Post # 1
Any RAW diet pet owners out there??
I need to start incorporating meats other than chicken but I have no clue where to start.
I understand they can eat pork, beef, rabbit, duck, anything really. But what I don’t know-literally- is what type of meat to buy. I don’t know much about different cuts, and if you can’t feed a weight-bearing bone from a large animal-I don’t know what cuts that pertains to.
Is a t-bone a weight bearing bone? Are lamb chops ok? Are pork ribs ok? (Probably not enough meat on them..)
Most meat at the store is prepackaged and doesn’t even have bone, so if I switch to pork, or beef, how are they getting their bone?
We’ve searched for local butchers and can’t find any, and none of the grocery stores sell the ‘other stuff’ (feet, necks, tongues etc).
Any help is greatly appreciated! I know I need to give them other protein sources I just don’t know where to go from here!
Post # 3
We used to feed our “kid” raw until it became too expensive for us. It has been a few years so I can’t remember the exacts but I think with his weight (he’s a German Shepherd) we were having to feed him over 1 lb of meat a day and it just wasn’t feasible. I wish we could have stuck with it because he really loved it.
Honestly, we fed A LOT of chicken and supplemented with livers, tripe, or sometimes pig ears (if we were able to find them). We were able to find the strangest animal parts at Walmart strangely enough LOL As for beef, I know we did beef ribs a couple times but the bones were really hard for him to get through surprisingly. Mostly we did ground beef if we did beef at all. I know there’s no bone but we fed it just to switch things up (ie: so he wouldn’t get bored with chicken). I want to say we also fed him some fish but can’t totally recall? We did do whole eggs (shell and all) from time to time as well.
Are you giving any yogurt or veggies? Our boy always loved the yogurt!
Post # 4
My girl eats a mixture of ground and whole raw. She gets ground in the morning, which is primarily turkey, some beef, veggies, organs, eggs etc. Then she gets whole for dinner, usually turkey necks or chicken legs/quarters. She also loves lamb knuckles, bison, cornish game hen, rabbit, beef marrow bones, beef ribs for a goodie etc. We buy most of her turkey necks and chicken legs/quarters in bulk from a raw food co-op and we get her ground from a breeder who ships it to us. We get the more exotic goodies at the farmers market 🙂
Raw was the best thing we ever did for our pets, they’re so much healthier!
Post # 5
If you scroll down on this page she has some pretty useful information. However I would highly suggest speaking to canine nutritionist once you’ve decided on a menu, to make sure it is fulfilling all of their nutritional requirements.
Her sample diet is for a cardigan corgi puppy.
Have you asked at your local deli counter if they can get the odd cuts of meat? Many times those are just considered waste and they won’t have them out in the actual store area.
Post # 6
I feed both my cats raw. I don’t know much about raw fed dogs (so can’t be of much help). Just wanted to give you a thumbs up for feeding your baby biologically approrpiate food!!
Post # 7
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We feed ours (cooked) human food. You have to be careful to balance nutrients, they can’t eat just meat. We incorporate yams, potatoes, green veggies, calcium supplement (in hte form of ground eggshells), and sometimes olive oil depending on the protein we use. If you PM me your email address I can send you the spreadsheet we use to calculate and balance nutrients and instructions.
And I second PP’s recommendations of talking to a vet–their little doggy bodies have different needs from humans and it’s important not to go too high or too low on certain amino acids and vitamins.
Post # 8
I disagree with PP on their opinion. Dogs and cats shouldn’t be eating cooked meats nor any veggies. They are obligate carnivores. However, to each their own.
OP, with cats, I get bone in meat from animals that are their appropriate sized prey in the wild. For cats, quail or cornish hen works best (chicken bones are slightly too thick). For your dog, I would gauge your dog’s breed/size and compare it to the size of prey they would hunt in the wild to give you a guideline of how thick a bone your baby could handle. HTH!
Post # 9
My mom feeds our pit a completely raw diet. He gets a total of 2lbs of raw chicken and beef a day. She swears by it – his coat is shiny, his bowel movements are healthy and regular. He loves it. She swears by green tripe.
She doesnt feed him an in-bone meats, but she does fill a bone with something delicious for him on occasion. He definitely loves that!
Post # 10
@kmarie719: I am so excited to see this post!! I actually deal with pet nutrition for a living (yes, this job exists) and its true that raw feeding is the ideal way to feed your furry kids! However, it’s crucial to feed a properly balanced raw diet so you don’t create any deficiencies in your pet. A commercially prepared raw diet is the safest and most convienent as it has all the important components of a proportionally accurate, species-appropriate diet — muscle meat, organ meat, ground bone, a small amount of vegis and grasses to mimic “hide” of a live prey meal and a vitamin & mineral pack to ensure its fully fortified. It’s difficult, time consuming and risky without expertise to prepare your own raw diets! Check out Bravo Raw Diet (very economical & ethical), Stella & Chewys, Primal or Natures Variety Instinct. A great resource for you to get more comfortable with correctly feeding a raw diet is http://www.Healthypets.mercola.com 🙂 not sure how big your dog is, but I have a 90 lb intact mawho and I use Bravo’s 10lb chubs. My cost is about $125-140 a month depending on what proteins I’m feeding. hope this helps!
Post # 11
@Westwood: Canine nutrionist?! Never heard of it, will have to look into it! Great overview too re: ratios. I was thinking each meal had to be protein, bone, organ, liver. But it seems like I need to maintain the ratio through the week, not through each meal. That’s really helpful. So I can feed chunks of pork with no bone one day, and say a drumstick the next?
We’ve so far asked at two grocery stores if we can have the scrap meat and both say they don’t sell it. I’ve just located a butcher about 20 minutes away that we are going to check out after we return from the honeymoon. We’ll be able to get things like rabbit, goat, lamb etc.
I often see on forums the recommendation of chicken quarters (?), chicken backs, chicken necks, etc. So far, we can’t find that stuff anywhere but I think the butcher will.
@mrsbruff2b: Thanks! Yes even though I know it’s bad that they’ve only been on chicken so far, it’s still better than the kibble (I got reemed out on a forum yesterday for having on fed chicken so far…it’s a process and I’m still learning!). We recently bought vennison heart? So will be giving that to them soon!
@sealevels: 2 lbs?! Wow thank goodness my pups are so small, 10# and 17# luckily they don’t need that much!
@Cosette5: Good lord that’s a lot of money! I don’t think we even spend that much on groceries for ourselves haha! Currently we are spending about 10-12 every two weeks but I think the cost will go up a bit once we start introducing other meats.
Post # 12
@kmarie719: Haha, and the way he looks at you after he’s eaten makes you think he hadn’t eaten at all LOL. He’s a medium sized dog and benefits from the 2lbs. 🙂
Yours can probably get away with maybe a pound, and you wouldn’t believe how cheap you can get meats from a local butcher! My mom keeps bulk meats in a separate freezer and it lasts her a long time. She says its cost effective, too.
Poor baby came from a kill shelter and he was being fed whatever they had (they try really hard not to euthanize any pets, and rely heavily on donations) so his stools were runny and inconsistent. Now they’re fine. Mom is so glad she found out about raw diets.
Post # 13
@kmarie719: it is a lot of money, but it will cost you more money in vet care f you aren’t vcare mindful of feeding correctly balanced food. My dog is also a very large (unneutered) dog who eats about 50 lbs of raw a month. Think about how much it would cost to buy that much meat that hasn’t been treated with antibiotics and hormones from a butcher.