Post # 1
Once upon a time, plus size was a size 14 and above. Now depending on who you talk to it’s a size 6! WTF!? Anything about a size 6 is plus size? Are you freaking kidding me?
Articles like this http://fashionista.com/2010/11/crystal-renns-new-editorial-in-harpers-bazaar-fuels-the-is-she-still-plus-size-debate/
make me wonder what kind of body image are we promoting here. Crystal Renn is considered plus size because she’s a size 8!? ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME!? A size 8?!
Post # 3
No where in this article does it say that she is considered a plus size model at size 8.
Post # 4
plus size models are usually between size 6 and 8. yes, it’s annoying but i don’t think it’s a new thing. look at the models for lane bryant or old navy plus size. they’re tiny. i’m fairly certain that they have to pin the clothes on them because they’re much to small to fit into the 14 that is the smallest size available in ‘plus.’
just like bridal size 4 is real person size 0, model size 6 is real person size 12. go figure.
Post # 5
I really dislike that the “plus” models are eights. It makes me have little self-doubts when I see them, because I know that’s MY size.
Post # 6
She fluctuates slightly now but has pretty much landed at a FULL 8, sometimes a 10,”
a FULL 8? It’s like they are saying NO NO! She’s still a FULL 8, sometimes 10! She’s still plus size!
Post # 7
- Wedding: March 2010 - Calamigos Ranch
This shocks me. Plus size models should at least reflect average sizes.
I’m not familiar with the model in the article, but I think they are suggesting that since she has *lost* weight no one’s sure about whether she can be considered a plus size model anymore, not that an 8 is considered plus size. I’m pretty sure that Lane Bryant models are not size 6, though.
Post # 8
@artichokey:mmmm bridal size 4 is street size 0?? where does that come from? I’m street size 4 and my dress was a size 4 as well.
I do agree that it makes absolutely no sense that “plus size models” are size 8… I guess it’s just because they are bigger than all the models that are usually displayed. But it doesn’t help real plus size ladies figure out if the clothes will fit them well. ridiculous.
Post # 9
@egb: some bridal dress companies use vanity sizing, but most use true sizing like the model world does. Vanity sizing is made to make us feel better about the clothes we are buying (a size 6 today was probably a size 10 25 years ago). I believe companies like Maggie Sottero tend to use Vanity sizing but many higher end designers use true sizing.
Post # 10
I’m a size 8! I was a size 6 until I had my baby almost 6 months ago but now my hips are too wide and I’m still a little bigger in the stomach but I don’t think a size 8 should be considered plus size. Though considering most models are REALLY thin, sometimes scary skiny, I don’t think they should be looked down on because they are a little bigger than the other girls. I hate it when people talk bad about others because of their size. As long as they are comfortable with their weight/size I think we should be fine with it. I’m getting tired of surperficial people. I’m sure I can name something about them that would hit a nerve just like weight is for the poor size 10 people at work are talking about. If a size 8 is plus size then fine. I didn’t want to be a modle anyway.
Sorry…small rant. lol
Post # 11
Also, you have to remember that most models aren’t “average” size either so these plus size models being a size 8 makes sense. It doesn’t make it correct, but it does make sense. Most runway models are a size 2, but in vanity sizing they would be about a -2. A non plus size “average” woman is about a size 6 (in vanity sizing), which would be 4 sizes larger than a model. If a “plus size” model is a size 8, 4 sizes above that would be a 16.
Its a warped way of thinking about it, but logically it makes sense.
Post # 12
I agree that at least in the bridal world, sizes are often different between street wear and bridal wear. I wear a street size 4 or 6 and my dress was a size 12 and only required a few alterations.
Re: the article – it does pose an interesting question. If someone has always marketed themselves as a plus size model, what happens when they lose weight?
I guess I don’t think that models (no matter what size) show a “real” interpretation of how clothes fit. The models I see in clothes that I buy don’t look at all like I do. That seems to be the same whether it’s plus size or not.
Post # 13
This whole thing really annoys me and its not just the models. While that pisses me off because I’m a size 24 and the women modeling the clothes for girls like me are a size 10, the fact that some of the Bees on here who are a under a size 10 are considering themselves to be plus sized is insanity to me.
A few weeks ago a thread was started about something regarding being plus size. I honestly dont really remember what it was about but the OP was asking for suggestions on something because she considered herself “plus size” at a size 6-8 (again, I dont remember the specifics because just reading it kind of annoyed me so I never really got into the thread).
How in the hell could anyone ever consider themselves plus size at that size? It made me feel like shit about myself because I’m more than twice that size, so what would I be considered “super plus size”? I just shook my head and closed out of the thread because I couldn’t even handle reading anymore. Maybe its silly for me to feel that way but I can’t help it.
Post # 14
@Miss Tattoo: I read that as a Full 8 meaning she fills an 8, she couldn’t go to a 6, not she’s a Full Plus size 8. Especially since it says a Full 8 sometimes a 10. I was on the small side of the size dress I was in so we sized down, but I would be a Full of the down size, if that makes sense.
It took my hips about a year to go back to normal after my first, and 18 months to go back after my second! So there is still hope 🙂
Post # 15
@UpstateCait: I agree with you. I’m a 16/18 and it’s really annoying hearing a size 8 is now considered plus size in the model world.
Post # 16
Crystal Renn is awesome. Look up some earlier editorials and you will see her weight has bounced around ALOT. This is the smallest she has been in a long time which is what the article is discussing. If anything she has been vocal about how ridiculous model sizing has become and has argued that sample sizes should be an 8 (not 2/4) to encourage more diversely sized models. “Plus size” models are generally a size 10, nothing new. Its never made any sense.
She was bigger here.