(Closed) Any Diamond Clarity Experts Around? VS2 Questions

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Post # 17
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

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@SoupyCat:  Me too. I couldn’t decide between two wedding bands based on the photos so I just ordered both and returned the one I liked less. No problems at all.

Post # 18
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

With a VS2 stone, regardless of size, there should not be any inclusions visible to the naked eye. My stone is 1 carat, VS2, G colour, excellent cut and even with a loupe and being told where the inclusions were I was unable to see them, both before and after the stone was set.

Edit: I just found my appraisal certificate, which defines the clarity levels on the back. For VS it says “The V.S. Grades (Very small inclusions) The term V.S. is used for diamonds in which it is difficult for a qualified observer, under observation conditions as described, to find either a few somewhat larger internal characteristics or several very small ones.” The conditions are described under the F.L. grade as “under favourable lighting conditions…through examination with a 10X corrected loupe.”

Post # 19
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: March 2013

OP, I think the thing to confirm is that your stone is being graded by GIA or AGS. You might already know that, but just making sure! EGL-graded stones are on much lower standards than GIA/AGS, so an EGL VS2 will definitely look more included than a GIA/AGS VS2. I’ve heard that it’s 2 marks lower. So a EGL VS2 would be graded a SI2 on the GIA/AGS scale. [someone confirm?]

I have a .9 carat GIA-graded VS2 and I have never seen an inclusion. We took my ring to the jeweller (he is so legit–he used to be a GIA grader for more than a decade), and he said that even looking through the loupe, I wouldn’t be able to find the inclusion. He said it takes him a pretty long time, looking at the same stone 3x a day to see a VS2 inclusion, especially a feather like the one that is in my stone. I kept looking for it when I was there because I was curious, and he kept telling me I would never find it.

Don’t worry! I actually kind of think that I could have gone lower with the inclusion scale, like SI1. Of course, it always depends on the individual diamond, too. 🙂 Hope that helps!

Post # 20
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: July 2010

Every diamond will be different.  If you happen to have a diamond that has great clarity, but has a chip on the side- that could be a good thing because it could be covered by a prong.  Or… maybe that could not be ideal to you- I know someone who cracked their diamond and this was their case.  VS2 is a great option, imo, and even an SI is going to look very nice.  Again, each and every one will be different and have inclusions in different places, but in general, anything at or above an SI is going to look good, for the most part, to the naked eye.

Post # 21
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

The only way to know what u are comfortable with is to see each diamond in person. Not all VS2 clarity grades are equal. When we were originally shopping, we were looking at VS2 diamonds. I had a few brought in (All AGS or GIA) and some of them had very small black inclusions I could see. Turns out I’m very sensitive and have sharp vision. We got frustrated and I ended up with a VS1 to be super sure it was clean. However, my sister has a VS2 and it’s very clean. It depends on what kind of inclusions too. I’d avoid feathers or indented naturals near the girdle if you are concerned about future damage.  

Post # 24
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

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@canarydiamond:  the black carbon inclusions are typically from crystal type inclusions and rarely clouds or pinpoints can be black. All inclusions aren’t equal though and crystals, clouds and pinpoints can also be clear. You gotta take each diamond individually before you purchase. I’d make sure to tell the jeweler you were working with that anything black is unacceptble. That’s what we told our jeweler and after over a month of failure to find one, we gave up on VS2. I do not regret getting a VS1 at all!

As for damage, any diamond, even an internally flawless one, can be chipped or crack if struck in the right way. Feathers near the girdle increase the chances but there’s really no preventing it 10000% but you can be sure to insure the diamond. I also have a thin halo on my ring that protects the girdle so that if I smack my ring, the halo is hit and not the girdle directly. The girdle is more exposed in solitaire settings. 

Post # 26
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2018 - Toronto, Ontario

i would focus on cut, clarity, colour, carat, in that order

diamonds are extremely hard and very brittle, so even the cleanest will shatter if struck the wrong way

even SI1-SI2 clarity diamonds are fine to wear, a lot of antique diamonds do not have great clarity but they survived.

if you’re worried about it chipping and cracking pay close attention to the size of the girdle, if its too big the stones sparkle will be compromised, if its too thin or comes to a sharp point it will be more prone to chipping and cracking even from the pressure of the prongs since those tend to bend with time and wear

there are also a lot of enchanced diamonds which im not even sure what exactly means lol

Post # 27
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: February 2018 - Toronto, Ontario

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@canarydiamond:  my mom has a diamond that has a carbon spot in it, the ring is very old and the jeweler advised the original purchaser to pick that stone over the other similar one because the cut was ideal, its colourless, and other than the carbon spot its internally flawless.

apparantly the spot does not make the stone weak, i mean those spots were there when the stone formed millions of years ago and a diamond is made of carbon, there are also other things present in the diamond including gasses and other minerals, thats why some diamonds glow under a uv light and some are fancy coloured

i was curious and took all my jewels under my microscope, and was not impressed at the absurd randomness inside at very high magnifications, the cleanest and prettiest one was a cz

Post # 29
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Worker bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

A bit late to comment here, but I have a VS2 diamond, slightly over 2 carats. I can’t see any flaws, and my diamond is hand cut (I have an old miners cut). I bet if you are getting a newer diamond, it will look even better! Good luck!

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