(Closed) Any bee-lawyers out there?

posted 8 years ago in Legal
Post # 3
2208 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

I don’t know the law of Washington, but at the end of the day, if you file the paperwork that says you are married, you are married. The only people with standing to challenge that are the state, which won’t care, and either of you. If you, god forbid, decide to get a divorce but try to argue that you weren’t ever married, that is the only time it would matter. If you lived together as spouses and held yourselves out to the public that way, you will be fine. There is a legal doctrine called putative spouse that covers technicalities like this. So, for example, if a Judge married you who was actually disrobed the day before and never told you, technically you wouldn’t be married. BUT, the state would still recognize you and you would be divorced like married people under the doctrine, which covers people who think they are married but have a technical flaw in their marriage.

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Post # 4
1962 posts
Buzzing bee

You should check with your county marriage bureau

Post # 6
1962 posts
Buzzing bee

Are you serious…I am going to look online and see if Wash State has anymore info avail.  What is your country/city?

Post # 8
19 posts
  • Wedding: May 2010

Don’t EVER bother asking anyone who works for a state or federal government entity (administrative, not services) for legal interpretation.  They will ALWAYS state that they can not provide legal advice.  It is extremely annoying; I know!  If your bother is going to be ordained online, that is sufficient.  He would be “a person who is ordained.”  Ordainment is not regulated or monitored by the state as historically it has been a religious issue (you know, the whole separation of church and state stuff LOL).  Period.  File the license and move on.  😉

Post # 9
62 posts
Worker bee
  • Wedding: January 2011

Yeah – I’m with starbride (even though it’s annoying, they aren’t attorneys so they can’t give you legal advice, that’s why they have to say that).  Where are you getting married?  I grew up near Poulsbo and am starting to look at venues around there!

Post # 10
12087 posts
Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2009 - Barr Mansion

I think she was just telling you that as a non-attorney, she is not allowed to give legal advice.  I don’t think it means that your marriage would not be legit.

Post # 11
1962 posts
Buzzing bee

The reason why I ask about where you live is because Universal Life Church (who I guess is ordaining your bro) puts a lil caveat out there about them being able to ordain, but that the legality of the ordination and the ensuing marriage is up to the state,  So for example, in NY, you can use a Universal Life minister but you have to go through a couple of other steps.  I will look out for it.

Post # 13
1074 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2009

In Pennsylvania (which I realize is far from WA), you can’t use a ‘minister’ ‘pastor’, etc unless they are “Ministers of any church organized, carrying on its work, and having congregations in this state may perform marriages in this state if authorized by their church to do so.”  (plus judges, JoPs, etc)



Post # 14
4480 posts
Honey bee
  • Wedding: March 2010 - Calamigos Ranch

On the other hand, in CA, if you and your Fiance both in good faith believe that your brother is qualified to perform the marriage because he is ordained, it would be legal whether he actually was qualified or not.

Basically, if they give you the authorized certificate, you’re married as long as you think you are married. The only way it could cause a problem (if WA marriage law doesn’t allow an online ordained minister) is if one of you tried to anull it.

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