Post # 1
I only have one dog myself, a hypo allergenic bo chi (: I did have two but one died while I was on my honeymoon ): and I often dog sit for family members. That said, I’m good with caring for multiple dogs so I’ve been debating the idea of breeding puppies. I don’t necessarily want to breed an AKC registered breed, maybe a designer dog like our bo chi (who’s neutered so I can’t use him as a stud dog). Do any of you bees breed puppies or know anyone that does? I just kind of need some advice, like:
how did you get started?
do you ever have puppies that don’t find a home?
do you make a decent income doing this?
Post # 3
Breeding shouldn’t be for income. Breeding, when done responsibly, is incredibly expensive and you won’t make a profit.
I would highly recommend you ask this question on the Dogster forums. There are many people who have bred or still do there. They’ve given me a ton of great info since I got my Abner.
They’d be able to give you the real deal on breeding.
Also, check out this link. http://dogplay.com/GettingDog/breedercomparison.htm
It will give you an idea on what makes a responsible breeder.
ETA: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FEtbyWEhHOw/TSh_TDYFN1I/AAAAAAAAAE0/JyQMVvK3sFg/s1600/0EjG4.jpg Here’s a flowchart to help out too!
ETA 2: Considerations of things that can go wrong during breeding, whelping, and so forth
Post # 4
If you love being around dogs so much why don’t you foster shelter dogs that face a certain death if they aren’t adopted, instead of contributing to the problem? These posts make me sick.
Post # 6
I agree with the PP.
I would not reccomend breeding for income. Sure you can do it backyard and bootlegg, but that can be extremely expensive in order to maintain impeccable standards and a humane operation. Designer dogs are just mutts, so the breeding you get is not guaranteed.
If you don’t sell the dog(s) then , I’m assuming you can’t keep them so they would go to the pound and be destroyed if not adopted out. Or perhaps you have a friend or a local rescue that would take them/it.
Also to make a profit , you would have to keep your bitch continuously pregnant and to be honest thats no life for a dog. They can only go so many rounds before health complications. If you can separate your animal from a pet, and treat it like a business tool then it may work for you.
Best of luck! If you are just itching for another dog, I highly recommend just adopting and working with organizations to find a perfect match for you and your family.
Post # 7
@kelmac: Since you asked, my sister works at a vet’s office and she and I both have fostered dogs that were just “dumped” there and found them good homes. The most recent dog I fostered, I gave to one of my patients and I get regular updates on her. My bo chi, Shep, I adopted from the Humane society and my baby that died in August I adopted from the local shelter. I am sympathetic to homeless and abandoned animals; however, many people love them and would love to adopt but need certain breeds due to allergies (like myself and my mother, who has a labradoodle), small living spaces, disabilities, etc. For example my mother is also allergic to dogs but loves them so she decided to adopt a labradoodle. She got him from a breeder so she could be absolutely sure of his breeding because her allergies are more severe than mine. My dog is half chihuahua so he doesn’t bother my allergies too badly, however if my allergies were more severe (like my mothers) there’s no way I would adopt a dog if I didn’t know his breed. I think I’m one of the few dog owners with allergies that search for hypo allergenic dogs at the shelter or the humane society. Most don’t subject themselves to that (it’s miserable to go there by the way especially since I’m allergic to cats also). Any dogs I breed would have to be hypo allergenic and I would sell them to those who need that.
Post # 8
Breeding “designer dogs” is a terrible, terrible thing. If you’re going to breed dogs, you should be able to answer ALL of these questions with a YES:
Am I breeding purebred dogs?
Are my dogs competing in legit dog shows or working competitions (herding, retrieving, etc)?
Am I doing genetic testing on my dogs, in addition to all the usual vet care?
Am I seeking out male dogs who will be a good match for my female (in terms of genetically sound puppies)?
Do I require that should a buyer be unable to keep their dog, that they bring it back to me?
PLEASE do not breed dogs. If a person needs a “hypoallergenic” dog, there are legitimate breeds that fit the bill.
Post # 9
@Baimee: I didn’t say I was doing it for money, I have a great job and I make enough. It was simply a question because I’ve often wondered why so many people do it if you supposedly “do not make a profit.” I would be doing it because I love dogs and I hate hearing people say that they, their child, etc. want a puppy but because of allergies they can’t and I want to help!
Post # 10
People breed dogs in order to advance and better their breed of choice. That’s why reputable breeders do it, anyway.
Post # 11
Please do not start breeding and add to the overpopulation of pets!
If people REALLY wanted a hypoallergenic dog they would do the research and find a hypoallergenic dog. And nowadays you can find many hypoallergenic mutts in shelters because they have become “designer”.
People like to talk and I am sure many people have said they would like a dog like yours but in reality if you had puppies I am sure most of those people would not want to adopt one.
Please seek out many dog sites and get all your information before starting to breed!
Post # 12
@taylor.ashleys: It seems just as risky to get a LabxPoodle cross, as they aren’t always low-shedding. You could get a very furry, shedding dog. After all, Labs are half the genetics!
There are already a variety of options for hypoallergenic dogs, even in shelters! Like PP said, it’s to advance the breed. People who love breeding dogs responsibly go broke doing it, but still go on with it. You have to be prepared for a lot financially to do this. Taking back unwanted puppies for ANY reason at ANY point is one of these responsibilities. Genetic testing is hundreds of dollars. There are tons of costs. You kind of have to be a nut to do it. =)
And if you realy want to help, you could get involved with a breed rescue, such as a Poodle rescue. There are other low-shedding breeds as well. Then you’d be saving a dog’s life AND helping someone find their perfect friend. Since you seem to have some connections to a vet office you could be very useful to a rescue.
You can also help educate people on how to find the perfect hypoallergenic breed for them.
It doesn’t sound like you’re interested in breeing so much as helping. I strongly recommend you involve yourself in rescue. Breed-specific rescues having more help = more dogs rescued = more people who can rescue a dog when they have allergies, since more dogs will be available AND they wouldn’t have to go to a shelter.
Does that sound intriguing at all?
Post # 13
First off, let me say that I’m not trying to be an a**hole.
There are literally MILLIONS of dogs who need homes, so I can’t imagine creating more, and the thing is, you think you can screen the buyers, but you really can’t. Lots of people buy “designer dogs” and then dump them when they get bored, or if the dog has any behavioural issues.
I adopted my “designer” puggle from a shelter where he was on death row. His owner got him from a breeder, kept him a few years, and then dumped him at the nearest shelter when he became “too high maintenance”.
I think that breeding just contributes to the already MASSIVE problem we have with homeless animals. I know a vet who has six dogs because every time someone comes in to put their dog down because they no longer wanted them. ANd every single dog he has is purebred or designer.
Obviously not everyone who buys from breeders mistreats their animals, but for a lot of people, designer dogs and purebred dogs are accessories, not members of the family.
Post # 14
Ok, I think this is the last time I’m going to post on my own thread here. I have bees who are breeders private messaging me because you’ve all made them terrified to post, so I will get info from the people who know what they are talking about. No matter what any of you say, it will always be fact that the majority of the dog owning population will purchase from a breeder and pay hundreds of dollars when there are many at the shelters that are perfect. That’s just how it is. I’ve chosen to adopt both of the dogs I’ve owned, but you aren’t going to convince everyone that that is the best way, especially if even going into a shelter sets off a major allergic reaction.
Maybe instead of crucifying someone for simply asking a question, you should go out there and change the minds of those who have only/will only buy a dog from a breeder. Breeders would not stay in business if people stopped buying from them.
Post # 15
@taylor.ashleys: Nobody is “crucifying” you, but I can see how these anonymous answers make you feel bad about what you said. I think your belief that we are “terrifying” bees who are breeders is a bit of a hyperbole as well.
Simply put, a lot of people have a lot of problems with dog breeding (perhaps, with the exception of when it is done by professionals to maintain/advance a breed or for breeds that are not pets/are truly working dogs). I’m one of those people. We’re not going to be supportive of something that we think is morally wrong. I actually think that the responses you got were, by and large, mature and calm.
Post # 16
“It will always be fact that the majority of the dog owning population will purchase from a breeder and pay hundreds of dollars…That’s just how it is. Breeders would not stay in business if people stopped buying from them.”
@taylor.ashleys: And you’re going to be the one who profits off of their lack of forethought and/or research? Shame on you.
If you actually cared about dogs, you would run a foster group or shelter for the breeds that you like, and work as hard as you could to find them loving permanent homes instead of breeding new puppies.