(Closed) And this is why you vaccinate your children

posted 7 years ago in Wellness
Post # 62
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: October 2019 - City, State

this topic really grinds my gears.

I have a friend who has an autistic son and she is forever posting articles (from shady sources by the way) about how vaccines cause autism. My son was vaccinated, I was, his father was, my whole family was, it’s just the safe thing to do IMO. As for vaccines causing autism,  Correlation, does not imply causation. repeat after me, CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION.  It’s irresponsible to not get your kids vaccinated.

In a case where it’s not possible to vaccinate, that’s obviously different. But those cases make it that much more important that all other children get vaccinated.

 

 

Post # 63
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: January 2010

Seriously though… other than the autism argument, why WOULDN’T you vaccinate?

Probably I should ask my anti-vacc friend, but IRL I really try to stay away from these kinds of conflicts.

Post # 64
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Sugar Beekeeper
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@Miss Damask:  I don’t know any other argument besides autism and Guillain Barre, which I also believe there’s no strong link there if any.

Post # 65
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Helper bee

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@skippydarling:  +1 YES! they all post articles on Facebook. If your parenting choice is so great, why do you need to convince 200 plus people of it?

 

Edited for typos!

 

 

 

Post # 66
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Bumble bee
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@stardustintheeyes:  Um hello, my friends cousins kid breaths oxygen and has autism, so that means OXYGEN CAUSES AUTISM

 

I’ve actually used that argument with people who wax poetic about MMR causing autism and they don’t even see how its the exact same rediculous conversation.  CAUSATION AND CORRELATION ARE NOT THE SAME THING. JENNY MCCARTHY IS NOT A DOCTOR.

 

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Post # 67
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Sugar bee
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As many said, correlation doesn’t imply causation.  In addition to the discredited study, a reason people believe it’s vaccinations is because you start seeing signs of autism right around the time that vaccinations are traditionally done, so folks unfortunately correlate the two.  You know another thing correlated with say, age 2?  Shortness.  All those kids are pretty gosh darned short.  But we don’t blame autism on shortness.  I am less bothered by folks that merely delay vaccination schedules, but greatly bothered by those that skip them entirely – and then send to school, pools, girl/boy scouts etc.

We almost had some diseases erradicated that are now coming back.

Post # 68
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: June 2013

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@bkrocks13:  Even though I don’t watch the show, I’m kind of pissed that Jenny McCarthy is now on the View, “educating” thousands of people on her crazy theories.  She just needs to learn some science and go away.

 

Post # 69
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Honey bee
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@Miss Damask:  I agree the truth is the best way to go.  Other then that I’m suprized she’s allowed to adobt.  With all the hoops you need to jump thorugh to adopt, this should def be one of them.

Post # 70
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Honey bee
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I was pretty sure I had to be vaccinate to attend school, is this not the case anymore?

Post # 71
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Bumble bee

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@AB Bride:  They if that’s the case, I’m sure the schooling would ask them to provide medical evidence or something from the doctor stating that they have antibodies that are immune to their immunizations.

 

Post # 72
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Bumble bee

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@Atalanta:  My kids have to be up todate with their vaccines before the first day of school. I have to send in a copy of it from the doctor’s office to the nurse’s office at the school for their records every year.

Post # 73
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Sugar Beekeeper
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@Miss Damask:  Lots of different reasons, some good others not so much.

  • The cost is too much
  • Someone is too young
  • The lineup to get one is too long, or clinic hours don’t work with someone’s schedule
  • Someone is sick and has been advised to delay it
  • Someone is competing in a sport and doesn’t want to have a sore arm
  • The side effects someone experienced previously weren’t worth it to them (either minor or severe)
  • The likilihood of contracting the disease is small
  • Someone is allergic to an ingredient
  • Someone is unlikely to be protected from the vaccine due to their immune system
  • religious beliefs
  • Concerns that the vaccine isn’t actually beneficial but was produced to harm a population – while this seems unlikely in North America at this time, there are times and places where I couldn’t blame people for being concerned
  • Worry about passing on a live virus vaccine to someone who it would harm
  • Needles are being reused
  • Someone doesn’t want a positive antibody test (this could be a major concern if a HIV vaccine was produced)
  • There’s a shortage and someone who isn’t high risk saves it for those who are

Post # 74
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Sugar Beekeeper
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@rickhurst35:  Ok, so they can get a note.  If someone is allergic to a component of the vaccine, why should they have to risk their life and not just have a note?

Post # 75
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Bumble bee

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@AB Bride:  Not sure.  Call a pediatrician or an elementary school and ask them what happens if you refuse to vaccinate your child what the regulations are with starting school when the school requires vaccines to be up to date with them prior to the first day of school. I’m not concerned about it. My children are vaccinated, so it’s not really my problem. I was asking a question in my post not making a statement or viewing a point. It was an honest question.  

Post # 76
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Sugar Beekeeper
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@rickhurst35:  I’m confused what your actual question was then.  It sounded like you were wondering why kids who aren’t vaccinated are allowed to attend school.  I made my point to show that it would be discriminatory.

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