Post # 16
Here is a slightly different twist- I am at a midwives practice colocated in a hospital with tubs, but they actually encourage patients not to use them for birthing. Their take on the research is that births have better outcomes for the mother and baby if the mother is “upright, mobile, and wet.” Obviously a woman is wet in a tub, but generally not upright (includes squatting or on all fours) or mobile. They recommend showers over tubs for this reason. That said they dont force a woman to labor in any particular position (their philosophy is the exact opposite) and the patients choice is very important to them- above all they feel the woman should listen to her body and follow her instincts. They also outline the benefits of water births as well when they counsel their patients. They do have the tubs for that reason and permit patients to make their own decision, though we do have to sign a consent form saying you understand you won’t be permitted to labor in a tub of there are any mitigating circumstances with the baby’s heart rate, etc.
I share this only to show the diversity of opinions among medical professionals, not espouse on view over another. And I have no idea what I will choose when in the moment- I may be more comfortable in the tub and that’s what matters. I like knowing my care provider’s position and having options. And amusingly, a friend of mine who is a midwife and did her fellowship with this same practice had no intention of delivering in a tub, but said when she got in there was no way anyone was getting her out haha!)
Post # 17
Another UK bee here. I’m planning on a water birth (I’m almost 38 weeks pregnant), I am aware though that nature may take a different path, but it’s what is on my birth plan. I feel relaxed and calm when in the water.
Post # 18
Not sure if this answers any of your question at all, but I had a doula for the birth of my daughter. I labored some in the tub & it helped a little with the pain & discomfort. I did start pushing while I was in the tub, but they made me get out shortly before my daugther was born, because I kept saying I needed to push. Apparently they don’t want you to actually have the baby in the water? It would make sense though because the baby has been surrounded by amniotic fluid, so wouldn’t being born into the water be the same concept of what they have been surrounded by for the past 9 months or so? (Nurse Bees???) I really liked being able to move freely & labor in the positions that were comfortable and/or beneficial for both me & my daughter!
I do know that the hospital I had her at, the nurses find the tub & all to be a pain to drag out & get set up. I can understand that & respect it, because it was quite a big blow up “tub” & it takes time to get it filled up.
For insurance purposes, the charge for the liner for the tub was $89. I’m sure somewhere in the midst of what we paid versus what insurance paid, we probably paid a couple bucks towards it, if that makes sense?
Post # 19
mallorinicole : I totally understand. But the “different perspective” you’re providing is ALWAYS posted in threads about out-of-hospital birth. Your opinion is still very valid and you are welcome to share it, but when you said you suggest the pregnant woman know CPR (I mean, everyone should know CPR) or have someone there that knows CPR (obviously the midwife would- very, very few people choose unassisted home births!) implies an out of hospital birth is risky. I just wanted to state that for low-risk pregnancies, birth center births and in-hospital births have the same outcomes. Knowing CPR is great, but not a requirement for the laboring women to mitigate her risk, just like a women in a hospital should not have to know CPR.
Post # 20
indiblue : I think when we see women delivering in the tub (like footage from Business of Being Born, etc) it is often women who have given birth before as they usually have a much shorter second stage of labor than first time moms and can push in a more relaxed posture!
Post # 21
I’m a US Bee. I had Dear Daughter the end of December with a midwife group. The hospital I delivered at had 1 tub that could be used for labor or birth. I was lucky enough to get the room with the tub and had all intentions of using it. During labor I got into such a rhythm on the yoga ball that I was scared to get off and try something different. They kept the tub full and warm for me in case I changed my mind. During one of my cervical checks I was 8cm and my midwife told me if you want to use the tub now is the time to get in. She also said that when it’s a water birth the baby goes directly under the warmer and then to dad so it would delay skin to skin. After hearing that I opted not to use the tub and just stay on my yoga ball. When it was time to push the midwife encouraged me to push on hands and knees and I felt like that was the best choice. Even though I didn’t get to use the tub as I had planned and wanted I had an amazing labor and delivery and wouldn’t have changed a thing! Good luck !
Post # 22
I think mallorinicole makes some very valid points. I wouldn’t want to be away from the hospital if, God forbid, something went wrong. My hospital didn’t allow water births and frankly, my labor progressed so quickly there would have been no time for it anyway!
Side note: Now that I’ve had a baby and have seen just how messy it really is (OMG, so much blood!) I just have to wonder – do you really want to be sitting in all that when the baby comes out? I’m not trying to be gross – it’s a sincere question. I guess I just never realized before I had a baby just how much “stuff” there was. Personally I’m glad it was in a bucket below me instead of floating next to me–just sayin!
Post # 23
MrsAKSkier : so true, you STMs know what you are doing! In my childbirth class with my doula they kept pointing out in videos when the mother was a STM- it was so great to see how calm and in tuned with their bodies they were!
Post # 24
indiblue : Oh man, I hope so! I pushed more than 3 hours last time, which was so, so hard. I have a few friends that pushed 45 minutes or less for their first! Some just for a few minutes! Gah! You just never know…
Post # 25
- Wedding: June 2014 - DD born 2015 DS born 2017
emsie : Not a hospital but a birthing centre. There were doctors and nurses just no pain relief or operating theatre. Honestly I wasn’t satisfied, the staff would chang and didn’t support me as much as I needed, it was basically just my husband and I alone labouring and they’d come in for checks here and there. I didn’t want an IV or a belt to measure the heartbeat but they insisted and that limited my movement. I also didn’t get in the tub until 10cm because they didn’t believe I was so far along.
Anyway this time I’m having a home waterbirth. The water part was AMAZING totally recommend, just didn’t like being in a medical environment. I’ll have one midwife this time whom I’ll get to know personally and in my own home, so it’ll be a warm supportive experience this time I’m sure!! Can’t wait!