they still give a third dose of the vaccine in grade 9 – this has been phased out in other parts of the country. I realise it’s not scientific, but I know no one who recieved the grade 9 booster who has had measles, lots of people who didn’t get that booster who HAVE had measles – not something I want to get.
Post # 39
That’s a good point. I hate to be that way, but it’s true. She and I haven’t had a face to face convo about vaccines, but she’s in the prenatal industry and posts articles about no-vaccinations sometimes on FB. MY SIL is really good friends with her and told me they haven’t vaccinated–don’t plan to. Maybe I should ask her about it before I make assumptions, but I am pretty sure that’s her stance.
j_jaye Good point. So at least one is vaccinated!
Post # 40
Thank you for posting this!
Post # 41
Sorry about that; I had one too many glasses of wine lol.
What I meant was that vaccinating has been proven to help deter the spread of illness, while *not vaccinating* may have a very miniscule chance of creating illness (autism) but such a causal relationship has never been proven.
Post # 42
Yeah, I definitely don’t understand why you wouldn’t vaccinate yourself and your children (unless there is a legitimate medical reason why you or your kids cannot be vaccinated).
I am up to date with vaccinations, as is DH, and our future child(ren) will be as well.
Post # 43
@bebero: Where I live, children can’t go to school without vaccine records. Is that not the case in the US?
Post # 44
Ugh. I’m friends with this girl on FB from high school who has 2 kids and is vocally anti-vaccinations. EVERYTHING she posts on the topic is complete bullsh*t AND her kids are ALWAYS, ALWAYS sick (I know this because she is also one of those people who posts every little detail of their lives on FB). Hmm lady..I wonder why your kids are always coming down with something? BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PROTECTION AGAINST ANYTHING. Also, her older kid seems like a huge brat and she’s one of those moms who think their way is the best/only way to raise your children. Her posts just piss me off (she just posted something about her kids as I wrote this) – end rant.
Post # 45
It depends on the district. Also, as the anti-vaccination movement is getting stronger, parents are putting up more and more of a fight (and getting their way). My mom works in a school district where vaccinations used to be required and now they’re changing the policy because of pressure from so many parents. Seems so stupid and counter-productive.
Post # 46
It’s true that kids here need vaccine records also, but parents can object on religious grounds (and in some places, even just on more general “moral” grounds). But a lot of these anti-vaccine parents homeschool. There was just recently a huge disease outbreak linked to a mega church in Texas that is anti-vaccine. All those parents homeschooled.